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Posted: 1/13/2007 3:35:16 PM EDT
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I don't know this has been covered but wow! I know what I want for next Christmas!!!! hornady.com/story.php?s=543
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I guess that you missed the .458 SOCOM and the .50 Beowulf when they first came out... This isn't a groundbreaking new idea, it's just the latest twist on a thumper. I suggest you go spend some time in the VARIANTS forum and read all you want about these cartridges as well as the 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, and quite a few other AR chamberings. |
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Last thing I want is some upper chambered for some caliber that will very well be obsolete in a few years if not sooner. I also don't want to buy mags that are specific and unobtainable in the same period of time. I'm probably not the only one that thinks that way. I can understand .308 ARs, same for 6.8s or Grendels, I can't understand a .45 cal "black powder" AR. In the end, the AR system works well in 5.56 and some wildcat .45 round won't make it better. I do understand their problem tho, the AR market is saturated and they feel the need to expand to a new area to keep sales high. Don't think that this is the way tho. |
| i'm interested in one of these varient , i don't know which one it'll be but a switchable ARmakes sense to me . the .50 beowulf is about like a 45.70 in the light and handy AR . -------- i'm going to learn more and its going to be awhile before i do any thing but a big bore AR makes sense to me !! -------- yooper |
No shit- my GG mags need one. They have introduced something totally useless- Special mags for a cartrige that is very limited. The could have introduced a 50 Beo or 458 socom to compete with RRA. |
The big difference in the .450 has hornadies backing. See .17HRM, .204Ruger, .450Magnum. Having the ammo supplier lined up makes a huge difference. |
For personl experance. Dont buy any new product form Bushmaster for a couple of years. I hate to be a bushie basher. But I got one of the first couple of hundred M17 imbus Rifles. From them in a word JUNK!. Cost more shipping it back and forth to try and fix the diffent problems than I payed for it. Let them work out the bug's for a couple of years. Unless they will send you one free and a suply of ammo and mag's so you can be there Lab Rat. Personaly I dont like paying for the privliage. 
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.458 SOCOM has Cor Bons backing, At least they offer factory loaded ammo for it. |
+1 Hornady being involved is a big plus for me, It would be nice to see some numbers though, rather than hype, which is all we've been provided with so far.   |
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I could see myself getting a .45 Bushmaster upper for hunting. See, I believe they are trying to expand the AR into other markets like your hunting market. The AR already has it all in the tacticool market and is now making huge gains in the varminting market. A bigger more powerful round in a very reliable set-up that is very ergonomical and quite simple, plus the fact it will be semi-auto, could bring many non-AR hunting folks attention to the AR platform. Just my $0.02. |
I can tell you haven't shot one of the big-bore ARs yet... They are a lot of fun but expensive to feed. I'm not sure I'm going to jump up and down yet until I see what the Hornady ammo costs... Spooky |
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I'm also interested in the Bushmaster/Hornady round, especially since it appears to be using .452 bullets. (I can see inexpensive plinking ammo using the 45acp components already on hand.) But before I jump, I will have to have a set of dies on hand. As far as the magazine goes, I ready some time ago it was a standard 30 round mag, with just a unique follower. |
Looks like a basic 30rnd mag with a aftermarket follower? |
True. But i trust Hornady a lot more than Corbon. I stopped using anything made by corbon approx 10 yrs ago. |
I believe you are correct. |
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' AR market is saturated and they feel the need to expand to a new area to keep sales high. Don't think that this is the way tho' Me either. What they need to do is to become a large-scale vendor to the government, like Colt, then make their non-government rifles just as mil-spec as Colt. Bushmaster has too many models already. I don't know what the retailing specialists call this situation, but it's usually bad. |
Nope, I've owned no big bore ARs, but I've shot plenty of big bore pistol [.454] and own a few .308s and 06s. Cept for the .454 I could, in the past, find inexpensive surp ammo. I think the AR in 308 makes good sense, on other calibers, I'mwaiting to see what moves to the forefront as far as popularity. I'd have LOVED to have seen them market a .45 acp AR on the other hand. I'd give them a serious looksee. |
S&W got into this game a few years back. Flavor of the month club as it was mockinly called back then. In the end, they had to scale back and dump quite a few models. |
I wish they did also. However I wouldn't mind a 16" standard carbine, I hope its offered as just an upper. I read on another forum that MV is supposed to be 2500+ fps. |
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