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12/29/2008 4:50:18 PM EDT
where do i measure from to figure out a barrel length?  does a fixed flash hider look any different than a removable one?
12/29/2008 4:55:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but measure from bolt face to muzzle.

Drop a dowel rod down the barrel and have it stop on the bolt.  Mark the portion protruding from the muzzle with a piece of tape and then measure that to get your overall length.

A pin and weld job us usually slightly visible.  Try checking the 6 and 12 o'clock positions for a slight discoloration/mark where the weld was dremeled flat and painted/parkerized over.
12/29/2008 4:56:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Closed bolt face to end of muzzle crown for removeable FH & to end of muzzle device for a perm attached FH.
12/29/2008 4:56:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
where do i measure from to figure out a barrel length?  does a fixed flash hider look any different than a removable one?


measure barrel length as follows



make sure gun is unloaded

bolt closed

insert dowel(a cleaning rod will work) into bore until it bottoms on the bolt face

mark dowel at muzzle

remove dowel and measure from bolt face to mark



usually you will see a small weld mark, or signs of heating on a permed hider, but not always, some are pressed on, etc.

12/29/2008 5:05:08 PM EDT
[#4]
There is a good chance if the barrel + muzzle device is over 16" its not pinned in place...The barrel is 16" and that's all that matters.

I don't see a reason to pin a device on a 16"...only if its under 16".
12/29/2008 6:13:09 PM EDT
[#5]
saw this once before

7 asltrfl :: 9/22/2008 3:48:03 PM EST

Using a rod to stick down the barrel and touch the bolt face is not an exact measurement. The proper way to do it would be to remove the barrel from the upper receiver, then remove the barrel extension, then measure externally with a high quality measuring device. This is how it would be used against you in court. Who really wants to remove their barrel extension, what a pain in the arse. You need to make sure that the barrel is just OVER 16" to cover your ass with BATF, use the extended flash hider, or washers if you so choose. And yes, blind pinning is legal and easy to do if you have some shop experience.

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