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3/1/2004 3:44:45 PM EDT
I have recently acquired a Daniel Defense CAR Burnsed sling loop (Thanks Grant!) to install on my RRA M4 w/ post-ban fixed collapsible stock.

I have the necessary stock wrench available and am under the assumption that this will be the only tool I will need.

Now, I know that all I have to do is slide the wrench over the locking ring and unscrew it but what can I expect after that?  Does the existing plate hold anything in?  How easy will it come off?

I initially slid the wrench over the locking ring and twisted a little, but it was pretty snug.  So mostly I am wondering how much force, on average, is necessary to dislodge it seeing as how I do not want to break anything.

After I unscrew the locking nut I assume that I will unscrew the buffer tube and then remove the existing plate to finish the job.  Then I just work in backwards order with the new plate.  

Are these assumptions correct?  Please lend any advice you may have.  Thanks!
3/1/2004 3:58:56 PM EDT
[#1]
The plate is holding in the rear takedown pin spring and detent. Be careful when removing.

You've got the right idea on the rest.
3/1/2004 5:11:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Ok thanks.  But how much force is it gonna take to get this locking ring to budge?  Because so far it is being stubborn and does not want to move a millimeter.
3/1/2004 5:18:48 PM EDT
[#3]
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But how much force is it gonna take to get this locking ring to budge?  Because so far it is being stubborn and does not want to move a millimeter.
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More than you think [;)].

If you just hav  the compact CAR wrench, it can be pretty tough to loosen.  But then again, you wouldn't want it to loosen up on you in use...

Be aware that as soon as you unscrew the tube, the buffer retainer will go flying.  Cover it with a rag when you get to that point and save yourself the aggravation of losing it.
3/1/2004 5:35:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Be sure to remove the buffer and buffer spring before starting the process too. [:)]
3/1/2004 5:49:41 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes, watch the rear take down spring and detent and watch that buffer retaining spring and pin.  The rear take down spring and detent is on the right side.
3/1/2004 7:12:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Ok, help me on the direction I need to turn this locking nut.  My brain has apparently gone dead.

If I have the buttstock against my chest, and the wrench attached so that the handle is at the 3 o'clock position, what direction do I move it?  Up or down?  I want to say up but I am not so sure.  Thanks!
3/1/2004 7:19:03 PM EDT
[#7]
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Ok, help me on the direction I need to turn this locking nut.  My brain has apparently gone dead.

If I have the buttstock against my chest, and the wrench attached so that the handle is at the 3 o'clock position, what direction do I move it?  Up or down?  I want to say up but I am not so sure.  Thanks!
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Counterclockwise.
Be SURE TO TAKE Note of the buffer detent and spring like others have said. IT WILL GO FLYING!
3/1/2004 7:36:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Ok I got the locking nut undone and everything taken off.

Man that buffer retainer and spring came shooting out of that!  Good thing I saw it come out from underneath the rag.  [;)]

Anyway, I have the new plate on and am screwing the stock back into the reciever.  But How far should I screw it?  Just enough to cover the retaining pin for the buffer?  Or how far?

Thanks!
3/1/2004 7:51:55 PM EDT
[#9]
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Ok I got the locking nut undone and everything taken off.

Mand that buffer retainer and spring came shooting out of that.  

Anyway, I have the new plate on and am screwing the stock back into the reciever.  But How far should I screw it?  Just enough to cover the retaining pin for the buffer?  Or how far?

Thanks!
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Over the base of the detent 'till it's touching  the pin. Be sure to center your stock before re-tightening the nut.
3/1/2004 7:53:24 PM EDT
[#10]
You mean just center it using my eye right?  Or is there a marker of some sorts that denotes that it is aligned?  Thanks!
3/1/2004 7:58:52 PM EDT
[#11]
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You mean just center it using my eye right?  Or is there a marker of some sorts that denotes that it is aligned?  Thanks!
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No marker. Just hold or brace it in the straightened position when you re-tighten the nut. If you don't brace/hold the stock, it will move in the direction your are retightening.  
3/3/2004 5:25:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Hmmm.....now you have me all thinking about the straightness of my stock.

I got it all back on ok and what I thought was straight in line with the vertical axis of the rifle.  Now I am not so sure.  [:\]

I am bringing this thread back up to see if anyone has any other tips for getting this thing on straight.  At the point I am at I can always loosen it again and re-straighten it if I feel the need to.

Also, right before I tightened it up for good, it would only rotate a total of 5-10 degrees.  By that I mean from the center position I had it in, it would rotate about .15" left or right and no more due to the sling plate restricting its movement from inside its little detent on the reciever.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
3/5/2004 11:14:23 AM EDT
[#13]
No ideas for the uncertain mind?
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