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Posted: 4/12/2005 12:14:21 PM EDT
| Is there a trigger that is reliable and solid that I can use to replace the stock trigger on my M4gery. I'm talking something that would hold up to a carbine class without issues. I hate the stock trigger. After shooting my target AR with the RRA two stage the stock trigger feels like pulling rusty nails out of a board is part of it's function. Just wondering if there is a good replacement that isn't fragile or can get out of adjustment? |
The only trigger aftermarket trigger I would consider would be a drop in Chip McCormick. You'll get a nice smooth trigger and I don't think you're giving up much in reliability. |
| There was a recent thread about the JP trigger/hammer combos. They do require minor fitting, but the fitting is really simple. If you use red (271) Loctite on the two setscrews, you won't need to be concerned about their working loose. I have several thousand rounds on my Bushy Shorty that's equipped with a JP trigger/hammer. Short reset; 3# trigger pull; no creep; no overtravel; single stage. |
| I have an Accuracy Speaks trigger in my carbine and so far love it. The AS trigger group requires minor fitting and took me 30 min to complete. The trigger is excellent with a short and crisp 3.5 - 4lbs pull. There are no adjustment screws to come loose. I feel that this trigger is as reliable as a factory trigger but has all of the advantages of a single stage match trigger. |
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Chip McCormick single stage, awsome, smooth and tough with those steel bushings for pin location. This is one of the best triggers and I have tried them all, well sell a ton of RRA and Chips, both excellent, RRA is cheaper for two stage, Chip rules in the single stage world..Creep is minimal, disconnectors set perfectly. I have converted most of my personnel ones to them. I offer a 100% satisfaction on them or full refund. Robert www.rbprecision.com |
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The word "reliability" implies, by its very nature, Accuracy Speaks. The AS unit is basically a stock unit but with improved geometry. It does require some patience to fit up but, the instructions are crystal clear. It will not give you the absolutely perfect release that some of the adjustables (notably JP) will but, it's a VAST inprovement over stock. And it will still be functioning perfectly when your great, great grandchildren inherit your rifle some tens of thousands of rounds from now. Luck, SD |
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If you want reliable, DON'T get a Bushmaster adjustable match trigger. Mine just went out, after maybe 2000 rounds. I probably just need to re-adjust the set screws, but it ruined a day of shooting with some buddies (no tools with us), and it could have meant a lot worse if TSHTF.... My other ARs have a RRA 2-stage and a stock bushy trigger. The match trigger is about to get swapped out for a stock trigger. BTW- I LOVED it while it was working!! |
When we say "fitting" what are we talking about? A little filing or what? |
No you cant shoot faster aimed shots or double taps with a single stage trigger. Hosing with no regard to shot placement? Bump firing? Yes the single stage is faster there but who cares about such things? A human can not reaquire a sight picture and fire again before reseting a 2 stage, therefore it is not slower. |
Check out this: This is the JP Enterprises modular trigger unit. It's different than their trigger kit (which I have and adore!) as there's no fitting or tuning involved (not that the fitting and tuning was a big deal; it took me 45 minutes to install my trigger kit). With this, you drop and go. If you'd like to save some $$ and still have an incredible trigger, you can go with the trigger kit instead. The directions come on both paper and a CD-ROM with movies to show what to do, so you're helped out every step of the way. Go to this link, then scoll down the page. |
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