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Originally Posted By imdBman: Glad the RYG springs worked. Here is my experience with this issue. I did not see this thread after I bought my Blem FDE Compact frame. The mag release was really stiff. I read other threads that said NDZ mag release helped. Ordered one for about $14 shipped, but was still too stiff. I read to replace the spring. I ordered a Glock OEM spring from Big Tex Ordnance for $.99, $3.98 with shipping. Problem was fixed. Nice thing about the NDZ release is it has serrations. I tried Glock OEM springs first and they felt no different than the PSA springs to me. Glad it worked on your gun. |
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Attached File Kind of a dagger. Sort of. Maybe? Ran 3 boxes of ammo through it today after building it over the weekend. It ran 100%. Now it's time to Gucci it out. |
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Originally Posted By Seth_Livzz: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/20909/image_50407937_JPG-3094681.JPG Kind of a dagger. Sort of. Maybe? Ran 3 boxes of ammo through it today after building it over the weekend. It ran 100%. Now it's time to Gucci it out. What frame is that @Seth_Livzz |
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Anyone have an assortment of daggers - specifically with lightening cuts? I’m trying to obtain info on how much weight is saved by more aggressive slide milling Weights in grams would be super cool if anyone had some spare time |
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Originally Posted By AZ_Mike: Sorry if this is a dumb question bit I have been searching for the difference between the Dagger Micro and Micro C-1. Also is the X-1 just a longer slide/barrel? The regular micro is like a G43x. The barrel and slide end flush with the front of the frame. The X-1 is the "extended" version. Like a G48, the barrel and slide are longer and extend past the frame. The C-1 is the "compensated" version. It has an extended length slide but the shorter barrel of the regular version. The extra slide length past the muzzle is bored out and has comp cuts in the top so the end of the slide is acting like a built in compensator. |
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Originally Posted By D_Man: All use the same frame, differences are in the upper assembly. The regular micro is like a G43x. The barrel and slide end flush with the front of the frame. The X-1 is the "extended" version. Like a G48, the barrel and slide are longer and extend past the frame. The C-1 is the "compensated" version. It has an extended length slide but the shorter barrel of the regular version. The extra slide length past the muzzle is bored out and has comp cuts in the top so the end of the slide is acting like a built in compensator. Thanks. Managed to order.a regular Micro today. Just be clear can I use the regular barrel in a C slide should I order one? Can I also use the X barrel? So basically but a base pistol, a C slide, and an X barrel and have all 3 conditions? |
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Originally Posted By AZ_Mike: Thanks. Managed to order.a regular Micro today. Just be clear can I use the regular barrel in a C slide should I order one? Can I also use the X barrel? So basically but a base pistol, a C slide, and an X barrel and have all 3 conditions? I probably would not use an X barrel in the C-1 slide. The muzzle end hole in that slide is wide open since it's a comp, and I'm not sure if it'll stabilize the barrel correctly since they usually bear against the bottom edge of the barrel at the muzzle. You'd have to get PSA's call on that one. |
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Originally Posted By D_Man: The regular short slide and the C-1 slide use the exact same barrel. I probably would not use an X barrel in the C-1 slide. The muzzle end hole in that slide is wide open since it's a comp, and I'm not sure if it'll stabilize the barrel correctly since they usually bear against the bottom edge of the barrel at the muzzle. You'd have to get PSA's call on that one. Thanks. I'll just try to get a X upper. I really don't need a comp for 9mm+p. I shoot a lot of 10mm and compact 40. |
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I just wanted to share that this $44 holster I picked up from Cabela’s fits the Dagger Compact great. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By imdBman: Anyone have the detailed instructions for replacing the slide stop? I have watched videos and tried lifting the release while pushing the pin L to R. Pin won't move. try inserting a mag. The mag follower will push up on the slide-stop tab, use your finger to push down on the back end of the slide-stop, that will help to raise the front of the slide-stop to help get it out of the notch in the trigger-pin. I've found that having a 1/8" punch clamped in a bench vise, pressing on the trigger-pin, while you're pushing the frame and finagling the slide stop, that helps out. one less hand. but you can't apply too much pressure on the back side with the pin punch, otherwise it won't allow the front end of the slide-stop to rise up out of the notch. If you're pushing too hard, it gets clamped in-place in the notch. If you look closely, with good illumination, you can see the ring-end of the slide-stop move upwards, that's when you can apply the back-side pressure to the trigger-pin with the punch. it's still not easy. seems the geometry of the slot that the slide-stop slides into is a little different than on a G19. Probably helps better with trigger-pin retention, it sure as heck ain't gonna walk out on its' own, but makes it difficult to get the pin out. |
