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Posted: 8/5/2006 1:03:36 PM EDT
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I am looking to build an ultra light build to try and get my girlfriend to go shooting. She has very little shooting experience and her worst fear is "kick" So my idea is to put toghether a 16" pencil barrel rig then put a comp on it so that she can hold and shoot it with out getting any kick. THen work her towards more common recoil levels. So back to the lable what is the best comp to meet that goal without looking too entirely dorky? |
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recoil for 5.56/.223 ARs, imo, is negligible and basically non-existant besides if you add on a break, it will just make it louder for the shooter.... the only AR breaks i have tried are: AK and dthe Izzy--dont remember which was lighter on recoil, but the AK one was pretty stout for the ears  the Izzy looked better i would rather just put a rubber but pad on the AR and run it w/ a middy system and use .223 ammo |
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So back to the lable what is the best comp to meet that goal without looking too entirely dorky? You are looking for the wrong device. Let's review... Flash Hider/Flash Suppressor - reduces muzzle flash. Compensator - reduces muzzle flip by directing some of the gas up, thus holding the muzzle level. Muzzle Brake - reduces felt recoil by directing some of the gas to the rear, at the expense of greatly increased noise level to the shooter. Some devices combine several of these functions. For example, the A2 Compensator is both a flash hider and a compensator. So, my advice is, just a regular A2 comp/fh will do. The AR has so little recoil to begin with. You certainly don't want to do anything that will increase noise for her. |
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Put a can on it - A Halo is sweet if you don't need the full auto version. |
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http://www.flatlandforge.com/F2AR15Comp.htm The F2 brake. I am told it is the best on the market, better than the JP cooley brake and even better than the JP tank brake, plus it is legal for 3 gun, although that doesn't matter for your application. If you want the best muzzle brake, I beleive that is it. However, like others have said, you have to decide if that is really what you want. You can catch a good discussion on various muzzle brakes here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33381 And stealing some pictures from there ...   "Here is (top to bottom): F2, Triangle Shooting Sports, JP "Cooley", Bang Inc, and a JP "Open". See if you can figure out which one has the most surface area on the baffles for the most effect... See if you can figure out which compensator is tuned for the usual "up and to the right" movement of an AR" Just figured I'd throw this in ... |
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Miculek Comp...........  www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=5573&title=AR-15+MICULEK+COMP |
What about a Levang Linear Comp? www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=5594&title=AR-15+LEVANG+LINEAR+COMPENSATOR |
My 11 year old daughter has shot my AR with a bird cage , Phantom, and the JP Cooley brake. By far she prefers the Cooley brake. The Cooley brake eliminates all muzzle rise and felt recoil significantly. It makes the rifle bush straight back a reduced amount. The majority of increased noise is to the sides, not to the shooter. The Cooley brake must be tuned just fine because there is no "up and to the right" movement. After shooting my Cooley, I don't see the need for the additional length of the F2 brake. |
I'm no physicist, but this looks like it would increase the recoil - and even if it didn't, I can't see any way it can hold the muzzle down - does anyone else? Just curious.... |
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The JP Tank brake (above) is hands down the best, period. Of all the others, the F2 is far and away the best. I own, or have owned, just about all of them. The Izzy and other types (like the Bushy comp) are worthless compared to the above mentioned brakes. Miculik is not bad, but its no F2. Dont own the company...just the rifles they are on. B |
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I have been able to tune my reloads so that my Bushmaster M4 with Mini-Y break has no recoil at all. There was no real reason to do this other than to see if I could. That said, I would not recommend the Mini-Y because of the blast and noise it generates. As other posters have said, the recoil in the .223/.556 cartridge is negligible to begin with and the noise/blast effect that a break creates will probably be more of a problem for a new shooter. |
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