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2/2/2009 11:34:18 AM EDT
My stock trigger needs to go.  I've been looking at the Timney, Chip McCormick, and JP drop in aftermarket module units.  Which of these is a "better" trigger as far as function and reliability?  They're about the same in price from what I've seen.  I'm looking for a 3-4# SINGLE STAGE pull.  I despise two stage triggers.
2/2/2009 11:37:54 AM EDT
[#1]
Send your trigger to Bill Springfield. He will save you a lot of money.
2/2/2009 11:39:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Send your trigger to Bill Springfield. He will save you a lot of money.


I only have one AR, and I go to the range about every other day.  I would cry if I was without a functional AR, so that option might be out the window.  
2/2/2009 11:41:51 AM EDT
[#3]
Buy another single stage trigger and send it to him, or buy one directly from him.
2/2/2009 12:57:59 PM EDT
[#4]
I have the CMC trigger module- I have never tried any of the others, so I can't comment on comparisons.
The CMC is in my Bushmaster M4, and it is a major improvement in my range scores. It's very smooth and crisp, and more of a target trigger
over the standard Bushy trigger. I don't know what the # is, but I would guess about 4lbs. If your going to use the AR as a duty gun, I would
say stick with the std issue piece. But, it sounds like you're a target shooter, so the CMC would be a good addition.
2/2/2009 1:39:43 PM EDT
[#5]
I have 3 timneys..they are great
2/2/2009 3:40:42 PM EDT
[#6]
What do you guys think of the Jard triggers?  Seem pretty nice for the price.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1466&title=AR-15%20AR%20CUSTOM%20TRIGGER%20KIT

2/2/2009 9:16:26 PM EDT
[#7]
I purchased a Timney 3 lb. so I can keep the factory FCG as a spare.  Easy to install, no creep, and functions perfectly.
2/2/2009 9:30:46 PM EDT
[#8]
A timney #3 user here. I love the single stage and no creep and also the 2 floor plate screws which prevents the trigger pins from walking/rotating

No failure to ignite after 400 rounds of various Remington and Federal XM193s

I previously had JP yellow springs with stock dpms LPK trigger and would get around 2 failure to ignites when shooting XM193s from the same case.
2/2/2009 9:37:30 PM EDT
[#9]
CMCs are great, I've never had a problem. JP now has a drop in unit, kind of pricey though. I would suggest JPs non- drop in unit for its cost to quality ratio. Don't let putting a trigger in scare you (if that is the issue) the JP triggers basically drop right in. I didn't have to do anything but slide on two springs. Thats not much more work than installing two pins for a drop in.
2/3/2009 4:21:16 AM EDT
[#10]
+ 1 for bill springfield
he will have it back in a week
2/3/2009 6:46:36 AM EDT
[#11]
Had my first one done by Bill Springfield. Did a AMAZING job on a stock DPMS trigger group. Nice smooth, light pull, clean break.
2/3/2009 6:59:54 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Send your trigger to Bill Springfield. He will save you a lot of money.


http://www.triggerwork.net/arparts.html

Wow you're not kidding.  good prices.  I never heard of him b/f this thread.  I'm w/ the OP, not a big fan of the two stage trigger although my mil surp deer rifle has it.
2/3/2009 8:34:30 AM EDT
[#13]
I have a 4LB Skeleton Timney. It is one NASTY trigger! Getting ready to order one for my AR10.
2/3/2009 6:51:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
What do you guys think of the Jard triggers?  Seem pretty nice for the price.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1466&title=AR-15%20AR%20CUSTOM%20TRIGGER%20KIT



Jards work great but are very sensitive to adjustments.  Not tried their drop-in version.  IMHO the best drop-in is the Rock River Arms National Match 2-stage.

2/3/2009 6:55:39 PM EDT
[#15]
I've heard good things about the Geissele SSA.  I have a couple on backorder and expect to receive them at some point in the future, probably before my ARs are completely worn out.
2/4/2009 4:05:54 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What do you guys think of the Jard triggers?  Seem pretty nice for the price.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1466&title=AR-15%20AR%20CUSTOM%20TRIGGER%20KIT



Jards work great but are very sensitive to adjustments.  Not tried their drop-in version.  IMHO the best drop-in is the Rock River Arms National Match 2-stage.



I may just get the non-adjustable JARD.  And, as I said in the original post, I can't stand 2 stage triggers.
2/4/2009 5:33:06 AM EDT
[#17]
I'm telling you JP single stage non-drop in. They are even adjustable for take up and overtravel IF you want to do that. You can also buy different spring kit from 3.5-4.5 from them for $9.00.  Good price, and in stock NOW through JP if you need a small pin which most people do (.154). I am telling you installing a trigger, at least the JP takes no more skill that a drop in. Plus, you don't have to waste all that $ just because it is an enclosed unit. JP does have a drop in unit though. They make good shit, seriously.
2/4/2009 6:25:38 AM EDT
[#18]
I've got nothing but good things to say about the Chip McCormick single stage trigger. At around a 3.5 pound pull, it is perfect for target shooting, which is what I do the most. That being said, I'm not sure I would want that light of a trigger on a weapon I choose to use for self defense. Some might say "Why not go with an adjustable trigger?", but IMHO an adjustable trigger is just one more thing tthat can possibly go wrong on a weapon, and I'm not willing to take that chance.
2/4/2009 8:14:07 AM EDT
[#19]
Yea, I have that CmC and it is nice. I just don't see what would go wrong on the JP adjustable. The adjustment mechanism is simply two hex screws, one in front, one in back of the trigger 'base'. I'm almost positive even if you took these out it would function just fine. I have no problems with drop-ins, they are usually nice, and REALLY handy if you do a lot parts swapping. But for the longest time I was afraid of installing a trigger group, especially and adjustable one, but it really is no big deal at all. They have detailed instructions as well, but the JP it just dropped right in. I recently got a Geissele 2-stage NM tigger, and it took less than an hour to get working just how I wanted it. This is about as precise as a trigger can get and it was still pretty easy to install, just took a bit more time. I feel good knowing that I can install anything on an AR-15 now just by memory and not have to be overwhelmed when it comes to a trigger group etc. I am not trying to imply that the original poster or anyone else in here is scared of non drop-in units, just telling my experience.
2/4/2009 8:17:14 AM EDT
[#20]
Thanks for all the input guys.  First off, I'm pretty sure CMC doesn't make AR triggers anymore.

Anyway, I think I'm going to order a 3lb trigger from Bill Springfield.  It's only $89, and I don't have to be without a gun for any period of time.  It's a win-win ;)
2/4/2009 6:33:24 PM EDT
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