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6/9/2006 3:30:46 PM EDT
  ok, this is my first toppic start and i think im doing this right. i searched and couldent find anything, so... after reading my "book of the AR-15" form G&A like 8 times, i noticed  a number of the articles were written by fortier. who is he whats his rep?  -Wyatt
6/9/2006 3:41:19 PM EDT
[#1]
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?
6/9/2006 3:48:14 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?



Complete dweeb........

[This is too funny]
6/9/2006 3:49:30 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?



6/9/2006 4:01:25 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?




LOL. He has an amazingly fast response time!



I need to go and get the mag on my way home today. Unless he said something bad about my barrels I think he is a great guy....

R


TalonArms.com
6/9/2006 4:03:46 PM EDT
[#5]
gunwritr in ME should be able to tell you allllll about him, probably more than you might imagine. In all seriousness he is one of the best and he is highly respected here. I would love to meet the guy one day, if I lived anywhere close he would be tired of seeing me. SOOO GW How long are we going to let the fish hang for the photo shoot?
6/9/2006 4:12:26 PM EDT
[#6]
I find his articles very refreshing. It's nice that someone in the mainstream mags writes about something other than another "new" 1911.
6/9/2006 4:15:22 PM EDT
[#7]
Seriously, he's probably my most trusted gunwriter, with Peter Kokalis a close second. He's detailed and objective, and has a good grasp of how a particular product fits into the big picture as regards its usefulness, in general, and its competitors, in particular. In other words, his articles provide good information upon which a guy can weigh the pros and cons of a product for his particular use, and make an informed buying decision without feeling like he's been schmoozed by an advertising conflict of interest.

Obviously, I can't know for sure, but he me gives the impression of holding to professional standards of journalism in regards to accurate reporting, objectivity, etc. Some writers I can easily point to specific instances of factual inaccuracies, but not with Fortier. Buy with confidence! ;)

John
6/9/2006 4:16:45 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?



+1 He should be banned, and stuff!  
6/9/2006 4:25:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Give it up Gunwritr!

Seriously Wyatt....One of the guys replying to your question is David Fortier

and BTW....I thoroughly enjoy his work
6/9/2006 4:28:59 PM EDT
[#10]
I hear Gunwritr had to draw down on him in a border dispute!
6/9/2006 4:34:04 PM EDT
[#11]
and he does have a sense of humor
6/9/2006 4:34:40 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Seriously, he's probably my most trusted gunwriter, with Peter Kokalis a close second. He's detailed and objective, and has a good grasp of how a particular product fits into the big picture as regards its usefulness, in general, and its competitors, in particular. In other words, his articles provide good information upon which a guy can weigh the pros and cons of a product for his particular use, and make an informed buying decision without feeling like he's been schmoozed by an advertising conflict of interest.

Obviously, I can't know for sure, but he me gives the impression of holding to professional standards of journalism in regards to accurate reporting, objectivity, etc. Some writers I can easily point to specific instances of factual inaccuracies, but not with Fortier. Buy with confidence! ;)

John



I could not have said it better myself!
6/9/2006 4:39:28 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Seriously, he's probably my most trusted gunwriter, with Peter Kokalis a close second. He's detailed and objective, and has a good grasp of how a particular product fits into the big picture as regards its usefulness, in general, and its competitors, in particular. In other words, his articles provide good information upon which a guy can weigh the pros and cons of a product for his particular use, and make an informed buying decision without feeling like he's been schmoozed by an advertising conflict of interest.

Obviously, I can't know for sure, but he me gives the impression of holding to professional standards of journalism in regards to accurate reporting, objectivity, etc. Some writers I can easily point to specific instances of factual inaccuracies, but not with Fortier. Buy with confidence! ;)

John



Yep, but he no Joe Poyer though..........because Fortier actually knows what the hell he is writing about.
6/9/2006 4:40:10 PM EDT
[#14]
He is one of the few (if not he only) writers for gun rags that are worth a shit.  He ACTUALLY knows what he is writing about.
6/9/2006 4:40:31 PM EDT
[#15]
OMG! It's like that "Three Degrees to Kevin Bacon"  thing,  (without the awkward shower scenes).  
6/9/2006 4:48:02 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?







And welcome aboard WyattT!
6/9/2006 4:55:08 PM EDT
[#17]
So David, I mean, "Wyatt," what do you think of the recent acusations that David is a shameless self-promotion machine?
6/9/2006 5:13:23 PM EDT
[#18]
On spot w/ reports and adds a real shooters view to products and reviews. One of the best!
6/9/2006 5:37:38 PM EDT
[#19]
He writes about military firearms a lot. But has he served in the military as a real user/grunt type? It's one thing to talk/write about the use and values of a weapon but its another to have to hump and use the weapon in adverse/field conditions.
I like the way he got his wife into taking pictures............a little nepotism helps pay the bills.


Sua Sponte,
Prib
6/9/2006 5:43:37 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
He writes about military firearms a lot. But has he served in the military as a real user/grunt type? It's one thing to talk/write about the use and values of a weapon but its another to have to hump and use the weapon in adverse/field conditions.
I like the way he got his wife into taking pictures............a little nepotism helps pay the bills.


