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Posted: 10/27/2003 5:37:59 AM EDT
Saw a full auto belt-fed M-16 on the history channel and was wondering about these. Is there such a thing as an AR-15 that is semi-auto and belt-fed?....
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 5:49:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/27/2003 5:50:43 AM EDT by Knife_Sniper]
The Shrike is your best option. [url]http://www.aresdefense.com/shrike.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:04:28 AM EDT
Colt also made some in the 60's. Jack
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:12:40 AM EDT
There is also a company (BRP Corp) making 8mm belt fed 'uppers' for the AR-15 (soon to have them in .308). [url]http://groups.msn.com/TheMarylandAR15shootersSite/rifles.msnw[/url]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:23:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper: The Shrike is your best option. [url]http://www.aresdefense.com/shrike.htm[/url]
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[b][size=2]How many months behind is the SHRIKE project ??? What's the latest GUESS as to when they MIGHT ship ??[/b][/size=2] Today the SHRIKE is NO option. Whether the SHRIKE will ever be an option remains to be seen. 5sub
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 9:16:03 AM EDT
Sure the Shrike is an option.. They are in production.. You can put your name in for a pre order.. Just a waiting game now.. Sometimes setbacks are a little problem..
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 9:41:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hawkin: Sure the Shrike is an option.. They are in production.. You can put your name in for a pre order.. Just a waiting game now.. Sometimes setbacks are a little problem..
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The SHRIKE is in production ?? That would (obviously) mean all the components have been delivered. hawkin, you might take a minute and re-think your statement. Oh, why don't you define how many months behind schedule "a little problem" constitutes ?? ----------------------------------------------- Now, I'm going to give you time to verify your facts and if I don't hear back on this board I'm going to start a new topic titled: [b]"SHRIKE Now in PRODUCTION - per "hawkin"[/b]. In other words you, "hawkin", will be the authoritatitive source quoted. There's too many AR15.com members with deposits (working capital by any other name) up to mess around with the facts. 5sub
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 9:54:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/27/2003 10:40:06 AM EDT by 5subslr5]
Hawkin, bet Geoffrey A. Herring of Ares will be glad to know the SHRIKE is in production !! Especially since the barrels aren't scheduled to arrive until the end of November (year not specified by Mr. Herring)........... . Aw heck, just read the letter from Ares below. 5sub ---------------------------------------------- From www.full-auto.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=43;t=000104 At last, there is light at the end of the tunnel! As most of our customers already know, the Shrike 5.56 manufacturing program has had its share of setbacks, some of which may have been avoided with a crystal ball and others that simply could not be foreseen. Vendor setbacks were a huge disappointment to all and Ares Defense took measures to correct these deficiencies by re-contracting affected components and by also purchasing more capital equipment so that some of these parts could be brought back in-house. Two days ago on October 21, 2003, the United States Patent and Trademark Office issued me the first of several pending patents covering the Shrike 5.56 and related inventions. With proprietary rights now secured and with the imminent issuance of several more pending-patents, Ares Defense Systems, Inc. will soon have more flexibility to discuss the mechanical details of the Shrike 5.56. [b]In manufacturing news, our barrel manufacturer Lothar Walther Precision anticipates delivering a huge batch of premium-grade barrels by the end of November. (As a note, Lothar Walther has not been one of the “hold-up” vendors on this program.) The samples they provided us for approval earlier this year were outstanding and they are of very high quality. We’ve received word that our handguard extrusions are deliverable in 6-8 weeks and we are dealing with three of the main “heavy-hitters” in the investment casting industry for delivery of complex feed components which we should receive by the end of December/first of January.[/b] The investment castings are our longest lead-time parts, but these specific components are very complex in geometry and and would be difficult to manufacture any other way. Once received, final-assembly, testing and shipping should proceed rather quickly. We anticipate having our website overhauled in the very near future and the older images and outdated information will be replaced with new images of the commercial and military configurations of the Shrike 5.56. Thanks again to all of our customers for their business and undying patience! Geoffrey A. Herring Ares Defense Systems, Inc. http://www.aresdefense.com Not by a long shot. ________________________________________ In God I trust. All others must bring data. ----------------------------------------------- Edited to add: [b]The above letter is courtesy of our member "QCMGR".)[/b]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 11:04:11 AM EDT
Got a better buy than the shrike? Good things are worth the wait.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 11:20:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hawkin: Sure the Shrike is an option.. They are in production.. You can put your name in for a pre order.. Just a waiting game now.. Sometimes setbacks are a little problem..
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Ok Klinton, define production.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 11:45:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper: Got a better buy than the shrike? Good things are worth the wait.
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How can ANYTHING without a production date be a "buy" ??
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 11:50:55 AM EDT
Hope these guys arent the last line of defense if we got invaded..... [/img]http://www.aresdefense.com/images/Shrike%20Group.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 3:58:07 PM EDT
Despite all of the bullshit with production setbacks and all, what do you guys think about the actual item, not the people who are manufacturing sed item.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 4:19:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/27/2003 4:25:16 PM EDT by QCMGR]
Originally Posted By 82_Airborne: Despite all of the bullshit with production setbacks and all, what do you guys think about the actual item, not the people who are manufacturing sed item.
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Who knows. A tool room sample does not equal a production model. From what I have seen it is like taking a F-150 and putting a towing boom on back when you really need a dedicated Wrecker.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 4:23:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 82_Airborne: Saw a full auto belt-fed M-16 on the history channel and was wondering about these. Is there such a thing as an AR-15 that is semi-auto and belt-fed?....
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No, Colt producted a LMG Upper, but it was Full-Auto. Not aware of any Semi auto Belt Uppers, Shrike would be first.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:20:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 82_Airborne: Despite all of the bullshit with production setbacks and all, what do you guys think about the actual item, not the people who are manufacturing sed item.
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82_, very difficult to comment on the item with the information available - which is practically none. I've seen how difficult it is for established manufacturers to bring new products on-line and can't help but wonder how this will go. Hell, the AR-15 was designed in the 1950's and it's still evolving ! Is the design both good AND feasible for mass production ?? Making 'one' of something is one thing but manufacturing 'many' is quite another. There's just not enough information available on the product to know much. ("QCMGR" has much better credentials in the manufacturing area than me.)
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 8:04:43 PM EDT
Jonathan Arthur Ceiner made a handfull of belt fed conversions and you can expect them to sell for around 8K if you find one. Colt played with it and I think gave up. So far the Shrike is hiding in the bushes.
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 6:47:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/30/2003 6:50:19 PM EDT by ybh_613]
O.K. Here's the story. In SGN there was a 3 page story about the Shrike stating it would be ready in late February of .04 Price is $2,995.00. Sourse of infomation "Shotgun News 9-20-2003, story by Jeff W. Zimba, pages 32-34" edit to say "great photo's"
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 7:02:49 PM EDT
I have that issue, they really liked the rifle.
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 7:06:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Knife_Sniper: The Shrike is your best option. [url]http://www.aresdefense.com/shrike.htm[/url]
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... Ha! ... The "Shrike" is an urban legend
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