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4/13/2006 9:35:13 AM EDT
hey everyone, at work today, one of the detectives brought in his Patrolman's carbine that he keeps in his trunk.  He wanted me to look at his trigger as it has rust on it.  I have snapped pics and would like some input on:
1. is it harmful (does anyone else have this on their trigger and it is fine?)
2. What is causing it
3. How can he prevent it.

It is in a soft sided black carrying case (like an uncle Mike's) but there is no name brand on it.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/bobafett126/Picture002.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/bobafett126/Picture001.jpg


any input would be appreciated, thank you for looking!

eta: tried making the pics bigger
4/13/2006 9:43:35 AM EDT
[#1]
Pics need to be bigger to see what your talking about. Is there wear on the finish of the trigger?
4/13/2006 9:43:55 AM EDT
[#2]
He could start taking care of his weapon for a start.  Without knowing the overall condition of the weapon, and looking over the insides, there is no way anyone here can make a call on this.  If he is allowing his weapon to rust, the entire weapon should be broken down and gone over.

Rust is harmful, it can be prevented by basic care through routine cleaning and lube of his weapon.


ETA- Your department armorer or range staff should be taking care of this issue.
4/13/2006 9:44:25 AM EDT
[#3]
Being from the Pacific NW myself I know that it can be a very damp environment.  

1. Is it harmful: Over time it can cause pitting

2. What's causing it?:  In short oxidization (just kidding)

3. Oil it, and properly store it.  
4/13/2006 9:50:18 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
1. is it harmful (does anyone else have this on their trigger and it is fine?)


Not if he cleans it off.


2. What is causing it

Water.

To be specific.  Keeping the firearm in a sealed container that most likely is using open cell foam (which retains moisture), and not treating the weapon correctly.


3. How can he prevent it.


1) Oil the damn rifle.  CLP is the best at preventing rust.  A little goes a long way.  For the trigger he can use a q-tip and put a light coating on the rifle.

2) Get a better method of storing the rifle.  Either a decent case with closed cell foam (if the current one is open cell) or a decent hard case with closed cell foam.

But the most important thing is to periodically inspect and clean the firearm with CLP.  Most especailly the steel parts.  The -10 (downloadable from this site for free) has directions on places to lube.

BTW I'd also check the barrel under the handguards.
4/13/2006 9:53:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks guys, I'll try to post some bigger pics. looks like I reduced too much in photobucket!

Stickman, thank you for your input.  I am sad to say that I am a Firearms Instructor and Glock armorer for my agency and have put in for the Colt armorer's course but have been refused each time, eventhough we have 5 DRMO A-1's.  (It all boils down to available money in the training fund unfortunately) I am totally open to any input or direction you may have via IM or otherwise.

again, thanks to everyone for their help here.

4/13/2006 10:03:58 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Thanks guys, I'll try to post some bigger pics. looks like I reduced too much in photobucket!



The pictures certainly show much better now.  You need to get the weapon and pull it apart.  The FCG probably looks like the trigger, the BCG may not be looking too great, under the handguards are probably rusted, and I would guess the FSB looks similar to the trigger.

Are you part of your department range staff, or is this just a friend who brought it to you because he is afraid the range Sgt will tell him he is an idiot?
4/13/2006 10:13:53 AM EDT
[#7]
Stickman,

I'm one of 2 here on the range staff and neither of us has been approved to go to Colt Armorer's.  If you want to IM me some detailed steps to take I am  more than willing to listen!
Thanks!
4/13/2006 10:56:51 AM EDT
[#8]
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/bobafett126/Picture004.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/bobafett126/Picture003.jpg

the rest of the rifle is in great shape, I don't believe it has been shot very much.  Here are some pics to look at.
4/13/2006 11:05:08 AM EDT
[#9]
CLP and an old toothbrush are his friends.  He might want to try some Bullfrog VCI products in his carry case also.
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