Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Page 2 of 18)
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the latest.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmc76h-GCgI would have been happy with a plain Nitride finish. I have parts from you guys with Nitride where a milspec part would have a chrome lining (or some other treatment). I like the Nitride parts better. Good call on not shipping it with a whack trigger though. That's the one thing that would have caused me to send it right back. 
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: That was excellent. Amazing how much time, effort, and money you've put into a $300 pistol -- respect. Originally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the latest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmc76h-GCgThat was excellent. Amazing how much time, effort, and money you've put into a $300 pistol -- respect. Agree...that is the video we need to stop asking when ...lol. Can't wait for it....I'm really glad they are taking their time now, since they were saying they are still having issues that they are working through. This gun needs to be glock ready....right from the start. They know that as well. |
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Total to SAF has been $86,318.87 since Oct.
If the 5 million NRA members did this, the NRA could make $130 million a year, just from members regular purchases.
Total to SAF has been $86,318.87 since Oct.
If the 5 million NRA members did this, the NRA could make $130 million a year, just from members regular purchases.
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the latest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZmc76h-GCgHey Josiah, So as it currently stands, which models are slated to ship this month? Obviously, the base model at $299.99. The complete frame with lower parts at $99.99? A month ago, I believe the model with an RMR cut was three weeks behind the base model. Any chance the RMR cut model "caught up"? Will we see a RMR cut model this month, too? |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Hey Josiah, So as it currently stands, which models are slated to ship this month? Obviously, the base model at $299.99. The complete frame with lower parts at $99.99? A month ago, I believe the model with an RMR cut was three weeks behind the base model. Any chance the RMR cut model "caught up"? Will we see a RMR cut model this month, too? When they are released, the base model will be first. I just talked with Dusty. The others will be behind it, I just don't have an exact date on anything or "how many weeks behind" each other model will be. Thanks, Josiah |
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Thank you, Josiah. Until we hear otherwise, I'll hope for an end of June DAGR base model ship date based on your video last week with Hank Strange. Obviously, if you can ship the base model this month, you can ship the complete frame this month. I can run the frame with my OEM G19.3 upper until which time as the DAGR RMR-cut slide (rear iron sight forward) is available. This will let me get a feel for the ergonomics of the DAGR grip and the Smith & Wesson hinged trigger. Thanks again. |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Thank you, Josiah. Until we hear otherwise, I'll hope for an end of June DAGR base model ship date based on your video last week with Hank Strange. Obviously, if you can ship the base model this month, you can ship the complete frame this month. I can run the frame with my OEM G19.3 upper until which time as the DAGR RMR-cut slide (rear iron sight forward) is available. This will let me get a feel for the ergonomics of the DAGR grip and the Smith & Wesson hinged trigger. Thanks again. I'd guess 100% of the frames will be dedicated to complete pistols for quite a while, given how much demand is out there. |
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: I'd guess 100% of the frames will be dedicated to complete pistols for quite a while, given how much demand is out there. PSA has consistently said since SHOT Show (January) the $99.99 complete frame will ship day one. I'm sure Josiah will let us know if something has changed. |
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You need to change the title of this topic to the "Official DAGR Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Attached File |
| I have shunned hinged triggers due to my fanger pointing to to 1pm instead of 12 noon from the last joint but maybe I'll have to try this one if it does what's claimed here. The hook in S&W type triggers start taking a piece of my finger after 50-75 rounds, which any curved trigger does. Will there be some sort of completely flat trigger mod or will it take aftermarket flat triggers? I'm very interested especially at that price point. |
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Originally Posted By Czechers: I have shunned hinged triggers due to my fanger pointing to to 1pm instead of 12 noon from the last joint but maybe I'll have to try this one if it does what's claimed here. The hook in S&W type triggers start taking a piece of my finger after 50-75 rounds, which any curved trigger does. Will there be some sort of completely flat trigger mod or will it take aftermarket flat triggers? I'm very interested especially at that price point. It will certainly accept aftermarket triggers. |
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Originally Posted By Czechers: I have shunned hinged triggers due to my fanger pointing to to 1pm instead of 12 noon from the last joint but maybe I'll have to try this one if it does what's claimed here. The hook in S&W type triggers start taking a piece of my finger after 50-75 rounds, which any curved trigger does. Will there be some sort of completely flat trigger mod or will it take aftermarket flat triggers? I'm very interested especially at that price point. $299 + a Glock oem frame parts kit (includes trigger) is still about $200 less than a Glock. |
