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3/20/2008 7:49:00 PM EDT
Hi everybody, kinda new to the forum.  I am looking to purchase my first ar15 m4 rifle this weekend.  I have it narrowed down between Armalite, Bushmaster, and Stag Arms.  I am going to get just the standard m4 with sliding stock and removable carry handle and standard front sight.  If you could please help me between the three.

Thanks!!
3/20/2008 7:50:45 PM EDT
[#1]
edit your post and add a poll.

I think you'll be happy with a Stag.
3/20/2008 7:52:34 PM EDT
[#2]
kinda a stupid question but how do you add a poll
3/20/2008 7:57:29 PM EDT
[#3]
right hand side of the screen, under the sponsor buttons.

3/20/2008 7:58:38 PM EDT
[#4]
thanks
3/20/2008 8:02:05 PM EDT
[#5]
My first carbine was a Bushmaster.
3/20/2008 8:54:55 PM EDT
[#6]
My first was a Bushmaster and I never had any problems.
3/20/2008 8:57:29 PM EDT
[#7]
All are good.  I'd probably go with a Bushy or Stag--whichever's cheapest.
3/20/2008 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Another vote for Stag.
3/21/2008 11:29:58 AM EDT
[#9]
here's another almost identical poll
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=369751&page=1
3/21/2008 11:52:21 AM EDT
[#10]
Stag and Bushmaster both make very nice rifles.

Armalite, however is at the top of the crowded commercial market.  They're all about the same with regards to parts quality, but both BM and Stag have assembly QC issues fairly frequently compared to Armalite.

I have never seen a bad Armalite.  I know they don't use the premium materials or do all the testing the top guys do, but they put 'em together right.  Between dozens of makers in the middle of the pack right now, that's the biggest difference, and that's where Armalite shines.
3/21/2008 12:41:42 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Stag and Bushmaster both make very nice rifles.

Armalite, however is at the top of the crowded commercial market.  They're all about the same with regards to parts quality, but both BM and Stag have assembly QC issues fairly frequently compared to Armalite.

I have never seen a bad Armalite.  I know they don't use the premium materials or do all the testing the top guys do, but they put 'em together right.  Between dozens of makers in the middle of the pack right now, that's the biggest difference, and that's where Armalite shines.


I have, at a gun shop a couple of months ago.  Absolutely NO staking on the BCG key, and the whole thing looked like it was slapped together.  I was really surprised; I expected much better based on what people here have said.

In fact, that was the reason I put the Bushmaster on lawaway instead.
3/21/2008 12:44:26 PM EDT
[#12]
tag
3/21/2008 1:28:54 PM EDT
[#13]
They can all be good rifles.  The Stag is nice because it comes with a mil-spec buffer tube, which is stronger than a commercial tube and easier to upgrade to a tacticool stock.  Since you've already decided on an M4gery, the benefit of Armalite's mid-length gas system is negated but would make it a "better" choice.  You could save a little more $ and get an LMT or Colt rifle, though they're half again as much (and worth every penny IMO).  Hopefully you can look at them in person and inspect the BCG after looking at the picture rich threads on arfcom and choose based on the carrier key stacking since this is where most rifles "fail."  YMMV
3/21/2008 9:56:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Go Stag! Great quality and super people to deal with.
3/21/2008 10:00:34 PM EDT
[#15]


choose 2  or  3
3/22/2008 8:43:19 PM EDT
[#16]
thanks guys for all the help, i purchased a stag model 3 for $800
3/22/2008 8:44:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Armalite FTW!

My next AR will be an Armalite!
3/22/2008 9:50:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Have you considered a Colt?








3/23/2008 4:37:55 AM EDT
[#19]
Bushmaster's are fine, but it you're looking for the highest qualit AR and a life-time warranty, then you'll have to purchase an ARMALITE!!!!  
3/23/2008 5:08:36 AM EDT
[#20]
Go Stag. Bushy is OK. Armalite is a 'BMW badge on an economy car'. JMHO
3/23/2008 6:18:41 AM EDT
[#21]
Although I selected Stag, I have to say none of the above... get yourself an LMT, BCM, or CMMG instead.
3/23/2008 9:27:38 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Go Stag. Bushy is OK. Armalite is a 'BMW badge on an economy car'. JMHO


Very funny and very true.  I don't think they're priced like a BMW, though.  Right on par with the others.
3/23/2008 9:58:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Go with the one that offers a midlength - Armalite.
3/24/2008 2:32:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Neither (Yuk)....is this a forced purchase by your PD or something? All three have reliability issues with Bushmaster the worst of the 3, especially if you run them hard via a carbine course. All three fall well below the US Army's standard requirement or TDP. The TDP is considered the bottom standard for which most AR manufacturers FAIL to achieve. Armalite being the best of the 3. I guess if u use it on occasion or just to impress the brother in-law at family gatherings, it will do. Buy cheap, buy twice. Save more money and get a Colt 6920, LMT or Noveske N-4 (All three EXCEEDING TDP Specs.), sleep better, have peace of mind that it won't quit when u need it.
3/24/2008 2:55:02 PM EDT
[#25]
i say armalite or stag, they have been around for a long time.

i just got an armalite ar10 and love it, i couldn't be more pleased with it.  it is just a standard a4 with 20 inch std barrel and it consistently shoots sub 1 inch groups at 100 yards.

my friend is left handed and bought a lefty ar15 from stag and he loves it and has not had any problems with it.

i would stay away from bushy (just my opinion) ive heard they have had some QC issues.
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