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12/14/2012 7:45:30 PM EDT
I received and upper receiver today from Palmetto that instead of having the normal star shaped hole for the gas tube it had a hole drilled through into the upper that is 7/16" round, Completely anodized so it was made that way. Anyone seen upper purposely made that way for anything?

And as usual the order was incorrect as the
holiday sale stripped uppers were advertised as not having feed ramp cuts which is what I need and I was sent uppers with the cuts.
12/14/2012 8:02:33 PM EDT
[#1]
I think i read those are for piston ar's so id contact CS and have them give you the correct one.
12/14/2012 8:05:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Already sent the email just wondering about the upper but I have never heard of an AR upper with a hole big enough for an FAL gas piston to fit through.
12/14/2012 8:07:38 PM EDT
[#3]
All these threads should be cross linked into the business forum as "what not to do"
12/14/2012 8:29:48 PM EDT
[#4]
I fall for cheap the prices every time.
12/14/2012 8:39:59 PM EDT
[#5]
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I fall for cheap the prices every time.


I don't know why they're not viewed as the new botach.
12/14/2012 8:50:58 PM EDT
[#6]
pics or it didn't happen?
12/14/2012 10:16:00 PM EDT
[#7]
Tagged to see how this one plays out
12/15/2012 3:32:08 AM EDT
[#8]
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pics or it didn't happen?



IM me your email address and I will send you a pic. I have never signed up for photo posting anywhere after reading the terms.

After some searching I think it was going to be one of these and changed its mind part way there. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/upper-parts/upper-receivers/innovative-arms-warfighter-adjustable-receiver.html

12/15/2012 3:53:16 AM EDT
[#9]
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pics or it didn't happen?



IM me your email address and I will send you a pic. I have never signed up for photo posting anywhere after reading the terms.

After some searching I think it was going to be one of these and changed its mind part way there. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/upper-parts/upper-receivers/innovative-arms-warfighter-adjustable-receiver.html



http://tinypic.com/
12/15/2012 4:30:11 AM EDT
[#10]
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pics or it didn't happen?



IM me your email address and I will send you a pic. I have never signed up for photo posting anywhere after reading the terms.

After some searching I think it was going to be one of these and changed its mind part way there. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/upper-parts/upper-receivers/innovative-arms-warfighter-adjustable-receiver.html



http://tinypic.com/


I don't click buttons agreeing to "use terms" unless it is something I want.

12/15/2012 5:01:21 AM EDT
[#11]
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo28/xterraadam/PC140020_zpsf2bb006c.jpg

There's his pic
12/15/2012 6:51:44 AM EDT
[#12]
Oh man.
12/15/2012 7:34:40 AM EDT
[#13]
lol, yeah i dont think thats right
12/15/2012 9:03:19 AM EDT
[#14]
Check out this past thread

Straight from PSA
We accidentally received uppers designed for piston driven platforms, and some of them were shipped out before we realized it. It sounds like you received one. Please PM me with your online order number so that we can take care of this for you first thing next week. Sorry for any inconvenience.
12/15/2012 9:27:26 AM EDT
[#15]
Well that makes me feel better. They knew they had a problem over a month ago and I still wound up with one
12/15/2012 12:34:08 PM EDT
[#16]


Oh. My. God.

12/15/2012 1:35:31 PM EDT
[#17]
So let me get this straight.

PSA's employees on the assembly line are putting AR barreled uppers together everyday and then a batch of uppers come through that look nothing like
the previous hundreds that they've been handling for days,weeks or months and not a single person in QC sees anything wrong or different?

So not even a single person says,"uh, this hole thingy where I'm putting this pipe thingy looks different boss".

This has WTF all over it.
12/15/2012 2:25:42 PM EDT
[#18]
What is going on.
12/15/2012 2:30:36 PM EDT
[#19]
Color me worried.
12/15/2012 2:38:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
So let me get this straight.

PSA's employees on the assembly line are putting AR barreled uppers together everyday and then a batch of uppers come through that look nothing like
the previous hundreds that they've been handling for days,weeks or months and not a single person in QC sees anything wrong or different?

So not even a single person says,"uh, this hole thingy where I'm putting this pipe thingy looks different boss".

This has WTF all over it.