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Originally Posted By brasscrossedrifles: $299 + a Glock oem frame parts kit (includes trigger) is still about $200 less than a Glock. If you can wait a few months, I'm confident you'll be able to buy a PS9 DAGR upper and frame (less lower parts) for well under $299.99 and supply your own OEM lower parts kit. |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: If you can wait a few months, I'm confident you'll be able to buy a PS9 DAGR upper and frame (less lower parts) for well under $299.99 and supply your own OEM lower parts kit. I think these will be hard to find for the rest of the year. |
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Originally Posted By thunderopossom:I think these will be hard to find for the rest of the year. I agree completely. What I should have said is if you can wait a few months, PSA will offer PS9 DAGR parts à la carte. Now as to whether you can find them in stock, that's a whole nother story. |
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i cant wait for these either. really wish though that the threaded barrel version would be released on the same day though as the regular version. |
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Damn you, ziegenbock! I got all excited when I saw both the "New PSA handgun ?... $299" thread and "Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" light up. I'm thinkin', "This is it!" Doh! False alarm. Come on, Josiah. Throw us a bone. Give us something. Thanks to you, this thread is the best source for PS9 DAGR information, but things have been rather quiet lately. Quick update? New issues? |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Damn you, ziegenbock! I got all excited when I saw both the "New PSA handgun ?... $299" thread and "Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" light up. I'm thinkin', "This is it!" Doh! False alarm. Come on, Josiah. Throw us a bone. Give us something. Thanks to you, this thread is the best source for PS9 DAGR information, but things have been rather quiet lately. Quick update? New issues? Same here man. Saw both had new posts and got a little excited. |
| Honestly im starting to get put off by psa just assembling with others parts. They keep say parts supply chain. So most or all of the gun is made out of house. What companies parts are they using? Saw the gd threads about what ever lpk they can get and if you dont buy the fn barrel it could be mossberg or any random company. |
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Originally Posted By UrbancommandoX: Honestly im starting to get put off by psa just assembling with others parts. They keep say parts supply chain. So most or all of the gun is made out of house. What companies parts are they using? Saw the gd threads about what ever lpk they can get and if you dont buy the fn barrel it could be mossberg or any random company. With out of house parts what really matters is the QA standards they hold the suppliers to. You could have the same part coming out of the same shop, and runs for one customer are checked at close intervals with tolerances in .0001", and the parts for the other customer are checked at first piece only with tolerances in .010" and ran until a punch breaks. It really just depends on the customer. |
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Damn you, ziegenbock! I got all excited when I saw both the "New PSA handgun ?... $299" thread and "Official Dagger Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" light up. I'm thinkin', "This is it!" Doh! False alarm. Come on, Josiah. Throw us a bone. Give us something. Thanks to you, this thread is the best source for PS9 DAGR information, but things have been rather quiet lately. Quick update? New issues? Here is the bone I am throwing. We are getting it right the first time. We are doing thorough testing on the final production parts, and then we will start mass producing them. You will see them on the website in the very near future. Thank you, Josiah |
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Columbia, SC 29203
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
[email protected]
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the bone I am throwing. We are getting it right the first time. We are doing thorough testing on the final production parts, and then we will start mass producing them. You will see them on the website in the very near future. Thank you, Josiah or at least the site! |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the bone I am throwing. We are getting it right the first time. We are doing thorough testing on the final production parts, and then we will start mass producing them. You will see them on the website in the very near future.  Any good news? Any progress on the RMR-cut slide? Threaded barrel? 80% frame? Any chance they're catching up to the base model through all this? |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: When I said throw us a bone, I was hoping it would have a little more meat on it. Any good news? Any progress on the RMR-cut slide? Threaded barrel? 80% frame? Any chance they're catching up to the base model through all this? Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the bone I am throwing. We are getting it right the first time. We are doing thorough testing on the final production parts, and then we will start mass producing them. You will see them on the website in the very near future. Any good news? Any progress on the RMR-cut slide? Threaded barrel? 80% frame? Any chance they're catching up to the base model through all this? Hey @wickedbeernut....we got some more info out of them!!!...lol...I'm guessing they are going to launch next week...Thursday/Friday. This is really the best part of what they said "We are getting it right the first time". My only advice to PSA, would be to ONLY make optics ready slides. No new duty ready gun should be made without it. |
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Total to SAF has been $86,318.87 since Oct.
