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Posted: 7/3/2008 9:33:38 AM EDT
| hello everyone, im new to the ar 15 world and would like a few suggestions on what type of ar 15 to start out on. i would like the rifle to be primarily for defense, as i have accumulated many sporting arms but no designed specifuically for that purpose. I have limited my search down to two guns, a smith and wesson m and p 15 with removable carry handle adjustable stock , and a bushmaster with an adjustable stock and a burris red dot sight for optics, there are no backup sights on this one though. both are carbines with 16 inch barrels , however the bushmaster is roughly 250 dollars more than the smith and wesson. smitth and wesson is $990 the bushmaster is about $1250. thanks for reading this im looking forward to the replies. |
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Sounds like a Bushmaster "optics read carbine" Stupid idea, you want irons on a self defense AR. I'd skip the burris red dot, later on get an aimpoint. The burris is a korean doo dad that sells for about $ 150 as the S.P.O.T. They aren't terrible or anything, but not quality gear either. |
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I have both of them and will have to say that the S&W M&P 15T is my go to raffle.It could be me,but the S&W's fit and finish is better and it's a better shooter(for me anyway) My pick would also be the S&W because of price difference.With the extra funds you can start to customize to your liking.IMO Good Luck and Welcome to the Madness. Savageman |
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I agree on the Aimpoint and Irons as stated above. A comp ML2 will be fine for home defense or any other use not requiring magnification or NVDs, but get comfortable with iron sights first Buying low quality optic for self defense is not a good way to go. I would also get something with a 1/7 rifling ratio so you can run the heavier 75-77 grain cartridge. like the Hornady TAP-FPD personal defense ammunition I would choose to go with a Colt LE carbine for quality control reasons, but Bushmaster and S&W aren't terrible. You will find this the subject of much debate, and it has all been said before, so I'll let you use the search button for that topic. Just my two cents. |
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