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4/20/2003 5:33:29 PM EDT
Are you for or against the drop of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 also know as the 1994 Crime Bill and the assault weapons ban?  If you are against the drop why?  Have you done anything to voice your thoughts on the ban?

What pre-ban firearms/accessories will you get if the ban is dropped?
4/20/2003 5:50:11 PM EDT
[#1]
I think you know what everyone's answer is to that question.  Every member hopes the ban will sunset as expected.  I hope you feel the same way.

[url]http://www.awbansunset.com/[/url]

It's looking good so far but let's hope it stays that way.
4/20/2003 5:52:30 PM EDT
[#2]

The DC sniper incident and the overwhelming desire of politicians to be re-elected all but guarantees the continuation of the AWB despite our hopes, prayers, and letters to the contrary.
4/20/2003 6:10:07 PM EDT
[#3]
BE A WOLF amongst sheep,or become dinner
DON'T GIVE UP WITHOUT A FIGHT
Let Them know you vote  Flood offices with fact based petitions. or lie down ye lambs and be slaughtred
4/20/2003 6:20:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:

BE A WOLF amongst sheep,or become dinner
DON'T GIVE UP WITHOUT A FIGHT
Let Them know you vote Flood offices with fact based petitions. or lie down ye lambs and be slaughtred
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I couldn't agree with you more.
Because the odds are stacked against an outcome is more, not less, reason to be aggressive.
One fights the good fight because it's the right thing to do, not because it's outcome will be victorious.

However, one must not confuse realism with pessimism. If a middle-aged person who smokes, is overweight,hypertensive, has diabetes, high cholesterol, poor sleep patterns, and a strong family history of heart disease is informed that he is a prime candidate for a heart attack, that revelation, while hardly an encouraging statement, is realistic.

Can he, with a concerted effort, turn his prognosis around? Maybe. Probably not. But certainly worth one helluva try.
4/21/2003 10:37:55 AM EDT
[#5]
I do not support the ban at all.  If I posted this topic why would I be for the ban?  Many regulations and laws concerning firearms are violations of the second amendment.  Though I do agree with making some firearms NFA weapons (short barrelled shotguns and rifles, full-auto weapons, and explosive devices) so that they are harder to get.

Hell I would love to own a pre-ban AR15 modelled after the Colt M4 Carbine.
4/21/2003 10:42:52 AM EDT
[#6]
The way your question was worded, I figured you for a college student doing research for a paper......
4/21/2003 11:47:13 AM EDT
[#7]
My hope is that it expires...That is probably the hope of everyone on this site.  BUT, my common sense tells me it will be extended.  Conservatives ane NOT going to alienate "moderate" minded voters by taking on such a polarizing issue as assault weapons.  Read on:

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is bucking the National Rifle Association (NRA) and supporting a renewal of the assault-weapons ban, scheduled to expire just before the presidential election.

"The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said in an interview last week.

4/21/2003 11:53:51 AM EDT
[#8]
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My hope is that it expires...That is probably the hope of everyone on this site.  BUT, my common sense tells me it will be extended.  Conservatives ane NOT going to alienate "moderate" minded voters by taking on such a polarizing issue as assault weapons.  Read on:

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is bucking the National Rifle Association (NRA) and supporting a renewal of the assault-weapons ban, scheduled to expire just before the presidential election.

"The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said in an interview last week.

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*sigh*
It WILL expire.  It's written in the law that it will expire.  That is a certainty.

What is up in the air is NEW AWB-type legislation that is already poking its head up around the country.  GWB will sign it if it gets to his desk.  The battle will be in the House and the Senate.  THEY can keep the bills from ever seeing the President's desk.  This isn't an issue for Presidnet Bush to decide.  It's an issue for our Congress-critters to decide.  Hopefully they'll remember what happened in '94 after the AWB was passed (isn't that when the Repubs routed the Dems, and took control of the House?)

-Gloftoe
4/21/2003 12:02:40 PM EDT
[#9]
I hope that it will not be replaced by something permanent.  But Bush is no friend of gun owners, what rights have we actually gotten back in the last 2.5 years? None, zip, nada.

My paranoid side says that some horrific incident will take place and that, my friends, will be that.

Buy all the AWs you want now.



4/21/2003 12:28:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The way your question was worded, I figured you for a college student doing research for a paper......
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Actually I am not a college student, just a gun owner, hunter, and shooter.  But I just want to find out others views on this.  And a research paper, no way, I hardly like to do my high school work let alone a long term paper.


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I hope that it will not be replaced by something permanent.  But Bush is no friend of gun owners, what rights have we actually gotten back in the last 2.5 years? None, zip, nada.

My paranoid side says that some horrific incident will take place and that, my friends, will be that.

Buy all the AWs you want now.



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I would if I had the money, but in NY state Pataki has outlawed the importation of Assault weapons from other states.  The only way to buy one is used from another gun owner in NY or a new post-ban firearm from a gun shop (rare as hell though).  And the problem is that I would want to get a pre-ban firearm, and not a post ban.  No sense in owning a post ban really, most of the accessories out there that do any good are pre-ban.
4/21/2003 12:53:31 PM EDT
[#11]
If it is not renewed. I will be purchasing hi-cap mags by the truck load.
4/21/2003 12:54:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Let it sunset!
4/21/2003 1:52:30 PM EDT
[#13]
I sent a letter to Sen. John Mcain of AZ. Similar to the sample letters on sunset. That site gave me the facts and the contacts I needed, I hope I help make a differance. Here's to AW add-ons and freedom. I also checked off for them to post it on their site, congress.org

[marines]
4/21/2003 2:33:42 PM EDT
[#14]
That's not what happened in '94.  The reason Dems got their hat handed to them was due more to Clinton's Health Care Fiasco and the fact that it was a mid-term election.

Keep in mind that last fall's mid-term election results were highly unusual because historically the President's party LOSES seats.  Bush bucked that trend...Big Time ;)

But the Assault Weapons Ban (if I remember correctly) was LATE in the year...JUST before the election.

You are correct that it will expire -- but you are dreaming to think that it will not be extended.  It will.
4/21/2003 7:47:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
That's not what happened in '94.  The reason Dems got their hat handed to them was due more to Clinton's Health Care Fiasco and the fact that it was a mid-term election.
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According to Bill Clinton, 20 - 21 of the seats lost in the House (enough to give Republicans the majority) were directly as a result of the AW ban vote.  Of course, he rarely tells the truth about anything, but can't see a reason for him to lie about this (unless he was playing for sympathy... the David Democrat vs. Goliath NRA ploy).

--Mike
4/21/2003 7:53:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Who on these forums would support it?

Just a note there are now 3 topics all adressing this issue.
4/21/2003 8:36:25 PM EDT
[#17]
President Bush has publicly said that he supports continuation of the ban.  BUT:  His father got on the bad side of the NRA, and a lot of gun owners supported Ross Perot.  Clinton would have never been elected without Bush Sr.'s mishandling the gun issues and Perot splitting the conservative vote.
I can only hope that the current President Bush has learned from his father's mistakes.  I shudder to think of Hillary taking over "The Patriot Act".
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