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Posted: 3/23/2004 5:46:35 PM EDT
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As a point of technique, does anyone else cant their AR slightly when shouldering their rifle? I was doing different sorts of fast shouldering drills, and I found that if I cant slightly left, I can get a better cheekweld, and I can acquire targets faster. Biometrically this seems more efficient. I'm not quite talking homie-style, but maybe 20 degrees or so. I've been thinking about adjusting my telestock slightly to acheive this effect, but I can't find my wrench. I'm using a Reflex on a carry handle gooseneck, FWIW; iron sights folks might not have such great luck. Thoughts? |
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The AR platform seems to induce a canted hold in certain shooters. Whether it's due to physical characteristics or a learned thing I'm not so sure. You can see this fully if you observe some Match Rifle shooters. Many cant their space guns and install their sights upright. Looks funny, but sure works. Just ask David Tubb! As to N_A_L, whatever works for you. Just bear in mind that canting a rifle will screw up your accuracy at the longer ranges, even with a scope! |
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Canting is used by service rifle (AR-15) shooters to try and keep the neck and back straight while bringing the rifle up to the line of sight. If you don't use a cant, you end up leaning into and over the rifle, and this upsets the stability of the hold. To give you an idea of how much windage is needed to offset the cant I use, I am 1 MOA of right windage at 100 yards. I know this because I shoot at least 50 rounds a week working on my standing offhand. I've refined my position to the point where I watch the stock of the rifle into my shoulder each and every time I shoulder the weapon. I know from the 'feel' of the stock on my cheak if I've misplaced the rifle, and unshoulder and reshoulder the rifle as many times as necessary to get it right. For CQB or SHTF scenarios, determining the off set for the cant on your rifle just isn't possible. Not only that, but the cant will increace the change in POA POI as the distance to the target increases. A change in clothing, wearing web gear, standing, sitting, prone, all contribute to a different cant on the weapon. Since most AR's can hold less than 2" MOA, just concentrate on a good battle sight zero and don't worry about the cant of the weapon. |
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I hadn't placed a reason on why I cant, but now that I think about it, it's definitely for neck/head alignment. Biomechanically I think the AR can be improved farther in a number of ways; if the toe of the stock were extended just a bit more, cant would be unnecessary for me. Forward grips are also an interesting point; a perfectly vertical grip is actually pretty uncomfortable; rotating it by a few degrees makes it a lot more comfortable. CQB cant isn't going to matter. I'm mainly just curious because I see so many shooters with AR15s holding them rigidly vertical. A canted rifle I think would benefit a number of people in close-up shooting. |
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Quoted: If the toe of the stock were extended just a bit more, cant would be unnecessary for me. Forward grips are also an interesting point; a perfectly vertical grip is actually pretty uncomfortable; rotating it by a few degrees makes it a lot more comfortable. An AR-15 'space gun' stock gives the shooter a completly customized setup, something the service rifle shooter only dreams about. I can't wait to finish with the service rifle and start shooting with something I can adjust to my measurements instead of the other way around. |
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