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9/1/2008 4:35:42 PM EDT
i cant find any instructions anywhere on how to replace the gas ring on the bolt. can anyone point me in the right direction?
9/1/2008 4:48:36 PM EDT
[#1]
one piece ring

Don't waste your time, just by one of these.
9/1/2008 4:51:47 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
one piece ring

Don't waste your time, just by one of these.


Dont waste your money.  These are worthless and cause more problems then they solve, which is none since there is nothing wrong with the standard gas rings.
9/1/2008 5:01:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Im going to keep out of the one piece debate that is forming and give you the instructions you asked for.

Look in the section about disassembly of the bolt.

www.ar15.com/content/manuals/TM9-1005-319-23.pdf
9/1/2008 5:10:32 PM EDT
[#4]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=7&t=387013
9/1/2008 5:11:05 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
one piece ring

Don't waste your time, just by one of these.


OMG stay away from those rings like a ugly girl with syphilis.  A while ago I thought it would be cool to try one out and my gun did not like it at all.  It took me a week and a lot of headache to figure out why my gun was acting up.  After I figured it out I went back to the OEM ring and never looked back.
9/1/2008 5:12:57 PM EDT
[#6]
I've got about 2K through a Smith M&P-15 with a Mcfarland one-piece ring that I put in on a whim...no problems whatsoever.  I guess others have had issues...I haven't.

I've found the easiest way to take them off is with a dental pick or needlenose pliers...you're gonna fuck 'em up anyway, might as well get them off the quickest easiest way possible.

9/5/2008 2:03:53 PM EDT
[#7]
after the new rings are on is it normal for the bolt to fit alot more snugly into the carrier? and should the rings move at all?
9/5/2008 2:10:20 PM EDT
[#8]
New rings will probably be tighter than of course worn out rings. And the rings should be free to rotate around the bolt ring groove. Be sure to lube the rings heavily, as part of you lube procedure.
9/5/2008 2:30:08 PM EDT
[#9]
i know they should be able to rotate around the bolt but my new ones move side to side a little and after i put them on the bolt fits alot more snugly into the carrier it dosent move as freely as before
9/5/2008 2:44:45 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
i know they should be able to rotate around the bolt but my new ones move side to side a little and after i put them on the bolt fits alot more snugly into the carrier it dosent move as freely as before


Normal.

Just keep them lubed up.
9/6/2008 11:59:56 AM EDT
[#11]
cool...thats for the help guys
9/6/2008 11:17:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Some folks really get wrapped around the axle.

The one piece (McFarland) ring is an interesting item.  Yes, it probably is a solution looking for a problem.  I generally concur, that the standard rings work just fine.  

Having said that, I have a couple of high mileage ARs that I have put the one piece ring in and it has generally worked well. I expect they will substantially outlast the standard rings.

I have experienced a problem that seems to be related to the finish quality of the Carrier bore.  That is, I have one carrier that works fine with the standard rings.  However, when the one piece ring is on the bolt, the bolt is very stiff in the carrier.  When the carrier group is cleaned and lubed, it will function for 5 to 7 rounds in the rifle and then begin short stroking.  A quick relube thru the two holes in the carrier will get another 5 to 7 round before it starts short stroking again.................go figure.  

Well, as I said, it is isolated to that one carrier.  So that one keeps the standard military type rings.
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