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11/23/2006 5:29:51 AM EDT
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here at ARFCOM!

Now to my problem. I got a Stag Arms complete lower receiver yesterday, and there was a slight problem with the stock.

The little nut (I guess that what it is) under the latch to collapse the stock is very loose. You can collapse it, but the latch has a lot of play in it. Is there a way to make the nut tighter? I've had a stock with slight play in the latch, but NEVER this much.

Any ideas?
11/23/2006 6:45:26 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm assumig thet the assembly is the same as everyone elses, and there's a round slotted nut on a threaded shank, that's held in place with a cross pin. If so, you need to drive out that little pin, and turn the round nut in until you've got the tension you want.  Then line up the hole and the slot, and reinsert the pin.

And why do I keep hearing about little problems with Stag/Continental products lately? A year ago they were getting kudos for the good quality of their stuff. Another AR maker who let success translate into dumping quality control in favor of increased production?
11/23/2006 7:29:42 AM EDT
[#2]

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And why do I keep hearing about little problems with Stag/Continental products lately? A year ago they were getting kudos for the good quality of their stuff. Another AR maker who let success translate into dumping quality control in favor of increased production?


My GUESS (and that is all it is) is that since they are a military contractor, and most contactors are going full bore to fill their contacts, that the commercial side gets the stuff that dosent quite pass military QC. Sometimes it could be that the finish wasn't perfect, or it may be that it was out of spec by .0001". It all depends on the company.
11/23/2006 8:01:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Thats funny. I posted the same thing last night about my S&W which is made by Stag.
The nut and lever are really loose and rattle badly. I was going to call S&W and have them send me another (if they would) change it out and sent that one back. Sounds like they are all bad.
JRandyH
11/23/2006 6:31:22 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I'm assumig thet the assembly is the same as everyone elses, and there's a round slotted nut on a threaded shank, that's held in place with a cross pin. If so, you need to drive out that little pin, and turn the round nut in until you've got the tension you want.  Then line up the hole and the slot, and reinsert the pin.


Sorry for a couple of dumb follow up questions, but I don't want to screw this up.

1. Do I need to unscrew the screw at the bottom of the shank to remove the roll pin?

2. If I don't, about how much force should I be using to get it out? I hit it with a similar sized nail punch, but it didn't want to budge.
11/23/2006 7:29:16 PM EDT
[#5]
The screw is the length adjustment of the pin, you can't remove the nut by unscrewing it.  You'll have to drive out the steel roll pin first, then you can turn the screw.
11/24/2006 5:16:00 AM EDT
[#6]
Okay, last question I promise.

I noticed that the hole in the stock for the buffer tube is not flush when the stock is fully collapsed. There is about a half inch gap between the buffer tube, and the end of the stock. I haven't had a M4 stock in about a year so I can't remember if its supposed to sit flush with the stock when fully collapsed.

Sorry for the stupid questions
11/24/2006 6:10:31 AM EDT
[#7]
The new ribbed M4 stock is longer and has an angled, larger butt pad, when used with 4 position buffer tubes that works with the older generation of M4 stock, it's not flush.  I checked my Colt ribbed M4 stock, Colt buffer extension and Vltor extensions, none of them are flush with the ribbed M4 stock.
I think if extensions exist that are flush, they're probably not milspec, but I only have two to compare, I don't have an LMT or CMT tube.
11/24/2006 7:02:04 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
The new ribbed M4 stock is longer and has an angled, larger butt pad, when used with 4 position buffer tubes that works with the older generation of M4 stock, it's not flush.  I checked my Colt ribbed M4 stock, Colt buffer extension and Vltor extensions, none of them are flush with the ribbed M4 stock.
I think if extensions exist that are flush, they're probably not milspec, but I only have two to compare, I don't have an LMT or CMT tube.


I have nevr seen a mil spec 4 pos fit flush with a gen 2 M4 stock
11/24/2006 8:45:22 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The new ribbed M4 stock is longer and has an angled, larger butt pad, when used with 4 position buffer tubes that works with the older generation of M4 stock, it's not flush.  I checked my Colt ribbed M4 stock, Colt buffer extension and Vltor extensions, none of them are flush with the ribbed M4 stock.
I think if extensions exist that are flush, they're probably not milspec, but I only have two to compare, I don't have an LMT or CMT tube.


I have nevr seen a mil spec 4 pos fit flush with a gen 2 M4 stock


The original 2 position coated metal stock on the SP1s doesn't either
11/24/2006 10:46:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Same problem, only my Stag is almost a year old.  The whole latch mechanism rattles like Fred Sanfords junk truck.  

The stock is tight, and the gun is a quality piece.  This rattle is my only complaint.  The rest of my Stag is good to go, so Ill fix it sooner or later.  Maybe some type of "O" ring arrangement to take out the slack.  

Years ago the triangle handguards on my then brand new Colt SP1 laid the palm of my hand open like I'd used a scalpel on it.  Just enough misallignment between the left and right halves at the vent holes to create one hell of a sharp edge.  
I bled like a stuck pig and it hurt like hell to boot.  Everybody slips with QC every now and then, but the better companies seem to make mistakes that are really simple to fix, and Ill be an "O" ring will be cheaper than what I paid for a set of round handguards.
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