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6/1/2005 4:16:49 PM EDT
How many rounds can I fire before I need to replace my bolt? The reason I'm asking is because my extractor broke after firing approximately 10000 rounds of  steel cased ammo. When I went to the gun store last week to buy a new extractor the guy at the store said if it had that many rounds through it the bolt needed to be repaced. Is he right or insane?
6/1/2005 4:21:36 PM EDT
[#1]
I dunno, but I'd like the answer too.


6/1/2005 4:38:32 PM EDT
[#2]
I would also like to know. One of my ARs has approx. 11,000 rnds through it and so far no problems.
6/1/2005 4:43:28 PM EDT
[#3]
I doubt that the gun store guy knew what he was talking about.  Extractors are easy to replace, and have no affect on headspace.  Bolts, on the other hand, are the critical link in setting your headspace, so you shouldn't mess with them if you don't need to.

Are there any visible flaws in your bolt?  Does it bind?  Any burrs or gouges?  How does the fillet at the base of each locking lug look?

I'll bet that it's just fine.  GI rifles go through way more than 10k rounds on a regular basis without needing any major parts replaced.
6/1/2005 5:28:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Find someone with gauges if you are concerned, but 10k is nothing.
6/1/2005 5:41:58 PM EDT
[#5]
There are rifles on here that have more on them than that. I think he was either trying to sell parts, or pretend that he could inform you on something you didn't already know.

Besides, I think it would depend on the individual bolt itself. Some from Model 1 have broken lugs fairly early, others can go more than 20,000rds without a problem.

Just inspect yours and makes sure it's in good condition, and you should be fine.

WIZZO
6/2/2005 4:37:14 AM EDT
[#6]
inspect the bolt, if you dont see any cracks or other reason to replace it then just throw in another extractor and keep going
6/2/2005 6:31:56 AM EDT
[#7]
In preparation for a match while in the military, I fired 17,000 rounds from the same M-16 in one summer.  No problems.

Dan C
6/2/2005 6:48:49 AM EDT
[#8]
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
6/2/2005 7:29:39 AM EDT
[#9]

+1

I've got a Colt B/C that I bought brand new and have put in the neighborhood of 750-1k rounds through as a rough estimate.  One of the carrier screws sheared off the shoot before last, and this past shoot I found a mangled gas ring.  Arg.
6/2/2005 11:10:19 AM EDT
[#10]
I think it depends a lot on the firing schedule... one of the local ranges does heavy duty testing using M4A1s exclusively on full-auto and they report broken bolts or lugs are not uncommon by the 7-10k mark. At the same time, I see ARs with bolts that have gone twice that and are still headspacing OK.

I think a lot of it depends on heat, gas pressure and cyclic rate. All three of these are higher in carbine length gas systems than they are in rifles, so the problem crops up sooner in the shorter gas systems.
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