If the 5 million NRA members did this, the NRA could make $130 million a year, just from members regular purchases.
Total to SAF has been $86,318.87 since Oct.
If the 5 million NRA members did this, the NRA could make $130 million a year, just from members regular purchases.
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Originally Posted By ziegenbock: My only advice to PSA, would be to ONLY make optics ready slides. No new duty ready gun should be made without it. They can throw in a cover plate for free for those folks not yet ready for an MRDS. For an extra $50, the PS9 DAGR with an RMR cut, suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel is a MUCH better value. As with the RMR cut, if you’re not ready for a suppressor or compensator, keep the (included) cap on. |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: I agree completely ... with one caveat ... I need the rear iron sight forward. They can throw in a cover plate for free for those folks not yet ready for an MRDS. For an extra $50, the PS9 DAGR with an RMR cut, suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel is a MUCH better value. As with the RMR cut, if you're not ready for a suppressor or compensator, keep the (included) cap on. Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Originally Posted By ziegenbock: My only advice to PSA, would be to ONLY make optics ready slides. No new duty ready gun should be made without it. They can throw in a cover plate for free for those folks not yet ready for an MRDS. For an extra $50, the PS9 DAGR with an RMR cut, suppressor-height sights and threaded barrel is a MUCH better value. As with the RMR cut, if you're not ready for a suppressor or compensator, keep the (included) cap on. |
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your tease https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=barYZ1ydUks&feature=emb_logo |
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Originally Posted By bradbn4: your tease https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=barYZ1ydUks&feature=emb_logo |
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Are you guys aiming for the Dagger to be something new and 'better' than other 9mm pistols that are currently available, or are you aiming for it to be mostly 'a good affordable pistol'? How is the Dagger better than say the Taurus G3 or the IWI Masada, etc which are also in the 'budget friendly' price category? What does the Dagger offer or do well or better than other pistols in the same price range? Waiting a long time for this pistol to be released, but trying to justify waiting longer. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Muledog: Are you guys aiming for the Dagger to be something new and 'better' than other 9mm pistols that are currently available, or are you aiming for it to be mostly 'a good affordable pistol'? How is the Dagger better than say the Taurus G3 or the IWI Masada, etc which are also in the 'budget friendly' price category? What does the Dagger offer or do well or better than other pistols in the same price range? Well, in theory, it does everything exactly the same as guns costing 2-3x as much. Its "glock compatible". If it does what its supposed to, it'll be at least as accurate and reliable as a glock. Or if you haven't seen the polymer80 guys, they're building "glock compatible" guns and spending way more than the cost of a factory glock. The dagger will be similar to those guys, but as a much lower cost. And compared to the other budget guns that are not glock compatible, the Dagger right out of the gate will have 1000x more 3rd party support. A whole ocean of magazine options, aftermarket sights, triggers, billet/extended/low-profile mag releases. Drop in barrels, threaded, ported, caliber swap, extended, stainless, etc. Can you get a 9mm G3 and run out and buy a threaded 357sig barrel and a drum magazine? |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: I never got an answer to the question of who Dusty works for? Does he work for PSA or one of the sister companies under the PSA umbrella? I answered the question in the other thread. He works for a company under the JJE umbrella. He works for our PSA engineering division. Thank you, Josiah |
