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11/14/2004 1:52:49 PM EDT
Post pictures of your SBR's. I am thinking of getting one and would like to see the different configurations out there and am sure others would too. Thanks!
11/14/2004 2:05:34 PM EDT
[#1]


11/14/2004 2:18:55 PM EDT
[#2]

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01444.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01440.jpg



That gun ROCKS!!! Sweeeeet camo!  I'd love to see a pic of it with the stock collapsed.
11/14/2004 2:23:49 PM EDT
[#3]
Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

11/14/2004 2:25:22 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!




WOW!!  Damn near pocket sized.

NOTE TO SELF:  Move out of MI so you can have a toy like that.
11/14/2004 2:31:55 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jason280/DSC00149_038.jpg



WOW!!  Damn near pocket sized.

NOTE TO SELF:  Move out of MI so you can have a toy like that.



MG - machine gun
SI - sound suppressor (silencer)
SR - short barreled rifle
SG - short shotgun
AOW - any other weapon
LBDD - large bore destructive device
EXPDD - explosive, incendiary or poison gas destructive device


STATEMG SI  SR   SG   AOWLBDD  EXPDD  Comments

AK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
AL  Y   Y   N    N    Y  Y    ?
AR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (state registration of pistol cal. MG's over .30)
AZ  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
CA  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires discretionary and rarely issued permit for mg, lbdd or expdd from state Dept. of
                                 Justice; no AOW pen guns; C&R sg, sr only)
CO  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires state explosives permit for expdd)
CT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (no select fire mg's-full auto's only, after 1993 assault weapon ban, state registration of
                                 mg's)
DE  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   (no smooth bore pistol AOW's)
FL  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
GA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
HI  N   N   N    N    N  N    N  
IA  N   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (only si, sr, sg, lbdd and expdd designated as collector's items by the Comm'r of Public
                                 Safety - they use the ATF C&R list)
ID  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
IL  N   N   N    N    Y  ?    N
IN  Y   Y   Y    N    Y  Y    N
KS  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   DEWAT machine guns are OK.
KY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
LA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (mg's require a permit to purchase - war relics only; mg's, sr, si, sg and some expdd's
                                 require a permit to purchase)
MA  Y   N   Y    N    N  Y    N   (license for mg's required; 1998 law bans covert firearms (AOW's), short shotguns)
MD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N   (mg's must be registered)
ME  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
MI  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (FFL needed to own machine guns; no incendiary expdd; C&R sr, sg only)MN  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (C&R mg, sg only, registration required)
MO  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (C&R mg, sr, sg only to non-FFL holders; FFL holders (including C&R) any mg, sr, sg)
MS  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (as of 7/1/00, silencers are legal, but must be registered with the state)
MT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (state law banning silencers and requiring pistol cal. mg's over .30 be registered with state
                                 repealed 4/23/99)
NE  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
NC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (sheriff's permit required for mg's; must be FFL holder (including C&R) for mg, si, sr, sg
                                 lbdd and expdd, or fall into another exception, see comments below)
ND  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (fed. "licensees" required to register all NFA weapons with state when possessed for
                                 "protection or sale")
NH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NJ  Y   N   N    N    Y  N    N   (mg requires discretionary and rarely issued permit from state court)
NM  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NY  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    N   (AOW smooth bore handguns are allowed, on a state pistol license)
OH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
PA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
RI  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    ?
SC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   In 2001, S.C. law was changed to permit all Federally registered items  
SD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
TN  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
TX  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
UT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
VA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (state registration of all mg's)
VT  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
WA  N   Y   N    N    Y  Y    N   (silencer may not be used on a gun)
WI  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (permit required for expdd, no incendiary expdd's; no pistol caliber mg's w/o permit)
WV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
WY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
 ------------------------------------------------------------

I guess only c@r short barrels  oh well
11/14/2004 2:33:13 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

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Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jason280/DSC00149_038.jpg



WOW!!  Damn near pocket sized.

NOTE TO SELF:  Move out of MI so you can have a toy like that.



