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2/28/2004 12:07:56 PM EDT
Ok, assuming the AWB goes away, I'd like to get the barrels threaded on my post-ban ARs and install some flash suppressors.  Which style of flash suppressor is best?  A2 birdcage, Vortex, Phantom, or something else?  The cheapest I've found A2 flash hiders is $6, and $35 for the Phantoms.  Are the Phantoms really worth the extra money?
2/28/2004 12:12:22 PM EDT
[#1]
vortex, vortex, and if you can't find one of those... then get a VORTEX.  that WILL be on ALL, ANY, and EVERY barrel i own after the sunset.

"tell me how you really feel?"
"well, i think i like the vortex."

S
2/28/2004 1:11:26 PM EDT
[#2]
I prefer the Phantom, a real one from Yankee Hill Machine. No tines to get bent,plus it can be used for defense when you run out of ammo.
2/28/2004 2:34:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Use a bayonet when you run out of ammo.
2/28/2004 2:50:30 PM EDT
[#4]
The Vortex IS the best followed by the Phantom.
2/28/2004 7:41:00 PM EDT
[#5]
The Vortex is hands down the best flash suppressor (no flash, period), and is what I have on all my barrels that use F/H's.  The tines on my units have never bent or cracked, even when hit pretty hard.

However, the Phantom is pretty darn good, won't catch on brush like the open tines of the Vortex, and won't kick up dust when prone like the Vortex can.

If you want ultimate flash suppression, get the Vortex.  If brush and dust are a concern, get a Phantom.  I don't think you can go wrong with either as far as flash is concerned.
2/28/2004 7:43:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Another Vortex lover, checking in.

Can't say enough about Smith Enterprises.
2/28/2004 9:39:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Just checked the YHM page and see that the phantom is selling for $24.95

seems like a pretty good deal
2/29/2004 12:54:46 AM EDT
[#8]
I thought the Vortex claims must be somewhat exaggerated...until I bought one a few months ago.

I immediately noticed a what seemed to be zero flash at the indoor range compared to my "birdcage" hider...but I wanted to know what it looked like in "real" conditions.

Last week I took it to my shooting pit for test. Lit the back stop up with my car headlights, took aim, and then had my friend turn off the lights.

One fired shot into the back stop. No flash...nada, nil, zilch...I could not belive it. I my buddy inside the car said he saw nothing as well.

In all fairness though, I have not performed the same test with the birdcage hider, and I don't own a Phantom.

It would be cool to see a side by side of all three designs shot in night conditions. If I remember correctly the Smith sight had some kind of picture there - you might want to take a look at it.
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