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Originally Posted By Muledog: Are you guys aiming for the Dagger to be something new and 'better' than other 9mm pistols that are currently available, or are you aiming for it to be mostly 'a good affordable pistol'? For example, PSA has consistently said they'll release the complete (with lower parts) PS9 DAGR frame on day-one for $99.99 MSRP. Although not on day-one, PSA has also assured us they'll offer an 80% version of the PS9 DAGR frame. Imagine a complete PS9 DAGR 80% frame for $79.99 MSRP? And PSA doesn't sell hardly anything at MSRP. Q: Will PSA offer a slide with the rear iron sight cut in front of the RMR? A: Chad Wylie said, "I don't see any issues with the forward rear sight slide cuts. Maybe not day one but it is definately something we can do." As far as I know, if this comes to fruition, PSA would be the first company in the entire industry to offer a G19.3 RMR-cut slide rear iron sight forward ... certainly the first "budget" slide of its type. Industrywide, 40 to 50% of RMR-cut Glock slides are milled rear iron sight forward. Imagine a PS9 DAGR slide RMR-cut rear iron sight forward for $99.99 MSRP? These are just two examples, but this is where I see the PS9 DAGR changing the industry ... more so than a complete G19.3 knock-off for $299.99 MSRP. |
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory: Here is the bone I am throwing. We are getting it right the first time. We are doing thorough testing on the final production parts, and then we will start mass producing them. You will see them on the website in the very near future. Thank you, Josiah Looking forward to the day I have one in my hands! |
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Originally Posted By wickedbeernut: Personally, I'm more excited about that PS9 DAGR (not Dagger) piece parts than I am the whole. For example, PSA has consistently said they'll release the complete (with lower parts) PS9 DAGR frame on day-one for $99.99 MSRP. Although not on day-one, PSA has also assured us they'll offer an 80% version of the PS9 DAGR frame. Imagine a complete PS9 DAGR 80% frame for $79.99 MSRP? And PSA doesn't sell hardly anything at MSRP. Q: Will PSA offer a slide with the rear iron sight cut in front of the RMR? A: Chad Wylie said, "I don't see any issues with the forward rear sight slide cuts. Maybe not day one but it is definately something we can do." As far as I know, if this comes to fruition, PSA would be the first company in the entire industry to offer a G19.3 RMR-cut slide rear iron sight forward ... certainly the first "budget" slide of its type. Industrywide, 40 to 50% of RMR-cut Glock slides are milled rear iron sight forward. Imagine a PS9 DAGR slide RMR-cut rear iron sight forward for $99.99 MSRP? These are just two examples, but this is where I see the PS9 DAGR changing the industry ... more so than a complete G19.3 knock-off for $299.99 MSRP. I'm not sure about your pricing above... P80 serialized frames are anywhere from $20-50 cheaper than the 80% frames, probably because the 80% units require a jig and drill bits. |
Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana
Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
Never mistake a clear view for a short distance.
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: I'm not sure about your pricing above... P80 serialized frames are anywhere from $20-50 cheaper than the 80% frames, probably because the 80% units require a jig and drill bits. Correct. Also, assembled P80 frames cost the same as the 80% kits. |
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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: I'm not sure about your pricing above... P80 serialized frames are anywhere from $20-50 cheaper than the 80% frames, probably because the 80% units require a jig and drill bits. |
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Originally Posted By Kit_Karson: Not to be a thorn... but I am assuming something didn't go right?? Looking forward to the day I have one in my hands! We are just waiting on an ATF approval right now, and then they will be launched! Thanks, Josiah |
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