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Posted: 2/7/2007 11:46:30 AM EDT
| After seriously looking into the Colt LE6920, it was suggested that I get a Rock River AR because they are just about the same as Colts and $200-300 less for a comprable model. So, what is the difference between the RR Entry Tactical and the Tactical CAR-A4? Also, if I remove the detachable carry handle from the RR rifles, are there picatanny mounts on the receiver so that I can mount optics and what not? Also, if anyone has either of the RR models that I am interested in and is willing to post pics showing me what the deal is with the removable carry handle and receiver or to show off your rifles in general, I would appreciate it. ARs are expensive and I just want to be sure that I get what I want. Thanks. |
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Marinesfan, The only significant difference between the Entry Tactical and the Tactical CAR A4 is the barrel. The Rntry Tactical has an "R4" profiled barrel (our version of the M4) while the Tactical CAR A4 has a straight profile forward of the front sight housing. Both are HBAR under the handguards.Both are available chrome-lined. The Entry Tactical is also available with chrome-lined light-weight-under-the-handguard barrels in 1:9 or 1:7 twist rates. The standard configuration includes our Tactical Carry Handle mounted to the A4 (flat-top) receiver. Either can also be had with the Dominator or Dominator-2 mounts, an A2 carry handle, or no mount (so you can mount a folding rear sight, magnifying optics, etc... Thanks. Steve/RRA |
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Are you kidding? A factory RRA is absolutely NO comparison to a factory Colt. The RRA is readily available to lowly civilians from any authorized dealer, has a bayonet lug, threaded muzzle, and EXCELLENT customer service! They offer several options in profiles, gas systems, CALIBERS, accessories, and because they listen to their customers, they're adding new stuff all the time. To top it all off, you can come to your favorite website (here) and have an ACTUAL EMPLOYEE answer any questions you may have!!! The guy at the gun shop was all wrong... Colt is NOTHING like Rock River Arms. 
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I bought 5 AR's last year and one more on the way identical to this one in the pic. Its a mid length with Stainless Steel barrel. I like it better than any of the others and its more accurate and I do have a Colt A3. It perfroms flawlessly and shoots5 shot groups generally between 5/8 and 1 inch with good ammo. Finish is second to none. JR 
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Thanks for all the replies. I have a few more questions regarding customization options. 1. Safety: What is the Ambi Safety Selector and how does it differ from the standard Star Safety Selector? 2. Barrel: I want a chrome-lined barrel. Are all the R-4 profile barrels (both light and regular step-cut? Also, what is the difference in accuracy and what not between the R-4 and the lightweight R-4 barrels? Also, what is the difference between the 1/7 and 1/9 twist in the barrels? Which barrel do you recommend and why? 3. Front Sight/Gas Block: What is the difference, other than price, between the standard A2 Front Sight, the Weaver Type Gas Block, the Gas Block and Detachable Front Sight, and the YHM Front Sight Gas Block Assembly? What are the advantages of each over the A2 Front Sight? If I get the A2 Front Sight and later decide that I want a different Front Sight/Gas Block, would I be able to make the switch myself or would RRA or a gunsmith have to do it for me? 4. Charging Handle: What is the difference between the standard charging handle and the Badger Tactical Latch, and the Gas Buster Charging Handle with Big Latch? Are they worth the additional money? 5. Regarding the difference between the Entry Tactical and the Tactical CAR-A4, it seems to me that the Tactical CAR-A4 is geared more towards 5.56 than .223 judging by the barrels available. Please correct me if I am wrong. Please let me know what you think. Also, money really is not a concern, but I do not want to spend dough on any upgrades that do nothing but increase the price of the rifle. Thanks. |
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If money isn't an issue, Get a Colt for your first AR. If money is an issue, the RRA will work. I have a RR and it ins't bad...but it isn't at the same level that my issue M-4 is or my 6920. Things like the buffer tube, bufffer, lack of staking on the extension, ect. make me wonder but it is on a range rifle so I don't stress on it. For a duty rifle, I prefer the durability of the Colts. Ignore the BS about one comany or another having better customer service. I have sent guns back to both and both were good. |
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I have found that my 1/9 twist barrels tend to be a little more accurate with 55 grain. The SS barrel in the photo I posted (it also has the YHM fold down front sight) is a 1/8 wylde chambering which is supposedly the best of both worlds. Its extremely accurate and easy to shoot with the 2 stage trigger. Yeah my COLT is stake a little better around the gas key and the buffer is mil spec. Big deal. My RRA performs flawlessly. I don't think the govenment would have bought them if they weren't well made. JR |