MG - machine gun
SI - sound suppressor (silencer)
SR - short barreled rifle
SG - short shotgun
AOW - any other weapon
LBDD - large bore destructive device
EXPDD - explosive, incendiary or poison gas destructive device


STATEMG SI  SR   SG   AOWLBDD  EXPDD  Comments

AK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
AL  Y   Y   N    N    Y  Y    ?
AR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (state registration of pistol cal. MG's over .30)
AZ  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
CA  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires discretionary and rarely issued permit for mg, lbdd or expdd from state Dept. of
                                 Justice; no AOW pen guns; C&R sg, sr only)
CO  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires state explosives permit for expdd)
CT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (no select fire mg's-full auto's only, after 1993 assault weapon ban, state registration of
                                 mg's)
DE  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   (no smooth bore pistol AOW's)
FL  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
GA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
HI  N   N   N    N    N  N    N  
IA  N   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (only si, sr, sg, lbdd and expdd designated as collector's items by the Comm'r of Public
                                 Safety - they use the ATF C&R list)
ID  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
IL  N   N   N    N    Y  ?    N
IN  Y   Y   Y    N    Y  Y    N
KS  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   DEWAT machine guns are OK.
KY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
LA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (mg's require a permit to purchase - war relics only; mg's, sr, si, sg and some expdd's
                                 require a permit to purchase)
MA  Y   N   Y    N    N  Y    N   (license for mg's required; 1998 law bans covert firearms (AOW's), short shotguns)
MD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N   (mg's must be registered)
ME  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
MI  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (FFL needed to own machine guns; no incendiary expdd; C&R sr, sg only)MN  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (C&R mg, sg only, registration required)
MO  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (C&R mg, sr, sg only to non-FFL holders; FFL holders (including C&R) any mg, sr, sg)
MS  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (as of 7/1/00, silencers are legal, but must be registered with the state)
MT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (state law banning silencers and requiring pistol cal. mg's over .30 be registered with state
                                 repealed 4/23/99)
NE  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
NC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (sheriff's permit required for mg's; must be FFL holder (including C&R) for mg, si, sr, sg
                                 lbdd and expdd, or fall into another exception, see comments below)
ND  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (fed. "licensees" required to register all NFA weapons with state when possessed for
                                 "protection or sale")
NH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NJ  Y   N   N    N    Y  N    N   (mg requires discretionary and rarely issued permit from state court)
NM  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NY  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    N   (AOW smooth bore handguns are allowed, on a state pistol license)
OH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
PA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
RI  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    ?
SC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   In 2001, S.C. law was changed to permit all Federally registered items  
SD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
TN  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
TX  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
UT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
VA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (state registration of all mg's)
VT  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
WA  N   Y   N    N    Y  Y    N   (silencer may not be used on a gun)
WI  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (permit required for expdd, no incendiary expdd's; no pistol caliber mg's w/o permit)
WV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
WY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
 ------------------------------------------------------------




WTF!!!!

Edited to add:

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I get it now, the state by state SBR chart.
11/14/2004 2:34:08 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jason280/DSC00149_038.jpg



Is the fireball so much that it would blind you if used in-doors at nights?
11/14/2004 2:36:21 PM EDT
[#8]
what was the list for?

We know C&R MG's are allowed. SBR's are not though unless classified as a C&R
11/14/2004 2:41:57 PM EDT
[#9]
Sweet I can have all kinds of goodies in WV.

Anyways is that a TDI pistol grip on that?
11/14/2004 2:47:16 PM EDT
[#10]

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01444.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01440.jpg



That gun ROCKS!!! Sweeeeet camo!  I'd love to see a pic of it with the stock collapsed.




11/14/2004 2:55:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Geeez . . . I thought I wanted an 11.5" before, but now I think I NEED one. Those look good.  At what ranges do you usually use em' ? What effect (on the target) ?
11/14/2004 3:04:00 PM EDT
[#12]

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01444.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01440.jpg



That gun ROCKS!!! Sweeeeet camo!  I'd love to see a pic of it with the stock collapsed.


img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC01457.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/jsinz/DSC00855.jpg



Super Cool!
Thx
Action Jackson
11/14/2004 3:04:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Also, up to what range is 5.56 effective out of the 11.5?
11/14/2004 3:08:03 PM EDT
[#14]
11/14/2004 3:27:20 PM EDT
[#15]
Geeze this hobby is going to get expensive. These rifles are awesome.
11/14/2004 3:50:47 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jason280/DSC00149_038.jpg



Is the fireball so much that it would blind you if used in-doors at nights?