Sua Sponte,
Prib





And how many veterans conventions have more 70 year olds show up then there were actually 25 year olds IN the unit.

In my years of reading his fine work, he has never claimed to be a vet, but rather, penned that he was not, but family members had served, and he was very respectful of their service.  

ETA:  Some guys women couldn't make a buck in front of a camera much less behind one.  I remember a saying about throwing rocks and a glass house...  
6/9/2006 6:20:01 PM EDT
[#21]
No glass house here, Nationwide.  I didn't put myself in the position like he did. He submitted articles not me. I don't claim to "know all".

I'm just asking an honest question.

Sua Sponte,
prib
6/9/2006 6:21:22 PM EDT
[#22]
And I'm not name calling.
6/9/2006 6:40:31 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
He writes about military firearms a lot. But has he served in the military as a real user/grunt type? It's one thing to talk/write about the use and values of a weapon but its another to have to hump and use the weapon in adverse/field conditions.
I like the way he got his wife into taking pictures............a little nepotism helps pay the bills.


Sua Sponte,
Prib



In days of old, nepotism might have been enough to keep you on the job, but no more.  Her work is good.  Clean, to the point and well composed.  It may be that working together they achieve better photos then either would working with someone else,  but that does not diminish her ability.   As for having "humped the hump", I have read writers that have a fondness for a weapon or two that may have saved there life at one point dismiss other systems based on that life experience alone.  From what I have seen, Fortier does not exhibit that kind of bias, and as a result, the reviews are among the least bias you'll find.  JMHO
6/9/2006 6:46:25 PM EDT
[#24]
The question for this thread is "reputation".  I didn't call him any names. I pointed to honest questions and fact. I like his articles.

Prib
6/9/2006 7:10:19 PM EDT
[#25]
He is also one of the few writers who doesn't refer to magazines as "clips."
6/9/2006 7:38:41 PM EDT
[#26]
I like to think i have irritated him into no longer filling the articles up with pictures of himself holding the items. Or at least cutting down. I enjoy the articles on some things but i have heard enough about Russian surplus and the 7.62 X54 R round. I also have been wanting to know more about him on here for well over a year now. I like knowing a bit of background on a writer. We know what Ayoob did  we know some background on Boddington etc etc.

Fortier...How about a bit of a bio?
6/9/2006 7:57:18 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted: He writes about military firearms a lot. But has he served in the military as a real user/grunt type?


No, I gather he hasn't served.


Quoted: It's one thing to talk/write about the use and values of a weapon but its another to have to hump and use the weapon in adverse/field conditions.


That's only a problem if he CLAIMS to be something he's not, which he doesn't. He says, "Here's the weapon. Here's the history of the weapon. Here's my experience with the weapon. And here's my conclusion about the weapon." Straight up as far as I'm concerned.

Like any good reporter, if he needs information that he doesn't personally possess, he asks someone who knows. If he wants to know what it's like to use an M249 in combat, he asks someone who's used an M249 in combat. That's reasonable. That's professional. That's all he can do. None of us knows everything. Right? That takes nothing away from the job he does as a gun writer.


Quoted: I like the way he got his wife into taking pictures............a little nepotism helps pay the bills.


I hope you're just engaging in some good-natured razzing, otherwise, that's a little . . . low-class.

John
6/9/2006 8:14:41 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
I like to think i have irritated him into no longer filling the articles up with pictures of himself holding the items. Or at least cutting down. I enjoy the articles on some things but i have heard enough about Russian surplus and the 7.62 X54 R round. I also have been wanting to know more about him on here for well over a year now. I like knowing a bit of background on a writer. We know what Ayoob did  we know some background on Boddington etc etc.

Fortier...How about a bit of a bio?



Blasphemy!

You can never know too much about the 7.62x54r.  I have shot some of that caliber every saturday for six weeks now.

Ignore him David.
6/9/2006 8:14:46 PM EDT
[#29]
I don't care.  He's still a dweeb.....
6/9/2006 8:18:05 PM EDT
[#30]
I like the information that comes out of the articles, good information and not too much opinion, but, could do without so many of the self portraits,

6/9/2006 8:24:22 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm going go +1 in favor of the "action shots".  I know lots of you do this for a living each and every ... but it's just fun diversion for the rest of us.  If I need to know thread pitch on each and every screw I can read Kokalis (sp?).  If I need to tear it down and make it run I'll go to "Small Arms of the World".  But for just fun, I'll take Fortier's articles,  Lots of information, background  and application on what is being covered with out being a dry text.  
6/10/2006 12:32:35 AM EDT
[#32]
Well all the fun in this thread went to shit thanks to rgrprib.

We seriously need to start randomly banning people until that kind of crap stops.
6/10/2006 5:06:09 AM EDT
[#33]
A ban?  Yes comrade, he does not think like us, so let us ban him.

