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12/17/2008 5:09:44 PM EDT
Is anyone using one of these(carbine)? I have been looking to buy one on EE, and the only ones I see are the drop-ins. Are they not popular, or are they so good nobody is selling them? I see all the others(LaRue, Daniel Defense, etc) but have not seen the RAS FF. They are about the same price as the other big companies, so that shouldn't be a big factor.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
12/17/2008 5:10:54 PM EDT
[#1]
A good, classic rail.
12/17/2008 5:12:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Its considered the "standard" in FF rails.
12/17/2008 11:57:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Have 2 of them
1 in carbine length and one midlength.
Got both on the EE....they show up once in a while.

12/18/2008 12:29:26 AM EDT
[#4]
KAC is awesome
12/18/2008 3:16:30 AM EDT
[#5]
DD and Larue do the same thing, mount the same way, are less likely to come loose (yes I had a FF RAS come loose), weighl ess, and cost less.  Why buy a KAC FF RAS?  I dont have a reason you would choose it over DD or Larue.  Also my carbine KAC FF RAS was the worst fit with KAC panels I ever had and they would rattle horribly... weird huh?
12/18/2008 4:06:40 AM EDT
[#7]


Why did you blur the KAC part number on the rail? I am curious because there seems to be quite a few numbers out there for the same carbine FF rail.

For the OP, I have one and I love it, LaRue does have the advantage of having the sling swivel sockets built in.
12/18/2008 4:59:34 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:


Why did you blur the KAC part number on the rail? I am curious because there seems to be quite a few numbers out there for the same carbine FF rail.

For the OP, I have one and I love it, LaRue does have the advantage of having the sling swivel sockets built in.


i have both of larue and KAC rail~ i love them both~~ by the way, don't know i should cover the number or not, so i just did
12/18/2008 5:11:42 AM EDT
[#9]
if you can get it for cheap with the kit (panels/vfg/etc), i'd say go for it... i picked up an M4 RAS (slightly used) and an M5 RAS (new)  on the EE for around $200 a piece complete.

newer FF designs like the LT have advantages such as integral QD swivel attachment points, an anti rotational device, and all weigh less...
12/18/2008 5:36:39 AM EDT
[#10]
I don't know what it would take to mount a side sling swivel on one
but they are still one of the best looking rails on a CAR. From the pics
the top or dorsal rail doesn't sit as high as a L T or DD.
12/18/2008 9:00:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Well I have a Daniel Defense and a LaRue and they are both very good. I was wanting something different. I think the Knights is the best looking rail, and hopefully can find one sooner or later.
Are they really that much heavier? They sure don't look like they are any heavier than a LaRue.
12/18/2008 10:39:36 AM EDT
[#12]
This may be kind of interesting as far as the KAC free float rifle length rail. I have KAC non free floats on my carbines and M16a4 clone. When I was building my USMC SAM-R clone, which uses the KAC FF, I had a lot of correspondence with retired CWO5 Ken Davis, former head of the USMC Precision Weapons Section at Quantico, Va. He was one of the developers of the SAM-R. He advised me to use Larue rails. Here is a portion of one of his emails:

" As I‘d mentioned before, we went with the KAC RAS system because it was all that was available at the time.  This was a monumental mistake because we had to modify the rail system to keep it from rotating under torque from the sling and shooter.  See picture Rifle 001, there is a set screw installed at six o’clock on the hand guard ring to keep it from rotating. "

Just food for thought.


12/18/2008 11:43:22 AM EDT
[#13]
I have a rifle FF RAS, and it's great! It's on a rifle that used to sport a non-FF RAS. I bought it because it is of known quality. I like the LaRue/ DD rails, but no one had them in stock anyway at the time. I got it from KAC's web store for $319.
12/18/2008 1:05:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
This may be kind of interesting as far as the KAC free float rifle length rail. I have KAC non free floats on my carbines and M16a4 clone. When I was building my USMC SAM-R clone, which uses the KAC FF, I had a lot of correspondence with retired CWO5 Ken Davis, former head of the USMC Precision Weapons Section at Quantico, Va. He was one of the developers of the SAM-R. He advised me to use Larue rails. Here is a portion of one of his emails:

" As I‘d mentioned before, we went with the KAC RAS system because it was all that was available at the time.  This was a monumental mistake because we had to modify the rail system to keep it from rotating under torque from the sling and shooter.  See picture Rifle 001, there is a set screw installed at six o’clock on the hand guard ring to keep it from rotating. "

Just food for thought.





Well the SAM-R was developed almost 10 years ago. I wonder if KAC has improved on the design any?
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