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1/6/2004 6:21:39 PM EDT
Looking at the discussion on the picture thread with Koldt, made me wonder about Canada:
No SBR Laws? No AWB? He seems to have some M203s in his incredible collection (if you haven't seen it go check it out now)
Does canada even have Machinegun Laws?
Whats the story on Canadian gun laws?
Sounds like a gunlovers paradise!
1/6/2004 6:37:23 PM EDT
[#1]
I used to shoot IPSC w/ Canadians, back in 90-92.... gun laws are very restrictive, especially handgun.  I remember meeting a fella that had an odd Valmet model, he said something about it was grandfathered (restricted) for him to own, but he could not sell it or give it away when he died.

As far as I know, SBR is ok, no barrel restrictions there, but most rifles are controlled or something to that effect. I thought I had heard that M16 lowers could be used (stripped of the select fire parts) a long time ago?

If you are really interested, look on the subguns,com reloading forum for a fella that post as "canuck", he is in Ontario Canada. He might be able to help answer your questions better than I.
1/6/2004 7:22:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Yea shooter's paradise hardly.

You want a handgun, well you must first document that you belong to a range. You must then buy the handgun and have it delivered to your local police dept. then you get to draw a map of your house and show the location of the handgun, they you get to show a map of the most direct route from your home to your range and you are only allowed to transport it on that route. Then you get your hadgun from the police.

They grandfathered machinegun owners not the guns. So as each owner dies, in one generation all machineguns are gone.

All magazines except 22rimfire must be blocked to 5 rounds I believe. No such thing as a preban magazine all blocked.
1/6/2004 7:26:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Canada was a decent place to have almost any long guns until the early 1990's, when we were slammed with two rounds of new gun laws.  Some people manage some decent collections still, because when items are prohibited, they are usually "grandfathered", meaning the owners can keep them until they die.  Also:
-To be considered a firearm, the weapon must propel a projectile over 500 fps.  This means that 40 mm grenade launchers are not considered firearms, and are no more regulated than slingshots.
-There are no barrel length prohibitions, though short barrels sometimes are restricted, which means they are subject to a permit system to move them around.
-Pre-'92, full-autos could be converted to semi-auto, then treated as if they were always semi-autos.  This is no longer possible.
-Handguns have been treated as a scourge upon the earth by lawmakers since the 1930's.  Fat lot of good it has done.

This is far, far from being a gun owners paradise.  Though with CGN giving a new sense of gun-owner empowerment, maybe we are working on it.
1/6/2004 7:29:22 PM EDT
[#4]
YOUCH!  That's not cool
1/6/2004 8:05:14 PM EDT
[#5]
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Yea shooter's paradise hardly.

You want a handgun, well you must first document that you belong to a range. You must then buy the handgun and have it delivered to your local police dept. then you get to draw a map of your house and show the location of the handgun, they you get to show a map of the most direct route from your home to your range and you are only allowed to transport it on that route. Then you get your hadgun from the police.

They grandfathered machinegun owners not the guns. So as each owner dies, in one generation all machineguns are gone.

All magazines except 22rimfire must be blocked to 5 rounds I believe. No such thing as a preban magazine all blocked.
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Whoa, nevermind the paradise thing...
1/6/2004 8:53:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Canadian gun laws suck compared to ours. They enacted a national gun registration law a few years that was supposed to cost about 10 million to set up and the cost is about 500 million now and still rising. I suspect a lot of people are ignoring the law, but not many will admit to civil disobedience.
I joined the National Firearms Association to support them and send some cash. The NFA is like our NRA except there way too nice. They need to hire some pit bull types and get down and dirty.
1/7/2004 11:35:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Here is the link to our government website on the matter:

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/default.asp

in brief:

All gun owners must be licensed.

Mags:
All handguns: 10 rds
Semi-auto rifles: 5 rds
22 rimfire: no limit
CF rifle, w/tube mags: no limit
w/removable mag, except Enfields(10): 5 rds

ARs are restricted, as are all handguns. Which means you can only shoot at approved ranges and must possess a special license to to transport to the range. No limits on barrel length or bayonaet lugs, etc. There is no reason for this, other than PC, as many other semi autos are non-restricted.
Tecnically all guns must be registered but this will never happen, and the gov is waning on it.

Cheers,

Chris
1/7/2004 2:01:43 PM EDT
[#8]
I heard all weapons that "look like" assault weapons were banned is that true?!?!?
1/9/2004 8:44:40 AM EDT
[#9]
Not exactly. It was clear to all of us that when the current round of gov crazyness started in 1995, they simply opened the pages of magazines and watched movies. They picked the guns that looked scariest and "prohibited" them. This means no more can be imported and the current owners were grandfathered.
A classic case of this is the Barret Light-Fifty. There were several movies featring this rifle around 1995 and it was placed on the prhib list. But no other 50BMG rifle were added!? Another example is the Swissarms 550, it is not prohib becasue it was not imported or in any catalogues in Canada at the time.
They also tried to prohib the AR15. But it is our military service rifle so they would have screwed the service rifle crowd. They pulled back on that one and added the AR to the restricted list with handguns and short bbl rifles by special Order-in-Council.

Happy shooting,
Chris
1/9/2004 9:03:56 AM EDT
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I heard all weapons that "look like" assault weapons were banned is that true?!?!?
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I hate to disagree with cyoungso but this is pretty much exactly correct.  The NFA ran a Access to Information Act request for the documents used by parliament in the run-up to passing the law.  Among the documents they found a photocopy of the catalog pages of a Gun Digest.  Every semi-auto which had a pistol grip had an "X" marked through it with a Magic Marker.  This is why the BM59 was prohibited, while the M14 was not, as the BM59 shown in that year's catalog was probably the Nigerian version.
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