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7/21/2016 1:01:05 PM EDT
I placed an order on July 1 for a GM-22 as an individual.  The form 3 has been sent off.  I still have not heard anything on the form 4.

I know this order was in the middle of the 41p rush.  

Just looking for any info on the new form 4.  

Thanks
7/21/2016 3:14:29 PM EDT
[#1]
We are working on the new forms and such now. You should be receiving an email from us soon. Thanks for your patience.
8/4/2016 8:33:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Any Updates as to when form 4 will go out?

Thanks
8/5/2016 10:18:09 AM EDT
[#3]
We are working on that now. I've mentioned this on other threads that we file the form 4 in about half the time that the form 3's are taking. So right now form 3's are 8-10 weeks. We hope to have the form 4's up and ready by the time we hit the halfway mark for customers that bought on July 13th thus not slowing down the process. Once I have more information I'll make a post and update everyone.
8/5/2016 11:48:58 AM EDT
[#4]
Don't worry OP, I'm in the same boat, except my Form 3 was sent on the 19th.  Its all gonna be hurry up and wait I'm afraid.
8/14/2016 9:43:48 AM EDT
[#5]
My Form 3 just got approved.  I still have not heard or seen anything on the Form 4.

Hard to believe  SS does not have Form 4 ready to go.
8/14/2016 5:05:34 PM EDT
[#6]
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My Form 3 just got approved.  I still have not heard or seen anything on the Form 4.

Hard to believe  SS does not have Form 4 ready to go.
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Uh oh, and you still haven't heard anything on the form 4??   I'm only 19 days behind you....  I'm praying that photo app comes out, or I'm gonna end up downloading a app from somewhere else and emailing it in....  At least then, they will have all the info so when they get things straitened out they can get it out ASAP.
8/15/2016 11:09:19 AM EDT
[#7]
I understand the frustration. It's not as easy as just flipping a switch. Thank you for bearing with us during this massive change. We are working 7 days a week to get everything ironed out.

However we will start filing the first Post 41F form 4's next week. The App should be online this week (so I'm told) and this Thursday or Friday emails should go out on all orders for digital signatures.

8/15/2016 11:37:52 AM EDT
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I understand the frustration. It's not as easy as just flipping a switch. Thank you for bearing with us during this massive change. We are working 7 days a week to get everything ironed out.

However we will start filing the first Post 41F form 4's next week. The App should be online this week (so I'm told) and this Thursday or Friday emails should go out on all orders for digital signatures.

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Whats a week or so delay, I mean hell, we're all probably in for a 2 yr wait anyways on form 4s  You guys make this process simple for us all, which has to be a pain in the ass on your end so I understand.

BTW, how does the digital sig work??  Kinda like efiling your taxes??  You just type your name and certify you did it?
8/15/2016 12:37:08 PM EDT
[#9]
It is Docu-sign. We had to wait on the ATF to be able to do this. So the wait wasn't all us.
8/15/2016 1:42:20 PM EDT
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It is Docu-sign. We had to wait on the ATF to be able to do this. So the wait wasn't all us.
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Interesting, never used that before.
8/24/2016 2:56:43 PM EDT
[#11]
Any update on the form 4's??

Purchase date of 7/19 here....
8/24/2016 3:28:18 PM EDT
[#12]
We are pushing hard for this week. Update on the App - we are waiting on approval from Apple to put it in the app store.
8/26/2016 8:41:23 PM EDT
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We are pushing hard for this week. Update on the App - we are waiting on approval from Apple to put it in the app store.
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Still waiting for the Form 4.  I don't need an app.  I have prints and pics ready to go.  Just waiting to get the form 4 for nearly 2 months
8/31/2016 4:17:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Any update on the form 4's?  My prints were sent in a month ago to be scanned, and my photo is on the app.  My form 3 is probably approved, if not close to being so by now.  Bought on 7/19....
9/7/2016 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#15]
Any info??  Been 7 weeks since form 3 submitted on 7/19  no word on form 4 as of yet,  don't know if form 3 is approved as that part of site is down.....
9/20/2016 5:06:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Getting any closer to form 4s yet?  My form 3 was approved, and it is at the dealer.   Not heard a peep on my form 4 yet


8 weeks today since i bought my alpha and at this point it was slower to use a power by SS dealer
9/22/2016 11:00:35 AM EDT
[#17]
Buying as an individual, is it just one set of fingerprints and one passport photo needed ? Then send the sheriff a copy ?
9/22/2016 5:17:29 PM EDT
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Buying as an individual, is it just one set of fingerprints and one passport photo needed ? Then send the sheriff a copy ?
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Two sets of fingerprints and two photos. Then the sheriff gets a notification. We handle all of that for you though.
9/23/2016 9:40:36 PM EDT
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Was it always 2 sets of prints and pics ? It's been 3 years cause I have been using a trust. I don't remember doing 2 sets on my first purchase. That means I have to go back to the damn sheriffs office and get another set.
9/24/2016 12:00:20 AM EDT
[#20]
All of my Form 4 and Form 1 are with my trust.  But, the instructions for the Form 4 state:

2g. Photographs and Fingerprints. An individual transferee, except if licensed as a manufacturer, importer, or dealer under the GCA, must (1) attach to item 15 of the ATF Form 4, a 2 inch x 2 inch photograph of the frontal view of the transferee taken within 1 year prior to the date of the application and (2) submit two properly completed FBI Forms FD-258 (Fingerprint Card with blue lines) with the application. The fingerprints must be clear for accurate classification and taken by someone properly equipped to take them.
9/24/2016 5:32:08 AM EDT
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Was it always 2 sets of prints and pics ? It's been 3 years cause I have been using a trust. I don't remember doing 2 sets on my first purchase. That means I have to go back to the damn sheriffs office and get another set.
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Yes, for a individual it always was 2 of each.  Only thing new is now trusts must submit that info as well, for every person on trust.  Form 4 itself must be done in duplicate as well I think.  Typical government forms.
9/24/2016 1:59:09 PM EDT
[#22]
Ok. Yeah my trust is useless now. Too hard to round everyone up. I got such a great deal on a 5.56 suppressor cause the dealer told me that since the new rule, his sales have nose dived. Good job ATF
9/24/2016 2:52:49 PM EDT
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Ok. Yeah my trust is useless now. Too hard to round everyone up. I got such a great deal on a 5.56 suppressor cause the dealer told me that since the new rule, his sales have nose dived. Good job ATF
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For trusts it sucks, for individuals it got a bit easier
10/3/2016 8:47:11 PM EDT
[#24]
3 months now and no Form 4 from silencer shop  Suppressor is already at local dealer.

This is almost like waiting for the ATF.  Order placed July 1, been hearing the same response for the last 2 months "Should be sent to you in a week or 2"

I am wanting to purchase another suppressor from them, but this is starting to annoy me.  I have had prints and pics since July 1, and let them know this.

First 2 went thru with no problem.  I would like to purchase several more cans from them, but I may have to find another vendor.
10/4/2016 10:27:23 AM EDT
[#25]
PM me your order number and let me look into it.
10/4/2016 10:46:03 AM EDT
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PM me your order number and let me look into it.
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IM Sent
Thanks
10/4/2016 12:36:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Replied, let me know if you need anything else.