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1/5/2009 7:55:03 PM EDT
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Gun Law Update

by Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America
Jan. 5, 2008


1. Officials stocking up on AR-15-style long guns
2. Preliminary gun ban list revealed



1. S&W sales


With bans on AR-15 and AR-15-styled rifles to the public expected under the
Obama administration (see gun-ban lists below), Smith and Wesson has just
announced expansion of that market, with the sale of 275 of its M&P15
rifles to the Chicago police department. http://tinyurl.com/742qre

Chicago, president-elect Obama's home town, has virtual bans on handguns
and strict repressive limits on long guns, but police are excluded and
criminals blithely ignore the provisions.

The M&P15 strongly resembles the AR-15, a high quality, semi automatic long
gun used by the U.S. military and the public for decades. What the Chicago
police expect to do with 275 of the guns, vilified as assault weapons by
the lamestream media, was undisclosed. Assault, it has been noted, is a
type of behavior, not a type of hardware.

In other news, the Minnesota State Patrol has purchased 90 of the
high-quality M&P15 firearms, which retail for more than $1,000 each.

In still other news, actor David Spade donated $100,000 to the Phoenix
police department, to buy 50 new AR-15 rifles made by Colt, an S&W
competitor. Spade was apparently moved by a "news" broadcast that said
Phoenix officers had to buy their own rifles due to lack of funding, and he
wanted to help them out.








2. Gun-ban list proposed


Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the
Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush
administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR
1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Bradys
plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
I'm working on getting that news out asap after these ban lists, probably
be ready in the next few days. It's horrific. They're going after the
courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out
effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment. See what 250 of your peers
thought during our recent Bill of Rights Day event at the Wrigley Mansion
in Phoenix: http://www.gunlaws.com/BOR-Day-2008-Report.htm




The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):


Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15,
AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1;

AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR; AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or
Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC, Hi-Point Carbine,
HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper
Rifle (Galatz).



Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA, TEC-9, TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.



Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.



Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has (i) a
folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a pistol grip
(which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below), (iv) a
forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, and has (i) a second pistol grip, (ii) a threaded barrel, (iii) a
barrel shroud or (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the
pistol grip, and (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can
accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii) a
pistol grip (see definition below), (iii) the ability to accept a
detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.




Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use,
or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not
particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney
General." Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation
hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the
position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable
presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military
or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for
sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly
suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for
use in a sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

That presumption can be challenged only by suing the federal government
over each firearm it decides to ban, in a court it runs with a judge it
pays. This virtually dismisses the principles of the Second Amendment.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose –– is
that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights
infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever,
invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further
their cause of disarming the innocent.

If these near-total bans aren't enough, the most dangerous part may be the
phrase "pistol grip" because: "The term 'pistol grip' means a grip, a
thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip."
In other words, any semi-auto long gun with a grip (that's ALL semi-auto
long guns) would be banned under the existing proposal. It's not clear what
they hope to achieve by deceptively banning guns with grips instead of just
calling to ban the guns –– even an idjit can tell it's the same thing.

I didn't cover here all the magazine bans, transfer bans, dealer
record-keeping and centralized reporting, and a host of nuisance details ––
there will be time enough for that when the new lists are released soon:
"As soon as President-elect Obama is inaugurated and the 111th Congress is
sworn in," according to Ms. Brady. Congress is set to be sworn in on Jan.
6, Inauguration Day is Jan. 20.

No one expects the new proposal to be less abusive than the current one
supported by the party of the Democrats. Remember –– these bans were
proposed when the congressional anti-rights crowd had no chance of success.
Now they are ready to run wild, or according to Sarah herself, "I have
never been so confident." The "news" media has failed to report on any of
this, preferring instead to blare that the incoming president supports the
Second Amendment and commonsense (sic) laws.

To see the whole bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov and search for HR 1022,
(switch to the 110th Congress if the 111th has begun).

The excellent Firearms Coalition started by the late Neal Knox and now run
by his family members makes these important points about the upcoming
Judiciary hearings for AG nominee Holder:

"The Democrat members of the Judiciary Committee are all sworn enemies to
the Second Amendment and are unlikely to be swayed at all by any firearms
related arguments, but might hesitate to confirm based on Holder's
participation in the pardons of 16 Puerto Rican terrorists and billionaire
financier and arms merchant Marc Rich [and perhaps the Elian Gonzalez
abduction by federal agents Holder authorized]. Any letters to Democrats
should focus on those issues.

"On the Republican side, Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican on the
committee has never been a friend to gun rights, but he owes his reelection
to NRA support and has expressed concern over the pardon issues. Among the
other Republicans, most are relatively reliable votes, but only Coburn has
routinely taken a leadership role on Second Amendment matters. All of them
need to be pressed hard to do everything they can to block the appointment.

"For more information about Eric Holder and why his appointment must be
fought tooth and nail, go to our web site at http://www.FirearmsCoalition.org."



Respectfully submitted,
Alan Korwin, Author
Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm


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1/5/2009 8:13:57 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTM...

and,

am I wrong in finding it just a tad bit ironic that one of the proposed "banned" guns is the hi-point carbine, a rifle designed amidst the first ban to specifically not possess any of the banned features?
1/5/2009 8:18:23 PM EDT
[#2]
Definitely a scary thought....
1/5/2009 8:19:14 PM EDT
[#3]
in before the move.

and that's
1/5/2009 8:45:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Cock. Suckers. ARghhhhh.
1/5/2009 8:57:01 PM EDT
[#5]
So by that definition, a Rem 700 bolt action rifle would be verboten because Mil and LE snipers use it?  Niiiice!
1/5/2009 9:04:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Fuck that
1/5/2009 9:05:20 PM EDT
[#7]
nothing new...
1/5/2009 9:44:02 PM EDT
[#8]

David Spade is now awesome.
1/5/2009 9:53:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
nothing new...


exactly, this is the 2007 proposed ban, the 2008 proposed ban is even worse, and no reason to believe the 2009 wont be worse than that
1/5/2009 11:50:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Gun Bans are what happens when the people elect Democrats.  That's why they covered it up and didn't even mention guns.  They wanted to make sure they won the vote first.



1/5/2009 11:55:08 PM EDT
[#11]
What's that noise?
1/6/2009 12:21:50 AM EDT
[#12]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=349914
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