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Originally Posted By imdBman: Anyone have the detailed instructions for replacing the slide stop? I have watched videos and tried lifting the release while pushing the pin L to R. Pin won't move. |
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Originally Posted By x248716x: try inserting a mag. The mag follower will push up on the slide-stop tab, use your finger to push down on the back end of the slide-stop, that will help to raise the front of the slide-stop to help get it out of the notch in the trigger-pin. I've found that having a 1/8" punch clamped in a bench vise, pressing on the trigger-pin, while you're pushing the frame and finagling the slide stop, that helps out. one less hand. but you can't apply too much pressure on the back side with the pin punch, otherwise it won't allow the front end of the slide-stop to rise up out of the notch. If you're pushing too hard, it gets clamped in-place in the notch. If you look closely, with good illumination, you can see the ring-end of the slide-stop move upwards, that's when you can apply the back-side pressure to the trigger-pin with the punch. it's still not easy. seems the geometry of the slot that the slide-stop slides into is a little different than on a G19. Probably helps better with trigger-pin retention, it sure as heck ain't gonna walk out on its' own, but makes it difficult to get the pin out. Originally Posted By D_Man: You need to lift the slide stop slightly, and push it forward a bit toward the muzzle. The trigger pin has a groove cut into it the the slide stop rests into due to the force of the slide stop spring pushing it down and back. I usually apply gentle pressure to the pin with a punch while sort of wiggling the slide stop forward and backward to find that sweet spot where it's no longer sitting in the recess in the pin and then the pin will just slide out. You guys are awesome! Worked on it last night for 40 minutes with no progress. 7 minutes after reading your posts, I was able to finesse the pin out and replace my broken slide stop. I have 2 Safariland holsters for my Glock 19. 6378RDS for a Streamlight TLR7 and a 578 standard. Dagger fits in both with a slight adjustment to the tension screw. The Dagger fits and locks in the 6378 without the light. Have not tried it with the light. My Dagger trigger is better than my G19.5. Really liking my Dagger. |
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Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Did $49 frames officially dry up? It’s back, scroll down https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger/frames-frame-parts.html |
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Originally Posted By JWnTN: It’s back, scroll down https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-dagger/frames-frame-parts.html Dam. I just bought a full size FDE frame last week. Oh well, PSA gets an extra $10. My contribution to arming America. |
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Anyone else see this yet? Shooting my Dagger yesterday and the front sight departed the slide. Looks like the screw head broke off. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By cb4017: Anyone else see this yet? Shooting my Dagger yesterday and the front sight departed the slide. Looks like the screw head broke off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240223_132935__Medium__jpg-3139728.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240223_133045__Medium__jpg-3139729.JPG Haven't had one break, had one come loose. Torqued it down with my front sight tool, no more issues. |
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Originally Posted By colklink: Haven't had one break, had one come loose. Torqued it down with my front sight tool, no more issues. Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By cb4017: Anyone else see this yet? Shooting my Dagger yesterday and the front sight departed the slide. Looks like the screw head broke off. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240223_132935__Medium__jpg-3139728.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/45352/20240223_133045__Medium__jpg-3139729.JPG Haven't had one break, had one come loose. Torqued it down with my front sight tool, no more issues. Well, I was able to get it back together. I lucked out and was able to find the sight when it came off. I remembered I had some Glock sights in my parts box from my time as my agency's Glock Armorer. Figured I would try to use one of the Glock sight screws. I was able to get the broken screw out of the Dagger sight. I had to shorten the Glock sight screw with my bench grinder. All back together with some Vibratight. Hopefully it won't go anywhere now. |
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holsters: Dagger fits snugly in the G19 DeSantis Speed Scabbard (leather). Also, the Blackhawk Serpa Sportster for the G19, but everybody hates on the Serpa because of lazy trigger finger discipline resulting in ND. Regardless, a data point. |
