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12/23/2008 11:53:44 AM EDT
I am having trouble keeping my Jewell in tune.  Reliability has caused me two missed opportunities while hunting/calling coyotes. Very frustrating.

My trigger was installed professionally by John Noveske, of Noveske Rifleworks, in 2005. I talked to him this morning and he said they stopped selling/installing them two years ago after he was experiencing the same issues.

Soooo...

What will it be?

A Geiselle?  A Timney?

I don't particularly like the price fixing strategy of the Geiselle company.

The Timney looks like a pretty nice setup.  Has anyone used one yet?

http://www.timneytriggers.com/sunshop/catalog/AR-14-1.html

http://www.timneytriggers.com/sunshop/images/products/AR-10%20website%20image.jpg

First hand experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


P.S. This is the rig it is going in:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/phi376/CertainDeath-1.jpg
12/23/2008 12:03:10 PM EDT
[#1]
Just recently put a Timney 4# in my AR and so far I love it.Easy to install,crisp and no creep.Good luck.
12/23/2008 12:08:29 PM EDT
[#2]
I've got a 3# in my S&W and it's worth every penny! Talk to Denny, he'll treat you right.
12/23/2008 12:16:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Geiselle for the ultimate.

Timney for ease of install.
12/23/2008 12:21:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the responses.



I forgot to mention that a 3 lb trigger would be my upper limit.  Reason being, I still like to do some range work/load development with the bigger 6.5-20x50mm Conquest and nice crisp light trigger with little creep and a consistent let-off is important.  But for most hunting (besides shooting prairie dogs & ground squirrels) the rifle wears a 3-9X50mm Conquest.



Thanks again.
12/23/2008 12:24:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Geiselle for the ultimate.

Timney for ease of install.


Sorta of agree.  They are two seperate beasts all together.
If you want a two stage go with the Geiselle.  
If you want a single stage go with the  Timney.  

I had a Timney and I loved it.  But I sold it for a two stage since this is my precision rig.  Both are great triggers and I don't think you'll go wrong with either.
12/23/2008 12:27:34 PM EDT
[#6]
My Timneys have both developed a problem with failing to reset properly. That problem is fixable with adjustment, but I don't know if or when it will reappear.

The Timney is without a doubt the nicest feeling single stage I've tried, but I can't consider it completely reliable. I'd go with the Geissele if I were you, especially considering what caused you to look into a change.
12/23/2008 3:51:41 PM EDT
[#7]
My have a Timeny 3 lb. I couldn't imagine a single stage shooting any better.  The break is so crisp, with almost no take-up.

If you use other AR's with different/more heavy triggers I would recommend getting the skeleton version. The skeleton version is notably more "sharp" to the touch around the edges. It would be less likely that you pull the trigger prematurely because of "muscle memory" from other more familiar triggers.


Good luck with either. I wish I could comment on the Geiselle. I just don't know.


12/23/2008 4:16:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Price fixing???
12/23/2008 4:38:27 PM EDT
[#9]
There are some great comments and experience on here.  Thanks.  I really appreciate it!

Price Fixing-  It is my understanding that the owners of Geiselle triggers came down on Fulton Armory at the Camp Perry shoot for having a "sale" on their triggers.  After a short period of discounted sales, they were forced to mark them back up to $279.

That's just what I heard second-hand.
12/23/2008 4:49:46 PM EDT
[#10]
I just came back from the range with my Timney 3# pull trigger. If there is something better than this I can't imagine how. It worked beautifully.
12/23/2008 4:56:06 PM EDT
[#11]
The Geissele has been tested from 150,000 to 250,000 (if I recall correctly) cycles.

Hammer and trigger springs must be changed at around 9,000 rounds as pre-emptive maintenance.
12/23/2008 4:56:10 PM EDT
[#12]
I have both a Jewel 2-stage and a Timney.  I have had no problems with my Jewel and have had it in my Bushmaster since 2005.  But you definitely cannot go wrong with the Timney.
12/23/2008 7:44:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Running my Jewell since 196 and thousands of cycles... had to raise the return lever once, just recently.



Shoot with a buddy with the $279 trigger... His is cleaner!
12/24/2008 6:30:14 AM EDT
[#14]
I have a Geiselle and a Timney in use in different rifles now.  The Timney had the best feel of any trigger I had ever used, until I got the Geiselle.  I do not think you can go wrong with either choice.  The Timney costs a little less and is easier to install.  The Geiselle National Match 2-stage has more user adjustments available (weight of each stage, travel length).  If cost does not matter, go with the Geiselle. Otherwise purchase the Timney and you will have a great trigger.
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