Depends on the ammo.   M193 is pretty nasty out of it.  We once made our on "light show" by putting the upper on a friend's RR and shooting it in a pitch black range.  It was amazing.  30 rounds later, and I couldn't see shit!  Wolf and PMC isn't as bad, but still makes a nasty flame in the dark.  Haven't tried it with a better FH (like Vortex or Phantom), as they might help considerably.  Not the best home defense weapon, but still cool as hell.  Maybe the flame could burn the burglar!!
11/14/2004 3:58:38 PM EDT
[#17]
What practical role does an SBR AR chambered in 5.56 serve?
11/14/2004 4:26:33 PM EDT
[#18]

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What practical role does an SBR AR chambered in 5.56 serve?



The gun is very concealable, and makes an excellent entry weapon.  Also great as vehicle gun, and is very manueverable(sp?).
11/14/2004 5:42:45 PM EDT
[#19]

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What practical role does an SBR AR chambered in 5.56 serve?



The gun is very concealable, and makes an excellent entry weapon.  Also great as vehicle gun, and is very manueverable(sp?).





Plus, Hollow points fragment in wall board and don't over penetrate like some handgun rounds and will still defeat body-armored drug runners.  More accurate than a hand gun, shoots further, 30 rds in a single mag.....hug.gif
11/14/2004 5:48:38 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
What practical role does an SBR AR chambered in 5.56 serve?


Put's holes in what you aim it at.

Ammunition performance in M193 at ranges greater than 50m leaves something to be desired, however hornady TAP ammo seems to work pretty good in them.
11/14/2004 5:53:46 PM EDT
[#21]
9mm SBR


11.5" SBR


14.5" SBR
11/14/2004 6:04:18 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
What practical role does an SBR AR chambered in 5.56 serve?



Entry gun.
11/14/2004 6:13:07 PM EDT
[#23]
My Colt 9mm....

11/14/2004 7:01:21 PM EDT
[#24]
Cool guns.  I'm thinking about doing this as well and was reading in the FAQ that you have to engrave your name and residence on the receiver.  Are any of these guns engraved??
11/14/2004 7:47:57 PM EDT
[#25]
What kind of upper is that 9mm? and where did you get it at?
11/14/2004 7:54:53 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Cool guns.  I'm thinking about doing this as well and was reading in the FAQ that you have to engrave your name and residence on the receiver.  Are any of these guns engraved??



My friend has a SBR (which I have a hard on for as well) and he doesn't have anything like that engraved on the receiver. He's a Class II manufacturer so maybe he plays by different rules though.

I agree these are some just straight up badass ARs. I think the gas tube has to be wrapped around the barrel or some crazy design has to be made in order for it to function correctly. I'm sure one of the guys could chime in.


My question for you lucky fellas, do you just register the receiver, pay $200 and then you're good to go? What if I take this weapon out to the range, do I have to carry any kind of rediculous papers?

Thanks!
11/14/2004 8:13:15 PM EDT
[#27]
Still waiting on F-troop for my form 1.  I'll post pics if they ever decide to approve me.
11/15/2004 4:20:58 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
What kind of upper is that 9mm? and where did you get it at?



If you're talking about my 9mm, it's a factory Colt gun.  The only difference is the add-ons: Aimpoint and mount, and the SWR suppressor.
11/15/2004 6:42:46 AM EDT
[#29]
7.62x39

7.5" 5.56


11/15/2004 7:44:55 AM EDT
[#30]


A1 and M4



M4 with SOPMOD Buttstock



XM607, Buttstock retracted



XM601, Buttstock extended



A2
11/15/2004 8:54:51 AM EDT
[#31]
Where did you get the SB 7.62x39 stuff?
11/15/2004 8:57:48 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
www.fototime.com/87120511D8BCF42/standard.jpg

A1 and M4

www.fototime.com/03F8AF1F2B20343/standard.jpg

M4 with SOPMOD Buttstock

www.fototime.com/0FCC75AD0D66D95/standard.jpg

XM607, Buttstock retracted

www.fototime.com/67D5C1819C7EB31/standard.jpg

XM601, Buttstock extended

www.fototime.com/AA2BB8713AB5C51/standard.jpg

A2




Wow - nice collection!
Love the A1 - did you modify the HG or did you purchase them as a shorty?
What kinda barrels are you running on those ? any reliability issues?
11/15/2004 9:24:45 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
7.62x39
www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/135M430-med.jpg
7.5" 5.56






sweet 7.5".  Did you have to do anything special to get it to run well?  This is almost exactly what I'm going to do once my tax stamp arrives so any insight/tips you have would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeff
11/15/2004 10:12:47 AM EDT
[#34]
Jeff,
It's a DPMS KittyKat® upper from CMMG.  Snaps right on the lower, runs 100%.  No f#@king around needed.

