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4/17/2003 1:00:51 PM EDT
I know I hope in vain, but I regardless hope that this does not spark another AR vs. AK discussion war.  

I have heard that AK's are not highly accurate, or atleast in comparison the to he AR's.  I've heard that this is one reason the AR is preferred over the AK despite the reliability debate (which I HOPE HOPE HOPE does not proliferate into this thread).
4/17/2003 11:22:22 PM EDT
[#1]
So what is your question, exactly? You don't really ask one.

Yes, ARs are much more accurate than AKs. IMO, ARs are just as dependable as an AK **IF** the AR gets cleaned once in a while.

Clearly an AK can be dropped in a sand pit & still fire, no question about that. They're lots of fun to shoot. But you'll NEVER win an accuracy match with one.

My .o2
4/18/2003 8:25:26 AM EDT
[#2]
I second that. I own an ak and can't get the thing to shoot worth a crap.
4/18/2003 8:52:22 AM EDT
[#3]
That was basically the question...accuracy.  I just seems to me an important issue in the different between AK and AR.  I like AK's as well, shot one once but in a pretty casual setting.  I'd like to own one someday.

Thanks.
4/18/2003 9:08:16 AM EDT
[#4]
[url]http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/m16vsak47.htm [/url]

Read this.
4/18/2003 9:13:02 AM EDT
[#5]
The Hungarian SA-85M, model AK, imported by KBI was and is considered one of the most accurate reasonably price, (at the time I purchased) AKs on the market. The Poly-Tech Legend series AK also produced some AKs that shoot very well for an AK. The most accurate AKs IMHO are in the VALMET versions, but mag costs are prohibitive.

The biggest majority of AKs on the market do well to keep all rounds in 4-6 inches at 100 yards, mine w/ old (pre-Wolf) Russian 123grn. HP will put 5 rounds inside a 2" circle at 100 yards from the benchrest, (which still makes it a 2MOA rifle).

If I could only have one battle rifle to take to war I would have to think long and hard about taking the AK simply because it is a "qualified infantryman's weapon", rugged, dependable, reliable and prolific on the modern theaters.

Back in 'nam, when Hackworth's team found,  during construction of a new fire base in the delta, a dead NVA w/ AK, (which had been there for over a year, buried till the dozer push him up). Hackworth call'd all the troopers together to show them what a "combat infantryman's weapon should be", he took the mag out, ran a stick down the barrel to clear the mud, sumwhat, then inserted the mag and ripped off the full 30 round mag....... it didn't skip a beat, (anyone care to bury their M-16 for a year in a swamp, to see if it would do the same, not me..... I got too much money in my ARs).

Ya can say what ya want about Hack, (and I'm sure some will) but he knows what an infantrymans' weapon should be and finiky about cleaning, reliability or maintenence is not something one should want in combat. He was against the M-16 from the get-go and still is, but that's Hack........,

me I like my ARs and have very little problems w/ them, but I have to say strictly from a reliability point of view, nothin touches the bulletproof qualities of Kalishnakov's original design. No wonder there everywhere in the millions and in use everyday.

YMMV,
Mike
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