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Originally Posted By Marler5811: We'll begin selling the RIS III handguards next year. The 9.5 is the same length as the legacy RIS II MK18 Handguards. This is the one you'll want. Very easy to swap out as well. Just remove the lower rail from your RIS II and unbolt the handguard from the bolt up plate. Install the RIS III 9.5 and bolt up it up and then install the lower rail. Boom, you're done. Originally Posted By Marler5811: Originally Posted By hoodfu: It may have already been asked, but if I've got a MK18 DD full upper, can I get the 10" RIII rail and have everything line up? It'll have the same clearances for a Surefire SOCOM RC2 that the current 10.3" barreled upper will concerning the new handguard? We'll begin selling the RIS III handguards next year. The 9.5 is the same length as the legacy RIS II MK18 Handguards. This is the one you'll want. Very easy to swap out as well. Just remove the lower rail from your RIS II and unbolt the handguard from the bolt up plate. Install the RIS III 9.5 and bolt up it up and then install the lower rail. Boom, you're done. 
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Question: can I swap a RIS ii M203 bottom panel for the RIS iii bottom panel, giving me a pic rail on just the bottom of my MLok RIS iii? Not sure why I would want to do this, just wondering if I can… |
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Just saw an M4A1 RIII at my local FFL. If only I could afford it right now... Originally Posted By Goody454: Question: can I swap a RIS ii M203 bottom panel for the RIS iii bottom panel, giving me a pic rail on just the bottom of my MLok RIS iii? Not sure why I would want to do this, just wondering if I can… Originally Posted By Goody454: Question: can I swap a RIS ii M203 bottom panel for the RIS iii bottom panel, giving me a pic rail on just the bottom of my MLok RIS iii? Not sure why I would want to do this, just wondering if I can… Joe mentioned in his RIS III announcement from January (Page 1 of this same topic) that you can: Originally Posted By Marler5811: 9.5" for 10.3" barrels 10.5" for 11.5" barrels 12.5" for 14.5" barrels as well as anything with a rifle length gas system like a MK12 EXACT same bolt up plate and barrel nut RIS II Lower Rails (M1913) can be installed on RIS III body if you want to. M203 Compatible just like legacy RIS II Handguards. M320 Compatibility w/ our adaptors (MIL only at this point) Only available on complete rifles for starters but will be sold separately later on in the year. All Lengths. Black and Brown. S/F Joe It's not a bad idea - personally, I don't like using M-LOK to mount vertical grips, which is why I like rails such as the Noveske NHR (which have full Picatinny rails running the length of the 6:00 and 12:00 positions). Being able to use a RIS II lower rail section on a RIS III body seems like something I might actually do. |
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Originally Posted By runguns: Rainier has a FDE 9.5” RIS III in stock right now. Shows 1 in stock I would be all over that if it was the 12.5”. Pretty much the only thing I’m waiting on for my tano build at this point. Speaking of the 12.5”. Can anybody verify that the RIS III is .25” longer than the RIS II M4A1 (supposedly 12.25” in length)? |
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Originally Posted By Trash-Hands: I would be all over that if it was the 12.5". Pretty much the only thing I'm waiting on for my tano build at this point. Speaking of the 12.5". Can anybody verify that the RIS III is .25" longer than the RIS II M4A1 (supposedly 12.25" in length)? Originally Posted By Trash-Hands: Originally Posted By runguns: Rainier has a FDE 9.5" RIS III in stock right now. Shows 1 in stock I would be all over that if it was the 12.5". Pretty much the only thing I'm waiting on for my tano build at this point. Speaking of the 12.5". Can anybody verify that the RIS III is .25" longer than the RIS II M4A1 (supposedly 12.25" in length)? 
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Originally Posted By Chompion: Will the 12.5 rail cover an intermediate or rifle length gas block? Intermediate - Maybe but would definitely require the removal of the M203 hanger bracket. Rifle Length - No. The handguard is rifle length so it'll sit behind the gas block on RL gas systems. |
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Even though they're not available separately from the RIII guns just yet, Brownell's just posted a video on their YouTube channel two weeks ago which illustrates how to install a RIS III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVMCaABHmc |
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Originally Posted By VigilantPanda15: Even though they're not available separately from the RIII guns just yet, Brownell's just posted a video on their YouTube channel two weeks ago which illustrates how to install a RIS III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVMCaABHmc I need a RIS III to make use of that video. How much longer is the wait? 