SickMAK90, it's a Model "1" Sales 11.5"  7.62x39 upper.
11/15/2004 1:14:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote from BravoCompany USA:


Wow - nice collection!
Love the A1 - did you modify the HG or did you purchase them as a shorty?
What kinda barrels are you running on those ? any reliability issues?



Thank you, sir.

The A1 at the top has the original Colt carbine handguards and has a pre-ban Bushmaster barrel.  The bayonet lug has since been shaved off.  It also has the flat slip-ring instead of the delta. handguards, slip ring, and barrel courtesy Billbo from EE.

The M4 is LMT and is stock and came from Wes at MSTN

The A2 is an RRA M4 barrel that I got here from pale_pony from EE.

The XMs are both Colts, One was a post-ban HBAR, the other post-ban lightweight.  Buttstocks, triangular handguards, three-prong duck-bill and XM non-NFA moderator courtesy of WA Tom at Total Silence, Inc.

Except for the LMT, all barrels were chopped, shaved, threaded, profiled (the HBARS to lightweight), and the gas ports opened to 0.093" by ADCO.

100% reliability.  The M4 has the LMT enhanced bolt with McFarland gas rings.  The others also have McFarland gas rings, Wolff extractor springs, D-fenders, and I'm running them with "H" buffers.  The 601 is actually the most fun to shoot and the three-prong flash suppressor is surprisingly efficient and attracts the most attention at the range, where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone with a tricked-out M4...
11/19/2004 1:30:06 PM EDT
[#36]
AR 9mm with 9.5" 3-lug:


And posing with my other 9mm shorty:
11/19/2004 1:39:35 PM EDT
[#37]
I think I will play along also.


11/19/2004 1:57:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Here are the three of my SBRed arfs so far.



On the left is an old 11.5-inch Bushmaster, center is a 10-inch Colt 9mm lightweight, and on the right is a 10-inch Colt with a Gemtech M4-96C suppressor. I’m hoping to build two more arf SBRs, one would be an 11.5-inch Colt lightweight 223 and the other would be a 10-inch LMT flattop with what understand to be a cut down M4 countour barrel. Then there’s also the Krinks that I need, but that gets into the dark world of the AK; for another time.
11/19/2004 2:02:51 PM EDT
[#39]
It’s not an arf, but if you really want to rattle your teeth, an 11-inch FAL will work just fine.



11/19/2004 2:13:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Y'all make me very jealous and somewhat sad.  No SBR/SBS allowed in Alabama.

It's not all bad - we can have F/A and suppression, just not the short barrels.  We try to pass a new law repealing that prohibition every year, but our State House still has a slight Democrat majority (hold-over from the days of the Dixiecrats) and until that changes it wil never see the light of day...

But for this archaic law, 'Bama is otherwise a very gun-friendly state.  Enjoy 'em for us, guys!
11/19/2004 2:27:48 PM EDT
[#41]

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I think the gas tube has to be wrapped around the barrel or some crazy design has to be made in order for it to function correctly. I'm sure one of the guys could chime in.


None of my rifles have one of those wrap around gas tubes, they all work just fine. The suppressed 10-inch does have a smaller gas port in the barrel to run dedicated suppressed. If you take the can off, the weapon will not cycle, it is designed to run only with the can on. The 11.5-inch bushmaster is just straight up what Bushmaster sells, that’s the mule, it’s had right at 9000 rounds through it.



My question for you lucky fellas, do you just register the receiver, pay $200 and then you're good to go? What if I take this weapon out to the range, do I have to carry any kind of rediculous papers?


Just follow the directions for the Form 1 and send it all off with your check for $200 and wait. Any time any of my weapons leave the safe, there’s paperwork going along too. I just keep a copy of everything in my range bag and also a copy of things in any case that might be used to transport the weapon, also keep a copy in the safe, the originals stay in the bank.    
11/19/2004 2:51:10 PM EDT
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It’s not an arf, but if you really want to rattle your teeth, an 11-inch FAL will work just fine.

img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/ripper11/FAL/e265fa80.jpg





Wow! What did you have to do to the gas system to get that thing to run reliably?
11/19/2004 3:21:23 PM EDT
[#43]

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It’s not an arf, but if you really want to rattle your teeth, an 11-inch FAL will work just fine.

img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/ripper11/FAL/e265fa80.jpg





That kicks all kinds of ass right there.
11/19/2004 7:11:34 PM EDT
[#44]

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Wow! What did you have to do to the gas system to get that thing to run reliably?