So much for freedom of speech comrade Murdock.

prib
6/10/2006 5:12:57 AM EDT
[#34]
My respect for him has grown as his writting has matured over the years.


I still think he dresses goofy
6/10/2006 5:40:38 AM EDT
[#35]
I like David Fortiers work.  I think the dressing up in pseudo military outfits was just a gimmick to get noticed.  His writing is good and he often writes about stuff thats a little out of the norm. I like that.  I think alot of us are used to Gary Sitton, and guys like that in western or hunting clothes in their photos.  Look at some of the stuff Jack Lewis used to wear in his articles.  He looked like a gay cowboy at times.  Don't even get me started on Mike Venturino and his style of dress.  
6/10/2006 5:41:14 AM EDT
[#36]
One of my good friends landed a job with Guns & Ammo television about a year ago and has become good friends with him.  My bud says he is a good guy in person and is a true gun nut like we all are.
Over the years I have read alot of his stuff and he knows his shit and puts out good informitive articals.

Nuff said
6/10/2006 5:46:08 AM EDT
[#37]
He dresses like Russian soldiers.................and writes very interesting articles
6/10/2006 6:48:23 AM EDT
[#38]
Why do people think Fortier is silly for wearing military clothes, but no one gives Taffin shit for playing cowboy?
6/10/2006 7:02:29 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Why do people think Fortier is silly for wearing military clothes, but no one gives Taffin shit for playing cowboy?


I get the impressin that's the way Taffin dresses for real.

They should just stop photographing Mike Venturino.

"Duke is obviously concerned about contingencies and preparedness. Observe the photo on the bottom of page 59. Duke is wearing suspenders -- and a belt."
6/10/2006 7:19:40 AM EDT
[#40]
I think it is agrred that we all find Venturino to be a enormous geek. He wrote for G&A for what seemed to me at least 20 years and suddenly became  "Duke". It's like he had a breakdown and in order to maintain his sanity the editors call him "Duke" at least 5 times an issue.
6/10/2006 7:27:31 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
A ban?  Yes comrade, he does not think like us, so let us ban him.

So much for freedom of speech comrade Murdock.

prib



You'd probably be more comfortable over at SOCNET.  Over here, we actually allow people who aren't tabbed to have valid opinions.
6/10/2006 7:32:59 AM EDT
[#42]
I do not see the need for a photograph of Fortier posing with the guns he reviews. It is always some stupid pose, like I give a shit. Better to use that space and shows pics of the GUN, not the author posing. If I want to see models posing, I will buy Vicotrias Secret catalogs. But other writers do it to and they are just as stupid. Probably ego or vanity...
6/10/2006 7:35:10 AM EDT
[#43]
David is refreshing. Boddington is boring! "Are we overgunned, Boddington says YES!", "Should you wipe your ass with your right hand, Boddington says YES!" "Should you remove your pants when banging your woman?, Boddington says NO!" He is as tiresome as seeing a 1911 on the cover of every damn gun rag in existance!  Bill T.
6/10/2006 7:41:12 AM EDT
[#44]
He is a pimp for the Russkies and their gear, but once you take that into account, he is pretty good.  Head and shoulders above most of the gun mag writers.
6/10/2006 7:57:44 AM EDT
[#45]
Some suggestions for "gunwritr":

1.  Be critical in your reviews.  You seem to never find anything to criticise in your firearm reviews.  It's hard to take you seriously when everything you touch is perfect.

2.  Stop pushing I.O.R. glass at us.  I appreciate you like their products, but it seems like you are constantly hawking their goods in your articles.

3.  Stop "posing" in uniform for your photos.  Those of us who wear a uniform for a living have a hard time taking advice from "posers".

I admit I have been critical of your work, but I have tried to read your articles and give you a chance.  You do have talent, and you have been blessed with a great job, shooting lots of guns and then writing about it.  You're not one of my favorite gun writers, but you show promise and I'll continue to read what you write.
6/10/2006 8:18:07 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
"Are we overgunned, Boddington says YES!", "Should you wipe your ass with your right hand, Boddington says YES!" "Should you remove your pants when banging your woman?, Boddington says NO!"



6/10/2006 8:26:39 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
From what I've been told, he's a bum.....



yah like the magazine?




 
6/10/2006 8:58:34 AM EDT
[#48]

3. Stop "posing" in uniform for your photos. Those of us who wear a uniform for a living have a hard time taking advice from "posers".


From what I have seen, most of the uniforms he dresses in are defunct warsaw pact era stuff.  What he is 'posing' as no longer exists.  No more posing than a WWII reenactor aor a civil war reenactor.
6/10/2006 9:23:22 AM EDT
[#49]
ok, thanks. i remember someone having complaints a while ago and did not see any flagrant violations of the obvious "clips" ect. i liked the magazine.... now i want a POF upper, only in 5.56. thnks for the info
6/10/2006 9:26:23 AM EDT
[#50]
He sometimes get way too tech for me and goes off on a tangent about some ballistic stuff. And he definitely has his favorite companies/products he always mentions.
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