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Originally Posted By FailureToFun: Any update on when the rails will be released for sale? My LGS has FDE and black RIS III's in the shop and said they wont sell until they get approval.  My debit card is ready.  |
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Originally Posted By Alien: My debit card is ready. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/272/907/dc1.jpg |
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Originally Posted By FailureToFun: All I can say is WOW. T&K outdoors has some lightning fast shipping. Very happy with the rail. out with the old, in with the new! https://i.imgur.com/ByBB09P.jpg But thanks to you, it's coming!  I'm pumped. I've never been this excited about a new gun part before. I wanted a RIS II for years but availability sucked big time, and I moved on from quad rail handguards. I was excited the moment I saw the RIS III announcement and have been waiting ever since. |
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Originally Posted By FailureToFun: All I can say is WOW. T&K outdoors has some lightning fast shipping. Very happy with the rail. out with the old, in with the new! https://i.imgur.com/ByBB09P.jpg The RIS 2 in your picture is 9.5” but your RIS 3 is 10.5. Are you putting that RIS 3 on a 10.3 barreled AR? If so, I’d be super interested to see how much the muzzle device protrudes from the handguard…if the 10.5” RIS3 can be used on a 10.3” barrel and enough of the muzzle device protrudes to still screw on a suppressor I think that’d be awesome! |
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Originally Posted By Blstr89: The RIS 2 in your picture is 9.5" but your RIS 3 is 10.5. Are you putting that RIS 3 on a 10.3 barreled AR? If so, I'd be super interested to see how much the muzzle device protrudes from the handguard if the 10.5" RIS3 can be used on a 10.3" barrel and enough of the muzzle device protrudes to still screw on a suppressor I think that'd be awesome! |
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@FailureToFun My handguard came in. All I can say is that it's a work of art. I did not have time to setup my vice and do a proper install with the torque wrench, so I did a quick test fit. The barrel is a virgin 13.9" Triarc midlength barrel with an SA adjustable gas block. I'm going to send the barrel off to Adco to chop it to about 12.5" (maybe a smidge longer) so that the Xeno adapter fits as flush as reasonably possible with the handguard. I'd have done it before hand but I needed the handguard to take a final/accurate measurement.  
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@alien soild looking rifle brother. ADCO has done some solid work for me in the past. Here is what I have so far. 11.5 DD barrel, 10.5 RIS III rail, DD receiver, toolcraft BCG, modlite PLHV2, M4SDK, with a FP peq 15. waiting on Trijicon to get done making my TA02 to add on to the upper and mount my P2 at the 12 O'clock. really excited to get everything put together. It will make for a good all around GP rifle that has active and passive NV capability.  
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Originally Posted By FailureToFun: @alien soild looking rifle brother. ADCO has done some solid work for me in the past. Here is what I have so far. 11.5 DD barrel, 10.5 RIS III rail, DD receiver, toolcraft BCG, modlite PLHV2, M4SDK, with a FP peq 15. waiting on Trijicon to get done making my TA02 to add on to the upper and mount my P2 at the 12 O'clock. really excited to get everything put together. It will make for a good all around GP rifle that has active and passive NV capability. https://i.imgur.com/x65uk5c.jpg https://i.imgur.com/d10OIih.jpg Word around the forum is you've got a sweet rifle. I've got a sweet rifle too. Maybe we should shoot our two sweet rifles together sometime. Maybe a little Mk262? Two sweet rifles, Mk262? 