It’s got a big hole in the top of that barrel! The gas doesn’t get adjusted much, the bypass stays closed for the most part. With the right ammo though (Talon remanufactured), it’ll throw a flame the size of a trash can.

Thanks for the kind words Spade
11/19/2004 7:21:27 PM EDT
[#45]
Oustanding!
11/19/2004 7:39:18 PM EDT
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11/20/2004 6:06:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Wow. I think that may be the most valuable AR I've ever seen posted on these boards.  I'm not big into smileys and emoticons, but for you, sir:
11/20/2004 7:42:39 AM EDT
[#48]
Lots of coolness factor but not worth the NFA BS IMHO.

CRC
12/3/2004 11:13:02 PM EDT
[#49]
100% worth all the NFA BS, just my .02 though
12/4/2004 1:22:04 AM EDT
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Here's my basic, run-of-the-mill shorty AR.  Nothin' fancy, but shoots one hell of a fireball!

img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jason280/DSC00149_038.jpg



WOW!!  Damn near pocket sized.

NOTE TO SELF:  Move out of MI so you can have a toy like that.



MG - machine gun
SI - sound suppressor (silencer)
SR - short barreled rifle
SG - short shotgun
AOW - any other weapon
LBDD - large bore destructive device
EXPDD - explosive, incendiary or poison gas destructive device


STATEMG SI  SR   SG   AOWLBDD  EXPDD  Comments

AK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
AL  Y   Y   N    N    Y  Y    ?
AR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (state registration of pistol cal. MG's over .30)
AZ  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
CA  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires discretionary and rarely issued permit for mg, lbdd or expdd from state Dept. of
                                 Justice; no AOW pen guns; C&R sg, sr only)
CO  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (requires state explosives permit for expdd)
CT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (no select fire mg's-full auto's only, after 1993 assault weapon ban, state registration of
                                 mg's)
DE  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   (no smooth bore pistol AOW's)
FL  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
GA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
HI  N   N   N    N    N  N    N  
IA  N   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (only si, sr, sg, lbdd and expdd designated as collector's items by the Comm'r of Public
                                 Safety - they use the ATF C&R list)
ID  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
IL  N   N   N    N    Y  ?    N
IN  Y   Y   Y    N    Y  Y    N
KS  N   N   Y    N    Y  Y    N   DEWAT machine guns are OK.
KY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
LA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (mg's require a permit to purchase - war relics only; mg's, sr, si, sg and some expdd's
                                 require a permit to purchase)
MA  Y   N   Y    N    N  Y    N   (license for mg's required; 1998 law bans covert firearms (AOW's), short shotguns)
MD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N   (mg's must be registered)
ME  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
MI  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (FFL needed to own machine guns; no incendiary expdd; C&R sr, sg only)MN  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   (C&R mg, sg only, registration required)
MO  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (C&R mg, sr, sg only to non-FFL holders; FFL holders (including C&R) any mg, sr, sg)
MS  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (as of 7/1/00, silencers are legal, but must be registered with the state)
MT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  N    N   (state law banning silencers and requiring pistol cal. mg's over .30 be registered with state
                                 repealed 4/23/99)
NE  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
NC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (sheriff's permit required for mg's; must be FFL holder (including C&R) for mg, si, sr, sg
                                 lbdd and expdd, or fall into another exception, see comments below)
ND  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (fed. "licensees" required to register all NFA weapons with state when possessed for
                                 "protection or sale")
NH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NJ  Y   N   N    N    Y  N    N   (mg requires discretionary and rarely issued permit from state court)
NM  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
NY  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    N   (AOW smooth bore handguns are allowed, on a state pistol license)
OH  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OK  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
OR  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (no incendiary expdd's)
PA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    N
RI  N   N   N    N    Y  Y    ?
SC  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?   In 2001, S.C. law was changed to permit all Federally registered items  
SD  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
TN  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
TX  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
UT  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
VA  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (state registration of all mg's)
VT  Y   N   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y
WA  N   Y   N    N    Y  Y    N   (silencer may not be used on a gun)
WI  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    Y   (permit required for expdd, no incendiary expdd's; no pistol caliber mg's w/o permit)
WV  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
WY  Y   Y   Y    Y    Y  Y    ?
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WTF!!!!

Edited to add:

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I get it now, the state by state SBR chart.hr


Wow my thoughts exactly!!!!
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