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1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM EDT
I am thinking about getting a second AR15, this time a 20" version.  I have a 16" Bushmaster and I've had great luck with it.  However, I have considered DPMS because they seem to be a little less spendy.

How do the two compare against one another for quality?

How much should I be able to get a DPMS 20" Panther for (std A2 military configuration)?

Thanks!
1/20/2007 2:03:41 AM EDT
[#1]
Anyone???
1/20/2007 2:37:09 AM EDT
[#2]
$800
1/20/2007 3:25:04 AM EDT
[#3]
Rock River!
1/20/2007 3:59:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Bushmaster is a good name and DPMS is cheaper. I like Panther Arms so I went that route. i.e. cheaper.

I built my DPMS right before Christmas. I will only shoot iron sights and probably never use a scope so I went with a fixed carry handle and the longer barrel. Overall it was a pretty basic rifle. The next one will be fancier with shorter barrel, picatinny hand guard, etc...

It had
20" barrel with long hand guard
fixed carry handle
4 position collapsible butt stock

I brought the lower in through a local dealer.
$105 delivered.
$30 for transfer and background check

The rest was a rifle kit from Coleman Tyler.
Grand total! $650.00

There were the standard issues with the roll pins, but the machining quality of all the internal parts was very good looking. I'd go the DPMS route again.
1/20/2007 4:01:26 AM EDT
[#5]
I've had both guns.  Personally I think the DPMS receivers are better than bushmaster.  Bushmaster QC is lacking sometimes.  I have a Bushmaster front sight that looks like it was machined off center so that one side is thicker than the other.  Bushmaster barrels are hard to beat.
1/20/2007 4:01:54 AM EDT
[#6]
It wouldn't even really be a question for me. I would go Bushmaster
1/20/2007 8:23:18 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
.  Personally I think the DPMS receivers are better than bushmaster.  Bushmaster QC is lacking sometimes.  


I've had two DPMS lowers. The first had the cut for the front takedown pin cut off center and the finish was mottled.  The second, while dimensionally accurate, had front and rear walls the looked like they'd been  (non)trimmed by a drunken monkey.  Only bought the thing because I was planning to reshape it to early M16 configuration, and just went ahead and smoothed out the horrible looking areas as I trimmed the A2 type areas.

Maybe you got a decent looking piece, but I'll never buy a DPMS lower again.
1/20/2007 9:17:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Lar makes both BM and DPMS receivers. The big diff is BM's chrome lined barrel.
AR's are like Harley's very few keep them stock. Get the cheaper gun and change what you want later.
1/28/2007 10:50:01 AM EDT
[#9]
Owning both, I would buy the Bushmaster if you must limit it to those two.
1/28/2007 10:59:21 AM EDT
[#10]
My opinion is that there is no appreciable difference in inherent quality between these two brands. Find one you like, with the features you want, at the lowest price you can find. Both companies are capable of putting out a very high quality product, and both have had their share of really unbelievable duds.

Brewer
1/28/2007 11:12:24 AM EDT
[#11]
I have one bushmaster factory assembled complete rifle, and three DPMS lowers.  The trigger is better in the bushy, but as far as the stripped lowers, they are both perfect as far as I am concerned.  The bushy has the plastic trigger guard, but I see no advantage to either.  I have two lowers with DPMS parts kits, and the triggers are gritty as hell, but a dab of disc brake bearing grease, and dry firing a lot and adding another dab has made them equivalent to the bushy.  I haven't had to add any grease since after the second time.  Personally I would not hesitate to use anything from either manufacturer.  
The bushmaster costs at least $200 more, but much like a colt will always probably be worth that much more should you wish to sell it.  I would love to have another bushmaster or colt, but for the money I have been buying DPMS parts and have been perfectly satisfied.
2/12/2007 6:01:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Get the Bushmaster.

DPMS is as good as a Dog with no Legs. Sure it Can Bark and Wag its Tail, but when it's time to run your fucked.
2/12/2007 6:09:39 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Get the Bushmaster.

DPMS is as good as a Dog with no Legs. Sure it Can Bark and Wag its Tail, but when it's time to run your fucked.


And since when did a snake grow legs? My DPMS has ran fine.
2/12/2007 6:12:57 PM EDT
[#14]
bushy or stag or rra
2/12/2007 6:18:32 PM EDT
[#15]
height=8
I am thinking about getting a second AR15, this time a 20" version. I have a 16" Bushmaster and I've had great luck with it. However, I have considered DPMS because they seem to be a little less spendy.

