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3/31/2017 1:43:15 PM EDT
Hey there, I was reading another thread on your page where you said the Mod 4 was coming out.  Are they out yet?

I've noticed the Mod 3 is backorderable on a couple sites.  Do you know if those backorders be filled with the Mod 3 or Mod 4?

Thanks!
4/1/2017 11:39:19 PM EDT
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Bump need to know this myself.
4/4/2017 9:18:59 AM EDT
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I read that the only difference between the Mod 3 and Mod 4 is a weld on the back of the can. So it really shouldn't affect performance.
I am going to bet that all the cans being made for those backorders will be mod 4s.
4/4/2017 12:40:07 PM EDT
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I read that the only difference between the Mod 3 and Mod 4 is a weld on the back of the can. So it really shouldn't affect performance.
I am going to bet that all the cans being made for those backorders will be mod 4s.
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Hope so!  Can someone from Griffin confirm this?
4/8/2017 4:14:02 PM EDT
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The newer Recce 5's are getting a little tube reinforcement designed to make them more compatible with welding / less problematic to move through welding.  There will still only be one weld in the suppressor.  It will be up front.  The current revision is essentially identical to the old model.
4/8/2017 5:13:05 PM EDT
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The newer Recce 5's are getting a little tube reinforcement designed to make them more compatible with welding / less problematic to move through welding.  There will still only be one weld in the suppressor.  It will be up front.  The current revision is essentially identical to the old model.
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Thank you, Green0!

So, are all the backordered shipments going to be the new model???  I want to know before I purchase a back ordered one because I would prefer to have the newest model for my first can!
4/11/2017 9:28:29 AM EDT
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I believe so.  I don't think there were any of the older units shipping now.    The modification wasn't a response to a weakness in the product, it was a response to a geometry requiring master level human welding because the robots are not capable of seeing a change in the process and thinking and adapting like a human being.  So the newer geometry will permit more consistent looking welds to be applied in production.  The old and new welds are both very strong.  

We went back and forth with weld engineers from welding robot companies and they recommended slight changes to geometry.

It wasn't a money problem- we would happily pay for the master level welding- the welds were ~$7-8 per weld which is fairly high for circumferential welds.  We tried several journeyman welders and were only able to find one welder capable of the cosmetic work we were trying to achieve, and he could not keep up with production volume, so that became a workflow bottleneck.
4/11/2017 2:46:27 PM EDT
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I believe so.  I don't think there were any of the older units shipping now.    The modification wasn't a response to a weakness in the product, it was a response to a geometry requiring master level human welding because the robots are not capable of seeing a change in the process and thinking and adapting like a human being.  So the newer geometry will permit more consistent looking welds to be applied in production.  The old and new welds are both very strong.  

We went back and forth with weld engineers from welding robot companies and they recommended slight changes to geometry.

It wasn't a money problem- we would happily pay for the master level welding- the welds were ~$7-8 per weld which is fairly high for circumferential welds.  We tried several journeyman welders and were only able to find one welder capable of the cosmetic work we were trying to achieve, and he could not keep up with production volume, so that became a workflow bottleneck.
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Fantastic!  Great information, thank you!