Mike's OFFICIAL H&R Retro thread (Page 3 of 158)
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: We will have: M16A1 XM177E2 XM16E1 Commando GX-5758 M16A2 635 This list confuses me. I thought there would be a 653 or 723 type. I would prefer a 723 because of ammo compatibility but I'll take a 653. |
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: This list confuses me. I thought there would be a 653 or 723 type. I would prefer a 723 because of ammo compatibility but I'll take a 653. Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: Originally Posted By mike_nds: We will have: M16A1 XM177E2 XM16E1 Commando GX-5758 M16A2 635 This list confuses me. I thought there would be a 653 or 723 type. I would prefer a 723 because of ammo compatibility but I'll take a 653. Sorry, I should have been more clear. That's just the list of approved lower receiver markings we will have. NOT full guns we plan to produce. |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Got some anodizing samples yesterday. Getting closer. I'm going to have them go a hair darker. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/64670C49-0D8C-4BB1-A35C-8FEF7AD22DD2-2371136.jpg My first issue rifle was a HR M16A1 |
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Mike, since the plan seems to be to release receivers before complete rifles, will you be selling grey anodized charging handles and trigger guards to match for those that will be home building their rifle? Thanks for keeping my dream to have a retro clone rifle alive! |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: We are live with a home page. Please do not call Palmetto as the CS people have not been brought into the loop yet. https://hr1871.com/ Please direct all questions to this thread instead of starting new ones. I will post all updates here and in the JJE-H&R thread in the retro forum. Originally Posted By mike_nds: We are live with a home page. Please do not call Palmetto as the CS people have not been brought into the loop yet. https://hr1871.com/ Please direct all questions to this thread instead of starting new ones. I will post all updates here and in the JJE-H&R thread in the retro forum. this is awesome. i used to use you at nodak for my aks and my retro builds. so awesome youre on board with psa now.. makes me love the stuff yall were doing even more!!! Keep up the good work on H&R.. i cant wait to buy some of them! Originally Posted By mike_nds: Why wouldn’t it? Those are going to be the Marquee products. man im so excited to buy a M1 Garand from yall.. that is going to be so awesome to go with my other garand. cant wait!! |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: No M16A1 TDP. I'm going to do my best to make good parts at a higher volume than what we did at NoDak. I have already been giving the machine shops consternation with my details/specs.  please tell me these lowers then will be cut with the m16 cut, instead of just being high shelf or low shelf(low is what psa usually is) but if they are going to be proper retro lowers they will need to be m16 cut too. I hope psa will change their cut too in the near future to being a m16 cut as well. |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: I just submitted a PO for M16A2 and C7 upper forgings today. Lead times are long right now, so I don’t know exactly when we’re going to get them. But it is happening. I’ll post updates when I have them.  I assumed I was going to grab one of your A1 lowers and find a random A2 kit somewhere to build on it, but I like where this is going. An A2 marked lower with a matching upper sounds fantastic. Just out of curiosity, will the H&R line be sold primarily through PSA's website, will it have its own page, or will it go through traditional distribution? |
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We're probably going to have to use the PSA website. However, I'd like to have all my stuff on the H&R website, with a link to the PSA shopping cart. That way it's easier to find. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Update time: Going to be getting my samples shipped out today. Looks like they are getting it figured out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/samples_5-20-22-2390531.jpg  I want to buy so many of these 
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Update time: Going to be getting my samples shipped out today. Looks like they are getting it figured out. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/samples_5-20-22-2390531.jpg I’ll take two of these. They are going to see spray paint so the exact color doesn’t matter. My MK-12’s need the proper lower. |
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Mike, I don’t post in the industry a lot, BUT I am very happy to see things working out with you and PSA. I’ve got a couple of OG NDS Yugo receivers from back in the day. But that’s not why I wanted to post. Some years ago a bunch of us were asking @palmettostatearmory to Make A1/A2 Uppers Great Again. Unfortunately they said it’d likely be a no go, and if they ever did, we’d get pizza (or something along those lines). Well now that you’re here, I believe PalmettoStateArmory owes us a PIZZA PARTY! But, as I’m an eminently practical guy, I’d settle for PSA providing a pizza party for their employees, since they do a heckuva job. I’ll be waiting for pics. |
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Nothing makes me happier than clones done right. The industry has gotten better but a "clone" used to be if you're half blind and got something stuck in your eye and you'd happen to see a gun through a blurry pic on someone's cracked phone screen at 144p resolution at 50ft away it might look like the real thing. I used to think "man why is so hard just to make things right?" Mike, thanks for all the work that you do. Really looking forward to raising the bar for the retro and clone builds out there. |