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I am new to this AR style rifle world but have owned a Bushmaster ( one because that is what we shot at the academy and at a tatical rifle school I went to ) not because I knew any better. Don't get me wrong, Bushmaster is a great rifle. I still own that same rifle. But I just bought a Rock River and I love it. Like I said before I am no expert on AR rifles but I put alot of thought into this rifle because it was my second rifle. I shot the DPMS, COLT, ROCK RIVER, OLYMPIC ARMS, as well as the new Smith & Wesson. I played with each of the guns, and to tell you the truth I choose the Rock River over the rest for several reasons: 1. The customer service, read several articles about how they stand behind the guns, and I know a guy that wore his out from shooting so much (of course he works at a large dept that supplies his ammo and shoots 3 days a week) he sent it back to the factory and they replaced the bolt, gas tube, buffer spring, and the barrell and sent it back to him at no charge !! Hell you can't beat that. 2. The upper and lower reciever is very tight together, no wiggle, or loose slack there. To me it just felt like a better made and put together gun. 3. The trigger in the Rock River for a factory trigger was very sweet compared to other factory triggers. 4. The price was very nice compared to the other rifles. 5. The Mississippi Highway Patrol just ordered several of the Rock River rifles to replace the COLT rifles ( may be due to price, may be due to the weapon, who knows but if it is good enough for them to carry on duty it must be a good gun) Liek I said before I am no expert on AR rifles (sure it is a FORD VS CHEVY debate) I just went with what I felt was a good, solid well made gun. My groups got alot tighter, and not sure if it is the barrell or the lighter trigger, but they got tighter and my confidence in making tight shots grew with the groupings getting tighter. Just my 2 cents worth. |
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Gaspipes did a very good summary, but I'll chime in as well. 1. The difference between the ambi safety selector and the std or star is the "other side". The standard/Star ojly has a lever on the lrft side, for a right handed person to activate with his/her rigth thumb. An ambi has an identical lever on the right side for either a leftie to use the same way, or as an option for a rightie. 2. Barrel: The twist rate is largely determined by the bullet length (and weight) that you want to stabilize. 1:7 will stabilize heavier bullets than 1:9, but won't stabilize ligher bullets quite as well. The standard bbl is unlined chrome moly steel. Chrome-lined bores and chambers are available as options on all of our moly bbls. The light weight bbls are only available as chrome-lined. Accuracy is going to be based on proper bullet for twist rate, quality of ammo, and shooter ability more than anything. That said, a lighter barrel will exhibit more flex and will heat up faster and stay hot longer than a heavier barrel. Chrome-lined barrels are often slightly less accurate than unlined barrels, but the degree of difference is often withinthe shooters ability and would not be noticeable. 3. The A2 front sight is standard, and what evertthing else should be compared to. As already stated, a gas block is just that...a transfer point for the gasses in the barrel to transition into the gas tube. It has a weaver rail on top, but no sights are included with it. A detachable front sight is available that will mount directly to it, as are numerour flip style sights. The flip front sight/gas block unit is a combination of a gas manifold and folding front sight. Removing an A2 front sight is not recommended for someone who isn't familiar with what they're doing as the gas system is involved. 4. The charging handle is the same whether you get it withthe std latch or the tac latch. The tac latch is primarily intended as an alternative when using a scope or other divice that would limit your ability to get your finger over the top of the charging handle...so you can get around it rather than over it with a tac latch. The gas buster is great on suppressed and blowback (9mm etc..) systems, and the big latch on it is a very functional blernding of standard and tac latch capabilities. All three set up s have their proponents and opponents. 5. As to caliber...both rifles mentioned have identical chambers, the 5.56mm NATO. It allows the safe firing of both .223 Rem. and 5.56mm NATO. If you opted for the Tactical CAR A4 with stainless bbl, it would have the .223 Wylde chamber, which is a match chamber for sem-autos. It will also safely handle the .223 Rem or 5.56mm NATO, just more accurately (in general terms). Hope that helps. Steve/RRA |
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