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12/13/2005 10:22:16 AM EDT
What model(s) of Colt's should I be looking for that have all the correct pins, pin hole sizes, no sear block, etc? Specifically in the A1 flavor?

12/13/2005 10:37:44 AM EDT
[#1]
Well, I didnt think they existed at all....  but from reading:

www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/coltcolors.html


The "White" label is a rare model. When Colt was having deep financial problems in the late 80’s, they had lost the M16A2 contract to FN, they had a lot of parts left over from their DOD contract’s. They started producing a limited run of "combo" labels, if that is an appropriate term, that had Blue label AND Green label features. These are what are known as "White" label guns. They supposedly shipped with a white tag/ id label that separated them from their earlier green label cousins. I remember reading an American Rifleman magazine, from 1990/91?, that had an article about one. The story writer/editor wanted to have a bayonet lug put on his AR15. It had a "semi" M16 production line lower, small front take down screw/pin, standard diameter fire control pins but lacked the bayolug. The white labels are pre blue label but post green label. They start in 1989 and seem to be made for less than a year. Colt has stuck with the Blue label now for 10 years."



So it appears these few ghosts are out there....   never seen one.  Good luck finding one.  Everything else they made is bastardized in one way or another.
12/13/2005 10:43:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Your title indicates you are looking for a lower, but you mention A1.... are you looking for a stripped lower, assembled lower, or complete weapon?
12/13/2005 10:51:39 AM EDT
[#3]
A semi Colt lower with standard pins & takedowns is downright dreamy.
12/13/2005 10:57:24 AM EDT
[#4]
I am sure some of the more experienced members can answer this more accurately than I , but I will try.

I do not think Colt ever released a civilian A1 type lower.  All Colt lowers on civilian arms were either the so called "slick side" without pivot pin detent boss or the magazine release boss, or the newer A2 style.  Of the slick side ones, many of them have normal trigger group pins but large pivot pins.  Later there were A2 versions with the pivot pin and magazine release bosses and reinforced areas around the pivot pin and receiver extension areas, and these could either have the large pivot pin and small trigger group pins, or the small pivot pin and and oversized trigger group pins.  They could either have no sear block, a steel sear block, or more recently not have the sear area machined at all.  Hope this helps, and hope I got it right.

Greg
12/13/2005 11:04:27 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Your title indicates you are looking for a lower, but you mention A1.... are you looking for a stripped lower, assembled lower, or complete weapon?



Actually, I'm more interested in a lower; stripped or not. To a lesser extent, I am interested in the different features of the different models. Does anyone have cross-referenced chart that lists this?
12/13/2005 11:05:37 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Does anyone have cross-referenced chart that lists this?



Did you see the link I posted?
12/13/2005 11:44:10 AM EDT
[#7]
Doh!
12/13/2005 2:04:26 PM EDT
[#8]
OK, As a follow-up, what models would I be looking for that are A1-style? Or is that a year or color-based issue again?

ETA: Nevermind. Seems I asked this question before and got no joy.
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