Got the parts in house this morning. I'm very happy with the results. These were oiled and then wiped down.  ETA: my browser is showing some weird splotches that are not present on the parts. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Got the parts in house this morning. I'm very happy with the results. These were oiled and then wiped down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Oiled_samples-2394431.jpg ETA: my browser is showing some weird splotches that are not present on the parts.  |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Got the parts in house this morning. I'm very happy with the results. These were oiled and then wiped down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Oiled_samples-2394431.jpg ETA: my browser is showing some weird splotches that are not present on the parts. Those look gorgeous. I know I'm jumping the gun here, but do you have a target for when you plan to bring these to market? Especially the M16A1s? |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Got the parts in house this morning. I'm very happy with the results. These were oiled and then wiped down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Oiled_samples-2394431.jpg ETA: my browser is showing some weird splotches that are not present on the parts. Wow, let's go! If you're hosting your images on ARFCOM, they compress the living hell out of 'em - which may explain any artifacts you're seeing online. |
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Mike, I know it’s still fairly early in the game, but do you have an idea of how many receivers y’all will put out on the initial release? I missed the mark on colt, brownells, Original NDS, etc. retro stuff and I definitely don’t want to miss the mark this time around! I have all the other parts ready for a build, just waiting for you to release these bad boys! |
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: Got the parts in house this morning. I'm very happy with the results. These were oiled and then wiped down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Oiled_samples-2394431.jpg ETA: my browser is showing some weird splotches that are not present on the parts. Looking great. So ready. |
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First batch out to ano is only going to be 100 A1 lowers, 100 2 position CAR tubes, and the remaining 80+ NDS uppers. The uppers are a mix of NDS-603, 604, and 605's. Pretty much all of them are going to be blems. They were parts I had culled out for forge flaws or other small things. |
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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I was thinking what to do with some of my test and rona build ARs. I think I know what I want to do now. Take them apart, sell the parts, the make more clones. I built an original Colt M16A1 kit but couldn't find an affordable Colt lower. I went with the Brownells. It looks great but is plain. As the military makes mixmasters out of everything, an H&R lower might look pretty good with the rest of the rifle. I know I will definitely be buying parts for cloning purposes. |
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There's only a handful of NDS-604's left. Typical forge flaw is a crease in the dish below the rear sight on the left side. But we have a few thousand forgings in house, with more coming.
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We are living in a Tom Clancy novel
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
https://hr1871.com/
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Originally Posted By Ygolonac: Only a few thousand? But what are you going to do the week *after* you open up orders? Amen. I'm ready for complete rifles. Can't hardly wait |
We're living in an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway.
Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
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Originally Posted By mike_nds: First batch out to ano is only going to be 100 A1 lowers, 100 2 position CAR tubes, and the remaining 80+ NDS uppers. The uppers are a mix of NDS-603, 604, and 605's. Pretty much all of them are going to be blems. They were parts I had culled out for forge flaws or other small things. So when's the Arfcom early bird limited edition sale? Limit 1 per person who's commented in your threads.
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Originally Posted By Gripen: So when's the Arfcom early bird limited edition sale? Limit 1 per person who's commented in your threads. Originally Posted By Gripen: Originally Posted By mike_nds: First batch out to ano is only going to be 100 A1 lowers, 100 2 position CAR tubes, and the remaining 80+ NDS uppers. The uppers are a mix of NDS-603, 604, and 605's. Pretty much all of them are going to be blems. They were parts I had culled out for forge flaws or other small things. So when's the Arfcom early bird limited edition sale? Limit 1 per person who's commented in your threads.  These blems are going to go out of stock just as quick as all new PSA products.
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Originally Posted By BGENE: +1 Originally Posted By BGENE: Originally Posted By CamoXJeep: Originally Posted By A-10: If only we had a heads up a few hours before they drop. Just a note on here maybe. I agree! +1 Agreed! |
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