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Posted: 7/13/2007 12:15:26 PM EDT
| Who do you think makes the most effective flash hider? Thanks |
And yet Phantoms never had a problem with the tines bowing outward with use like the Vortexes did. |
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I have still never seen a Vortex that was blossomed as many have refered to. I can't imagine it happening from firingbecause there is no place for pressure to build up unless there was an obstruction. Can anyone dig up some pics? It would be nice to have the story behind such a pic also. Inquiring minds want to know  .
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Some of the older ones, like G1-3 IIRC, were constructed differently than the G6 out for the last couple years or so. The G6 version, does not have these problems and is very heavily constructed. ETA: "Not" 
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Vortex is the most effective. IIRC, the blossoming occurred with early vortex models. |
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I have some pics floating around my Photoshop box of a flash hider test I helped a local company with. I'll come back and post them tonight. As I recall, one of their three prong designs kicked butt. I do believe that design is the basis of the new AAC Blackout flash-hider/suppressor mounts. |
 It's aac's new flashhider that works with their m4-1000 and I think the older m4-2000's and a few of the other newer ones... someone more familiar with it could tell you what other aac suppressors it works with... eta: here's a link to a thread I forgot I started about the blackout fh...  blackout |
Silencers are usually not as good as a high end flash hider. AAC suppressors get more flash with the can mounted than not. It is not that suppressors are bad it is just that the better flash hiders are THAT good. |
I beg to differ, have you seen the thread with the various F/S on a 11.5 bbl with various brands of ammo--with pics taken. I think the pics speak for themselves. |
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When your talking short barrels... your gonna have flash.... Besides.. how much shooting do YOU do at night???? for the majority of AR owners.. this is minutia.... If your gonna get wrapped around something... get wrapped around skill and proficient execution of the basic marksmenship fundamentals..... 
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Is that full auto fire or something, my rifle looks nothing like those! There are multple hot spots in those pics. I think that is very misleading. |
Mother of god, is the "KAC comp" the birdcage FH or the NT4 muzzle brake? |
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I've done "night fire" a few times and I can say on a "carbine" length rifle, the flash hiders work vs. a pistol/shotgun/whatever... No clue about a SBR. The YHM-5C2 Phantom is pretty impressive; especially for the price! I have no idea why "flash hiders" scare the libtards, but from my limited experience they do make a difference from the "bidness end."
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This is a 3 round burst which is a standard for flash testing as it gives a better AVERAGE of flash. This makes it much easier to determine which flash hider is actually more effective since individual rounds can have vastly different levels of flash. A one shot test is the "very misleading" test... not a timed 3 round burst test. A manufacturer could pick a "low flash" single round and compare it to a "high flash" competitors round and claim victory. With 3 round burst testing you will have more uniformity. Also the flash testing is timed. If you take a photo of any particular moment the flash is visable you cannot see the entire the flash. Longer exposures allow the ENTIRE flash to be captured. |
All but one is a three round burst. The oddball is a four round burst. With that single (and very easy to see in the Phantom shot) difference, all the images reflect the same amount of rounds downrange. That makes the test 'fair' in my book. I'll go back and add that to my "you didn't use my rifle so your test is bogus" disclaimer. |
Tell me about it! I could practically see the shooter through closed eyelids when that went off. I was certain it fried my sensor.... (but luckily Canon makes their pro cameras pretty darn hardy) It was the brake I believe. It looked like a solid ribbed tube with tiny little slots cut down it longwise. It certainly looked nothing like a normal birdcage. |
Shooting at night? Probably more than you. Thank you I am aware of the shorter bbl more flash routine..I read about it on the internet. 
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This is about 1997 My friends Factory installed Bushmaster 14.5"/VORTEX. Under rapid fire the tines started to flare out, and the blow off. Bushmaster replaced "no charge". He test fired and they blew off again. Bushmaster said it was a "real" vortex. Here's an old 35mm scanned pic, just before the top one blew off..  |
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Damn, that is disappointing. I heard good things about the NT4, but apparently it's useless as a flash hider. |
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