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Posted: 2/28/2009 2:26:27 PM EDT
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I assume bump firing is when you get your finger bouncing just right and you get the full auto effect. They sell this thing at our local gun shows (here in WA) that has a spring that hits against your finger that mounts on your trigger guard. It makes the same effect. Your finger bounces between the spring and trigger. More of a gimmick I think. I can sorta get my Ruger p-94 pistol to do the same thing if I limp rist it and hold my finger kinda loose. I will get a quick bang, bang, bang, bang for about 4-5 rounds. No accuracy at all what so ever.
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When I discovered it, had to try it. it sounds great...for us non-full-auto unfortunates, it is just like...well, nothing - it is a wholly comforting sound - it sounds right. I was half convinced that the 5.56 round was designed with acoustics in mind.
Then I tried it with my Glock (3-ish pound Vanek trigger helps). I timed my Sig556 bump shooting - 30 rd mag in .10-second intervals = 600 round per minute fire rate, not bad. Law enforcement DID show up...and this was on private property, relatively spaced out land (1/2 farms, 1/2 res, but nothing less than 10 acres res). A neighbor had called, complaining about the noise, officer shows up, my friend (his property) and I put guns open-action unloaded on our table (we had all sort of targets and barricades set up, were doing 9mm pistol shooting only when LEO came). We walked up to his car slowly, hands open and out, casually, stopped about 30 feet away, turned so he could see holsters and hands empty. Greetings, he immediately says he was checking out shooting reported by neighbor who said it had been goin on for days (it had), and that she thought she heard full-auto sometimes. After informing him (as required) that I had a CPL and was unarmed, and where the guns were (just out of consideration, b/c I knew this was going to be a reasonable and quick encounter), stated we had been shooting, offered him a look at anything he wanted, he walked out to the range, looked at the table with the unloaded open actioned guns, from 10-15 feet away, went up to the deck on the back of my friend's place (by invite). I had my Sig556 siting there, unloaded, action open, pointed safely (nothing in between gun and targets) downrange , set up on a bipod. Welcomed the officer to check it out, he declined, said we were within our rights, checked out ID's (visual only), said have a nice day, enjoy shooting. young guy, friendly enough, reasonable enough. anyway - there's my bumpshooting story. There is a guy out there on YouTube and has his own site (poormansmachingegun.com, IIRC) who uses a rubber band,m and claims that there is nothing illegal about that - has some indication in a letter or something that it is not considered a trigger device. He is able to keep 30 rounds on target at (at least ) short distances, as he can shoulder the rifle and empty the mags. Would recommend looking into either situation, but I don't worry at all about bump shooting w/o rubber band. I rarely do it anyway, just a nice novelty to know how to do. I am no lawyer, can't tell you the law, but that's been my experience. |
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I assume bump firing is when you get your finger bouncing just right and you get the full auto effect. They sell this thing at our local gun shows (here in WA) that has a spring that hits against your finger that mounts on your trigger guard. It makes the same effect. Your finger bounces between the spring and trigger. More of a gimmick I think. I can sorta get my Ruger p-94 pistol to do the same thing if I limp rist it and hold my finger kinda loose. I will get a quick bang, bang, bang, bang for about 4-5 rounds. No accuracy at all what so ever. From what I understand that mechanism would make it an illlegal full-auto weapon. I've heard of people using a rubber band that is wrapped around the magwell then the trigger for the same effect. This is also a modification making it a no-no in the eyes of BIG BROTHA. Not worth it in my opinion, especially after what happened to that guy here in Wisconsin. |
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This guy made a web site devoted to the rubber band idea, and you can read about the legality of bump firing. http://www.poormansmachinegun.com/ I bump fire all the time just for shits and giggles. Unloading a beta mag is awesome. Once a neighbor called the cops (we never got along with him and he had a bug up his ass that day) by the time the cops got there they seemed somewhat annoyed that they were called out. (I live in the middle of nowhere) Once we got talking to the cops though they were awesome, they were handling everything with huge grins, loving the black rifles. Lots of "man I need one of these" type comments, joking that they left finger prints on everything. Probably pissed the neighbor off. All in all it was one of the best gun experiences I've had, and no one has ever called the cops since. |
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This has only been discussed eleventy billion times. A Google search of "Bump firing" legality produces 3,320 results. Great constructive input. I believe so, it is great towards developing forum etiquette, of which one of the foremost rules is to not post something whose number of times posted is measured in multiples of one hundred. 
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