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9/15/2007 10:48:05 AM EDT
Okay so I bought a DPMS ar-15 m4 a few months ago and it has been changing ever since. A list of things I have added are: Magpul pistol grip, free floating quad rail, EOtech<with NV>, A guntech high intensity LED flashlight w/ stage 1 laser<bought the laser by accident>, I also added the extra rail system to the front sight, and a few different front fore grips. Some of the things I am planning on adding is the flip side EOtech x3 magnifier, a single stage trigger<any suggestions on which company would be awesome>, and maybe a new barrel.

The whole purpose for this rifle is that I plan on making it a full duty weapon. So why do I need so many attachments? Because I would like to have the diversity that I need during a job. I would rather have something and not need it than need it and not have it. So any suggestions on what else I should do<that is realistic/practical> ? Or suggestions on product lines for the things I said I was going to upgrade?
9/15/2007 11:05:29 AM EDT
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...So any suggestions on what else I should do<that is realistic/practical> ? Or suggestions on product lines for the things I said I was going to upgrade?


Pull most of that stuff off your carinbe and go take a good 3 day class.

You can't buy competancy and the gear will NOT make up for a lack of skill.  At the class you'll find out what gear works and what doesn't.  What you need, and what just adds weight.

It will be the best money you EVER spent on a firearm.  I receiver far better instruction in a basic 3 class than I did during the week of BRM at basic.

9/15/2007 12:24:10 PM EDT
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Stop spending money on attachments/accessories, and spend more money on ammo and more time practicing.
9/15/2007 5:51:00 PM EDT
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For the record I am ex army and spent plenty of time shooting. And I put plenty of money into amo. I also don't always have every attachment on, but I put them on as need be...I am not just looking for attachments so much as just things to make it shoot better. but thanks for the commentary so far
9/15/2007 6:05:07 PM EDT
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Start with a good trigger.  Many of them out there in many different price ranges.  I like the RRA trigger myself.  Bravo Company has it HERE for $120.00.  You might find it cheaper but I like BravoCo
9/15/2007 6:36:45 PM EDT
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For the record I am ex army and spent plenty of time shooting. And I put plenty of money into amo. I also don't always have every attachment on, but I put them on as need be...I am not just looking for attachments so much as just things to make it shoot better. but thanks for the commentary so far


The best thing to do that is work on the nut behind the trigger.

Spend money on training before you buy more gear.

I realized you're "ex-army", but I'm infantry, a designated marksman, and a sniper and I still need more training.
9/15/2007 6:43:23 PM EDT
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For the record I am ex army and spent plenty of time shooting. And I put plenty of money into amo. I also don't always have every attachment on, but I put them on as need be...I am not just looking for attachments so much as just things to make it shoot better. but thanks for the commentary so far


Attachments don't make the rifle shoot better by themselves. If it's a quality rifle to begin with then that's a plus, but sound marksmanship fundamentals & the appropriate training are better. It's no matter how much time you have behind the stick. Contiuous training is a must for even the most hard corps operator after active duty or LEO. If it's a patrol rifle then a good light, good mags/ammo, & a good sling (maybe a VG if it helps you) is all you need. A good CQB sight with buis is a personal preference.
9/16/2007 11:58:56 AM EDT
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For the record I am ex army and spent plenty of time shooting.


May of us are (myself included).

There is far more to it than pulling the trigger.  Take a class and learn what you missed in the Army - it's an eye opening experience to say the least.
9/16/2007 12:41:07 PM EDT
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For the record I am ex army and spent plenty of time shooting.


May of us are (myself included).

There is far more to it than pulling the trigger.  Take a class and learn what you missed in the Army - it's an eye opening experience to say the least.


Very well articulated. A lot of former/current mil & leo's here that will concur.
9/16/2007 8:08:33 PM EDT
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Obviously it seems like everyone has given me the same suggestion. So now I turn to the question of do you guys have any suggestions as to which classes to take? places that they are offered, and I know there is no such thing as enough time behind the trigger. But any links to website for classes, phone numbers that sort of thing would be great. Thanks all once again!
9/17/2007 1:33:16 PM EDT
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I'd suggest you visit our Training Forum.  They can give you ideas about what you might find in your local area.

Of course there is always Gunsite and Thunder Ranch if you don't mind travelling.

10-8 is another forum where you can find course announcements.
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