How do the two compare against one another for quality?

How much should I be able to get a DPMS 20" Panther for (std A2 military configuration)?

Thanks!



theBUBBAMANcan,

I'm fairly new to ARFCOM but I've already learned that you can't ask a 'comparative' question like this here.  You'll pull in the haters from both sides of the fence.  After everyone has finished bashing each other for their opinions and preferences, you'll be even more confused than you were before you asked the question.
2/12/2007 6:20:24 PM EDT
[#16]
You’re going to get a wide range of answers leaving you undecided.  Same thing happened to me. Just go get the DPMS and enjoy it, I’ve had zero problems with mine.
2/12/2007 6:49:08 PM EDT
[#17]
I would definitely go with Bushmaster.
2/12/2007 7:01:12 PM EDT
[#18]
I had two DPMSs and a Bushmaster as well as my current RRA. I admittedly had an older DPMS with a cast reciever, and a newer one (made in 1999). I feel as though the finish on the Bushmaster was much much better than the older DPMS, but the more recent one was about equal. I personally felt that the surface toughness on the upper reciever and the barrel steel were noticably softer on both the DPMS rifles than the Bushmaster. Chrome lining makes it easier to clean and theoretically more reliable, but I had no reliability problems with any of them. The DPMS did fail to extract twice in the first 20 rounds, but never had a problem after. I do personally feel as though the DPMS is of slightly lower quality than either RRA or Bushmaster. This may not be the rule, but I achieved far better accuracy with the Bushmaster, and am yet to shoot the RRA.

In any case, buy one, and don't look back or you will second guess yourself until you buy the other, and so begins the disease.

Good luck,
Joe.
2/12/2007 7:04:34 PM EDT
[#19]
Here's another vote for Bushmaster, I have had three with ZERO problems over the past 10 years and thousands of rounds. The fit and finish on the DPMS reminds me of Olympic, definitely a half notch downgrade.
2/12/2007 7:50:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Dont know the cost of the configuration you want, but I got my DPMS M4A1 16" for under $1000 tax included.

I consider my DPMS to be a better rifle than the Colts and FNs at work. It is a fine rifle.
2/12/2007 7:53:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Really cant compare a generic AR to a Bushmaster or Armalite or Colt etc.

TG
2/13/2007 7:12:58 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Really cant compare a generic AR to a Bushmaster or Armalight or Colt etc.

TG


Sounds about right

Do your self a favor and get the DPMS
2/13/2007 7:22:17 AM EDT
[#23]
Do yourself a favor and get a DPMS, it features 4140 steel vs 4150 steel and none chrome lined barrel, so what if it jams or breaks on you when you need it most.

(just as well purchased a Hesse)

You saved a few buxs.

TG lmao

2/13/2007 7:26:31 AM EDT
[#24]
Why not just buy a CMMG built weapon. They are mil-spec overall. However if only able to pick from DPMS or Bushmaster then I would say Bushmaster.

C77
2/13/2007 7:32:14 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
It wouldn't even really be a question for me. I would go Bushmaster


+1

after working on them for a long time, and building them. I won't do business with dpms
2/13/2007 7:44:37 AM EDT
[#26]
Am I the first to say,              "GET BOTH!!"    


j/k
I have a Bushmaster M4 that's been dropped on concrete, dragged
thru mud and sand and knocked off the tailgate by the damn-cat,
but has always served me faithfully.
I can't tell about the others, don't hate them or love them, but the
Bushmaster has lived up to its reputation.
And it smells good. Like some kind of burning wood.  
What is that?
Oh wait, I see you already have one of em... heh, got carried away.
2/13/2007 8:32:55 AM EDT
[#27]
My DPMS has been great! Never once failed me in anyway, but I think that goes for any quality rifle that you take care of and feed decent ammo and use good mags. It was really a plain Jain at first, but I did some mods to make in unique.

I stole the idea of coloring in the logo with white I saw here on the forum. Don't be mad guy who came up with that original idea. hy.gif


Note the new Pardus stock!he
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2/13/2007 10:06:30 AM EDT
[#28]
STAG is better than DPMS Bushmaster or RRA. LMT better yet. There is alot out there better than the top tier manufactureers rifles and uppers. Its all about how nice and how much one is willing to spend.
2/13/2007 11:27:32 AM EDT
[#29]
The manufacturer is only preference. It is how you use it and what you do with it that matters. Use good ammo, decent mags, and get lots of trigger time. everything else is trivial.
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