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Originally Posted By ar15-joe: The SCT frames are nearly (if not completely) identical. I have 2 of the SCT frames, that one looked a little different. Attached File |
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looks like a Strike Industries logo. https://www.strikeindustries.com/strike80-c.html |
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Originally Posted By colklink: I have 2 of the SCT frames, that one looked a little different. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17974/1000000619_jpg-3173132.JPG Yeah. I guess you’re right. It is a little more different than I thought. Too bad Strike disco’d them. That’s what I wanted, but got the SCT due to price and availability. Then got a Dagger, too, because, “ Get both”. Lol |
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I had an opportunity to put another 200 rounds through the Dagger over the weekend. This brings my round count to 1k thus far. Not a single issue, misfeed, FTE, ect. Practicing from the holster, draw and shoot a double tap, I probably put 190 of those 200 rounds on steel. The RDS is a game changer for me, and I can honestly say I would have never gotten into the RDS game if it wasn’t for this pistol. What an absolute blast to shoot. It’s made handguns fun again  Thanks PSA! |
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So far, I like it. The gun itself cost me $258 plus a transfer fee and shipping. At that price point I am quite impressed. The trigger on mine is actually pretty good too. I'm probably going to add a comp and mag well for this and just have a fun range toy. I've also heard it's not a bad idea to put a Glock striker in there. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: 11 minutes of my striker broke:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUiXw2LAwAThere is an issue. I am an enormous PSA fanboi. But. Attached File Attached File I now own 7 Daggers. I have 1 that's most shot that I have worn out the extractor, about 1000 rounds  Those pictures are off Facebook. Less than 2000 rounds. Their small parts are suspect. I wouldn't trust a Dagger for carry. Unless I changed out the striker and extractor. Edit, changed out with either Glock or a quality aftermarket part. |
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so after reading everything, I am confused. Apparently a standard Dagger slide will work on a gen 3 G19 frame, but a gen 3 G19 slide won't work on a standard Dagger? But lower parts will interchange? I wish there was a Glock to Dagger compatibility chart I could look at. |
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Originally Posted By 50cal: Finally got around to picking up my Dagger frame from the ffl I use. Ordered the frame w/SIG Foxtrot all on the daily deal email special. The light didn't come with the frame. Contacted Support and am waiting to hear back. I love the Dagger frame. Much more comfortable than my gen 3 G19. And the trigger pull is lighter. Big plus. Did you swap the slide from your G19 onto the Dagger without issues? |
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Originally Posted By _DR: so after reading everything, I am confused. Apparently a standard Dagger slide will work on a gen 3 G19 frame, but a gen 3 G19 slide won't work on a standard Dagger? But lower parts will interchange? I wish there was a Glock to Dagger compatibility chart I could look at. No, a Dagger slide will work on a Gen3 Glock, and a Gen3 Glock slide will work on a Dagger frame. I think, other than the locking block and frame pins, all parts are interchangeable now. |
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Originally Posted By _DR: so after reading everything, I am confused. Apparently a standard Dagger slide will work on a gen 3 G19 frame, but a gen 3 G19 slide won't work on a standard Dagger? But lower parts will interchange? I wish there was a Glock to Dagger compatibility chart I could look at. a Gen 3 G19 slide will work fine on a standard Dagger. I have a Glock Gen 3 G19, and a few Daggers, and have swapped the Glock OEM G19 slide onto the Dagger lower, no problem, works fine. ETA: I did swap out the PSA trigger bar for a Glock trigger bar, since I was putting in all Glock parts into the lower, just because, my preference. had to mod the Glock trigger bar to take the PSA hinged trigger. Noticed that the PSA trigger bar has that pimple bump on the fin, whereas the Gen 3 G19 trigger bar fin is flat, no pimple. |
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Attached File G19 slide works fine on a Dagger frame. But you have to modify the trigger bar. In this case I just put all Glock parts in my Dagger frame. |
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Ok. Gonna order a Compact Dagger tonight. Don't really like my OEM glock G19 frame ergos, and the P80 I tried it on has been having a few FTE's every now and then. |
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Originally Posted By _DR: Ok. Gonna order a Compact Dagger tonight. Don't really like my OEM glock G19 frame ergos, and the P80 I tried it on has been having a few FTE's every now and then. do yourself a favor and order the Rock-Your-Glock (RYG) reduced-strength mag-release spring. $5. unfortunately, plus shipping. |
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