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Originally Posted By Alien: Word around the forum is you've got a sweet rifle. I've got a sweet rifle too. Maybe we should shoot our two sweet rifles together sometime. Maybe a little Mk262? Two sweet rifles, Mk262? https://media.tenor.com/35FVQ8_MfyUAAAAC/javier-bardem-anton.gif
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Pictures are of an older RIS II, the newer ones are darker, have black screws, and have a larger hole in the front. Attached File Attached File RIS II is 2.23" wide and 2.25" tall RIS III is 1.96" wide and 2.16" tall MK18 RIS II is 393 grams RIS III 9.5 is 369 grams The RIS II bottom rail fits on the RIS III but the RIS III bottom rail does not fit on the RIS II. ETA: With the RIS II bottom rail, QD sling swivels won't fit. Also, M-LOK screws that are too long will hit the bottom rail. Attached File Attached File I like that the screws are hex and slotted now but they seem like they can easily cross thread compared to all of my other RIS IIs. I can't wait to get the other 3 rails. I will post pics in a year when that happens.
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: Pictures are of an older RIS II, the newer ones are darker, have black screws, and have a larger hole in the front. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212523_jpg-2678603.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212600_jpg-2678604.JPG RIS II is 2.23" wide and 2.25" tall RIS III is 1.96" wide and 2.16" tall MK18 RIS II is 393 grams RIS III 9.5 is 369 grams The RIS II bottom rail fits on the RIS III but the RIS III bottom rail does not fit on the RIS II. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212116_jpg-2678611.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212133_jpg-2678612.JPG I like that the screws are hex and slotted now but they seem like they can easily cross thread compared to all of my other RIS IIs. I can't wait to get the other 3 rails. I will post pics in a year when that happens. 
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Originally Posted By FailureToFun: New rails are darker? looks like you ordered a black one. My FDE RIS III looks very close to the FDE of my RIS II in my photos above unless your lighting is diffrent. glad to see the electrode marks are still as present on these rails not that it matters. It's FDE. The bottom one is from 2011 when they were a lot lighter. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: It's FDE. The bottom one is from 2011 when they were a lot lighter. That's weird...I own a Daniel Defense M4A1 made in 2015, and I previously owned a MK18 made in 2020. The MK18's RIS II rail was much lighter. My impression is that they've gotten lighter over time, not the other way around. |
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Originally Posted By VigilantPanda15: That's weird...I own a Daniel Defense M4A1 made in 2015, and I previously owned a MK18 made in 2020. The MK18's RIS II rail was much lighter. My impression is that they've gotten lighter over time, not the other way around. Sample of 13(?) I've had since 2009(?). It varies but trends darker as time goes on, IMO. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: Sample of 13(?) I've had since 2009(?). It varies but trends darker as time goes on, IMO. Interesting, and yeah, I'll take your word for it, since I'm working off a smaller sample size. One thing I notice with the RIS III: It seems as though all of the FDE rails have very different anodizing on the rail vs. the bolt-up plate. It makes me wonder if DD is sending the rails and bolt-up plates to two different sub-contractors for the anodizing. |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: Pictures are of an older RIS II, the newer ones are darker, have black screws, and have a larger hole in the front. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212523_jpg-2678603.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212600_jpg-2678604.JPG RIS II is 2.23" wide and 2.25" tall RIS III is 1.96" wide and 2.16" tall MK18 RIS II is 393 grams RIS III 9.5 is 369 grams The RIS II bottom rail fits on the RIS III but the RIS III bottom rail does not fit on the RIS II. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212116_jpg-2678611.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230119_212133_jpg-2678612.JPG I like that the screws are hex and slotted now but they seem like they can easily cross thread compared to all of my other RIS IIs. I can't wait to get the other 3 rails. I will post pics in a year when that happens. What’s the inner diameter of the RIS3? Almost looks like you can tuck a suppressor into it…? |
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Originally Posted By pezboytate: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/138579/20230125_165935_2_jpg-2685216.JPG Waiting on the other lengths... Hella flush suppressor life.
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Just bought my first Daniel Defense rifle. It's a DD4RIII. First impressions is it's a nice rifle. It has ambi controls and appears solid. For the money, I think it could come with a much better trigger. The one in it isn't good at all. I would kinda expect it from other brands, but for what is touted as a high end rifle and the dollars spent, it's disappointing. I also dislike the furniture, but that's easily changed. I'm assuming one can still buy the quad rail, which is the RII? I'll have to look into getting one of those as I prefer them over Mlock. I haven't shot it yet, but am hoping for an accurate rifle. I hear the DD barrels are very good. |