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6/12/2007 9:05:42 PM EDT
Hello, long time reader but first time poster.  With the upcoming of my 18th birthday (June 14th) I will soon be making my first AR15 purchase .  After reading for months on ar15.com I've decided to build my own black rifle.  I was hoping to use a POF-USA Generation I P-415/416 lower, but recently I am having trouble finding them in stock.

I did find some in stock on ddsranch:  

Lower

Is this a reliable dealer and has anyone ordered from them?  Does anyone know of any other dealers with these lowers in stock?  Thanks in advance.

P.S. Heres the build I plan to do.
Upper: LMT 14.5in upper, perm attatched vltor fh, denny's super duty m16 bcg, C4 diopter HK style irons.

Sorry for the long first post, Im just excited.
6/13/2007 2:58:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Have never heard of the lower, or the dealer, but hey, it's NARKED, so you might get arested by the Drug Task Force if you buy one
6/13/2007 3:51:02 AM EDT
[#2]
POF is nice.  I have a Gen II and realy like it.  I have not heard of that dealer, mine came from Rainier Arms.  The Gen II is bilet aluminum and has an built in trigger guard.
6/13/2007 4:50:52 AM EDT
[#3]
I wouldn't. If your going with the LMT 14.5 p.fs your not going to be matching up the lower and the upper.
The POF forged versions are gone unless this guy has some old one's still in stock. You not building a precision AR, your building a 14.5 CBQ fighting rifle with a forged upper receiver. The benefit to the higher cost for the billet lower adding a little more precision in your case isn't really worth it I think for the AR your building.
That company sells Mega lowers for 109 which is a very good price for a very good receiver. I'd go with that before the POF in this case if it was me, but LMT doesn't teflon-moly their uppers, so either way the finish will be off from the teflon-moly coating both the POF and Mega's have.
If that's an issue for you, than you should look at other lowers with straight anodizing.
A Stag (CMT) lower for example or go all out with LMT and get an LMT lower with Sopmod stock package.

Rainier LMT lower/Sopmod

Mega

AR15 lower receiver faqs thread

Delton Stags


Have a Happy Birthday!
6/13/2007 5:03:51 AM EDT
[#4]
If you are going with an LMT upper might as well get a LMT lower.  At least your entire upper and lower will be purple.

Anyhoo, here is mine that I picked up from Rainier Arms when they had them:
6/13/2007 5:54:20 AM EDT
[#5]
I've used ddsranch.com several times for lowers, I'm happy, never had a problem.  I don't know anything about the POF lowers but I saw he has some in stock.
6/13/2007 7:32:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the replys.  

riggsy: Glad to here you like your POF lower, and although its only a cosmetic issue I just cant bring myself to like that trigger guard.

Achilles1:  I've been back and forth between the LMT lower and the POF lower.   It may seem silly, but for the price I just don't like the looks of the SOPMOD or the ergo grip and I can't seem to find any LMT defender 2000 lowers without the SOPMOD.  If I were able to I might be leaning towards the LMT lower.  What really draws me towards the POF lower are the HK fire control engravings.  With the Generation III lower now out and the dwindling supply of Generation I lowers, I'm afraid if I don't buy now its going to be extremely hard to find one in the next few years (this will probally be my last purchase for the next few years as college will be taking most of my money).  As for the matching of the upper and lower, even though most of my other decisions are based on cosmetics, this does not bother me too much (I know it doesen't make sense but afterall I'm still a teenager), and from what I've seen in pictures it is not too far off.  Thankyou for the happy birthday comment.

jackal2001: Although the idea of an all purple rifle is very exciting, that beautiful lower you posted makes me want the POF even more.  I wish Ranier still had them as I will be ordering the majority of the rifle from them.

11287:  Thats good news about ddsranch.com, I just felt a little uneasy about using them without having any feedback.

Anyone have any pictures of a POF lower on a LMT upper or any opinion on ddsranch?
8/31/2007 7:43:41 PM EDT
[#7]
A bit late (this is mostly to see if I can post a picture succesfully), I went with a complete LMT rifle.  Couldnt be happier, thanks for the help.


I cant, I have a photobucket account, how do I post the pictures?
9/1/2007 7:09:11 PM EDT
[#8]
I have a POF upper on an LMT Lower.  They match perfectly.
9/1/2007 7:29:18 PM EDT
[#9]
DD's Ranch is great to do business with. My friends and I have bought a multitude of lowers from them. Great prices too. Place your order online, make sure to verify they have your FFL on file, and the lowers will ship on time.

POF lowers are really nice. I have an early forged one, as well as their later generation billet ones. Megas are also really great.

If you like the HK markings, POF's are the way to go. You can also get HK markings on Spike Tactical lowers. www.lanworldinc.com They are made by LAR which are the same as doublestars. The Spike's Tactical lowers come with a full auto marking as well.

If I were putting all my time and effort into one build. I would pay the extra money and get the POF lower.

btw - I have all of the above lowers, so I guess you can't really go wrong.

I hope you put as much thought into a quality barrel as you are the lower. Happy building.



9/2/2007 3:29:57 AM EDT
[#10]
I use imageshack, seems that you have to use the direct link code.
9/2/2007 4:57:22 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Thanks.  I went with a complete LMT rifle (well mostly):

LMT 14.5in upper with pinned/welded VLTOR fh
LMT defender 2000 lower w/sopmod
(thanks to rainier arms for the above)
Dennys superduty M16 bcg
houge grip
standard carry handle

I love this rifle.  Does anyone know how to post pictures?  I've searched but cant seem to find the information, although I know I have seen it before.  I have a photo bucket account as well.


Your pics need to be uploaded to phothpucket, then it's just a matter of copy and paste.
9/4/2007 12:16:25 AM EDT
[#12]
+1 on ddsranch.  I bought a gun from them-- smooth transaction.

Every POF lower I've seen is a real super dark black.  

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