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Posted: 4/6/2005 5:23:57 PM EDT
| I sent Colt a request for an "Archive Letter" on my father's Colt SP1 (1967 model) because his name is stamped in the right lower receiver and I wanted to verify is was factory stamped. I sent them $100.00 (WOW, Smith and Wesson is only $35.00, received in 3 weeks) and received a post card today advising me that currently the delivery time for the letter is 120-150 days. Kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth especially since they deposited my check. |
over priced info to go with over priced ARs
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You obviously wanted the letter and were aware of the cost. If you don't want to wait call them and cancel, you'll get your money back. Or is it easier to post on this forum and whine about your decision, knowing that you'll cause all of the morons who just look for any opportunity to bash Colt to come crawling out from under their rocks and join you in your pitiful little tantrum? |
And to think......you wasted post #556 on insulting someone.  WIZZO |
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<Bette Midler>...You are the wiiinnnnd beneath my wings...</Bette Midler> Tag, just to see how this thread shakes out 
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Is this so? or is there sarcasm in your post? Even if I had not read your info, I would have said to to the original poster, that months would not be an unreasonable expectation. Consider that the archive service is a detailed documentation that is ultimately offered in a formal certificate of authenticity and delivered as a legal document. There are steps, there are qualifications, and to be absolutely certain, each and every submission is treated like a special project It was made popular by the upsurge in collector values of single action army pistols. These now draw 1,000's and this certification could be the difference in a $50 POS, and a genuine SAA worth 10's of thousands. If you want an email telling you mfgr date: don't go the route you did. They will tell you that on the phone. so will Winchester, Browning, Remington, and likely all the other established makers. We now live in a world of instant gratification, and tend to bitch about anything less than "Right Now".
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| My post was not an attempt to bash Colt. I was just sharing my experience in requesting verification of my fathers name being stamped in the lower receiver. I think sharing information such as this may be helpful to any other member comtemplating requesting an Archive letter. I already know the rifle was made in 1967 and and according to the Archive services price list it appears they only offer phone service for 1st and 2nd generation SA revolvers and there is a charge. I was just surprised it will take so long especially when there is no mention on their Archive services web page of lead time. By the way, S&W's charge was $30.00, not $35.00. |
I did'nt see that as an insult, I see it for what it is Your comment, I see as one of those Colt haters crawling out from under their rock, just putting it more towards someone else and not Colt directly  18 huh?.... and it shows |
And I'll waste post #557 insulting you! Who the fuck do you think you are, the post number monitor? right back at ya!
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not to sound "insensitive" but why make such a big deal about it whether it's stamped by colt, or not? if your dad told you it was, shouldn't that be enough......or don't you trust your father? |
| My Dad died over 30 years ago, I never had the chance to ask him who stamped his name on the gun. I was not even aware he had a SP1 until after he died. He was an avid firearm collector and displayed some of his firearms in his office but kept many in his business walk in safe. The other reason I would like to know is I have been told by a gunsmith/dealer/appraiser that has been doing estate and insurance appraisals for over 40 years that it could greatly influence the value. Maybe its my age, almost 60, but all I was trying to do is share information with the forum members that could be helpful at some point in time. I belong to many other forums including 8 other firearm related forums and I have never encountered the negativity that I have experienced here, This is a great site and I would like to feel I could share information concerning these amazing pieces of machinery without hurting the feelings of some of the members, that is not my intent.. |
Colt sucks!!!!! 
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Don't sweat it, and don't let a few negative comments bother you. Most on the site welcome your questions and input. |
All it takes here is the mere mention of Colt and the payless shoe shoppers come out of the wood work to bash them. People think just because another product is cheaper Colt is way over priced and not civilian consumer friendly, I'm a firm believer in the fact that you get what you pay for. Happens EVERY time Colt comes up sorry to hear the letter will take so long but it will be worth it |
Yeah, what WalkerTexasRanger said. |
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Two posts. The first one focuses on the cost of the letter and the length of time to get that letter. The reason given is that your father's name is on the receiver. The second one sounds like a post-hoc "explanation" of the first post. How would your post "be helpful"? The prices are posted on Colt's site for all to see. The only information of value that might not be readily accessible is the time to get the letter. If you were really interested in sharing information, you would have called Colt and gotten more information (such as the archivist has been out for three months because of surgery), and you would not have focused on the cost of the service. You also would have discussed the sentimental value of the rifle and the curiousity in learning about your father. But that's not how you wrote that first post, is it? |
| No Offense, but I wouldn't care who stamped my fathers name on it. But I sure as hell would honor it being that it was my fathers and marked as his. Now that I think about it it would be nice to have the letter stating such. BUT..........I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see some pics!!! |
Glad it was genuine, as there are so many C-bashers here that it is hard to tell one thought from another. and I wasn't calling you out crsbar, but glad you offered some real information on the subject. If you did a basic search here, you would find that I have been one of the few sentries left at the gate, and doing my best to keep the Indians at bay, and prevent the movement from over-running the fort!! while the authentication/archive service is a worthwhile service, I think it is intended to help place some point of reference for the red-hot SAA collector sub-industry. There are literally 10's of thousands of dollars at stake in these certifications I believe you can get a simple manufacture date from Customer Service- which the original poster may find enough to satisfy his curiosity. I doubt he will be selling his Dad's original SP-1, but if he did perhaps he could have the prospective buyer jump thru the formalities of the archive service Just a thought and again.... thanks crsbar |
LOL. Colt doesn't need anyone to defend them. Thier followers will always be loyal. |
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It strikes me that Colt would provide better customer service by explaining up front the kind of lead time necessary for an archive investigation. This is not a knock, just a suggestion. Letting the customer know that you're going to have to spend some time on a job is much better than letting him wonder if you've just ignored him. This applies to requests for information from ANY firm you do business with, and it's something that a whole lot of firms don't understand. If you publish the price list, you should also publish how long a job can take, plain and simple. That said, it really isn't Colt's place to publicize that their archivist is having personal health issues-I certainly wouldn't want MY personal health issues published this way. |
someone has something up there hindquarters... 
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I bet its a colt |
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"That said, it really isn't Colt's place to publicize that their archivist is having personal health issues-I certainly wouldn't want MY personal health issues published this way." First off I did not "publish" her medical issues and I do not work for Colt. You want to sit and say how terrible Colt's service is but when a explanation is given you say this. So I guess there is just no reason Colt should not have any lead time at all on this work and no excuse will do. I only offered the reason for the original posts concern, hopefully he is satisfied and will remain patient. This certainly discoureges anyone from coming on this board to offer insight into some of these questions or as usual accusations. |
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