They can't even manage to get a gas tube into an upper sometimes.
12/15/2012 2:57:08 PM EDT
[#21]
I remember the thread where they admitted the problem.  You'd think that someone would walk out on the line, gather up the wrong barrels and put them out of reach of the production monkeys.  Management fail.  

Armorers that can't tell one barrel from another.  Production fail.  

Order not checked out the door?  SOP for the QA/QC people.  Quality fail.  

Thread probably going to be ignored for a week like the gift card thread and others?  Customer service fail.  


I wonder how much longer ARFCOM is going to let these clowns advertise here.  
12/15/2012 4:57:16 PM EDT
[#22]
I wonder how many uppers/rifles they put together with these.
12/15/2012 6:00:57 PM EDT
[#23]
thats weird! lol  ive never seen one like that?
12/15/2012 6:30:21 PM EDT
[#24]
It is strange no one caught that.  If it was a small hole, I can see it slipping through, but that thing is pretty obvious.
12/15/2012 6:45:37 PM EDT
[#25]
That's got a "hot dog down the hallway" joke in there somewhere.
12/16/2012 12:24:18 AM EDT
[#26]
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That's got a "hot dog down the hallway" joke in there somewhere.


And that somewhere, is right there dude...! That, is some funny shit...!!!
12/16/2012 6:40:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Somebody please bypass the marketing guy and bring all this stuff to the owner's/principals' attention.  

No entrepreneur/business owner should be letting this stuff happen!  Any SME CEO or COO would have been fired already...
12/16/2012 7:11:45 PM EDT
[#28]
Man, I have bought a bunch of stuff from PSA.  I have never had a problem with their stuff, or my orders.  That said, These guys are starting to scare the crap out of me.  It seems that they mess up more stuff than they get right, screw people on their 10% restock, if you don't like their business, and many other things.  I think Dan had it nailed.  They are starting to be the new Botach.  And we see how shit works for them these days.  This kind of crap is making me real nervous about placing orders with them.  PSA, get your shit together, or people are going to start voting with their wallets.  L2
12/17/2012 5:06:47 AM EDT
[#29]
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Somebody please bypass the marketing guy and bring all this stuff to the owner's/principals' attention.  

No entrepreneur/business owner should be letting this stuff happen!  Any SME CEO or COO would have been fired already...


Look at their website.  They have carefully insulated owners/management from customer feedback.  No names, no contact info, no org chart.

I don't think the owners want to be bothered with inconsequential things like customers.
12/17/2012 6:19:48 AM EDT
[#30]
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Man, I have bought a bunch of stuff from PSA.  I have never had a problem with their stuff, or my orders.  That said, These guys are starting to scare the crap out of me.  It seems that they mess up more stuff than they get right, screw people on their 10% restock, if you don't like their business, and many other things.  I think Dan had it nailed.  They are starting to be the new Botach.  And we see how shit works for them these days.  This kind of crap is making me real nervous about placing orders with them.  PSA, get your shit together, or people are going to start voting with their wallets.  L2


It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.
12/17/2012 6:51:29 AM EDT
[#31]
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It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.


Oh really? I did not know that.
12/17/2012 7:03:26 AM EDT
[#32]
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Man, I have bought a bunch of stuff from PSA.  I have never had a problem with their stuff, or my orders.  That said, These guys are starting to scare the crap out of me.  It seems that they mess up more stuff than they get right, screw people on their 10% restock, if you don't like their business, and many other things.  I think Dan had it nailed.  They are starting to be the new Botach.  And we see how shit works for them these days.  This kind of crap is making me real nervous about placing orders with them.  PSA, get your shit together, or people are going to start voting with their wallets.  L2


It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.


what new management are you referring to?
12/17/2012 7:14:47 AM EDT
[#33]
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Man, I have bought a bunch of stuff from PSA.  I have never had a problem with their stuff, or my orders.  That said, These guys are starting to scare the crap out of me.  It seems that they mess up more stuff than they get right, screw people on their 10% restock, if you don't like their business, and many other things.  I think Dan had it nailed.  They are starting to be the new Botach.  And we see how shit works for them these days.  This kind of crap is making me real nervous about placing orders with them.  PSA, get your shit together, or people are going to start voting with their wallets.  L2


It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.


what new management are you referring to?


New sales manager.
12/17/2012 7:19:26 AM EDT
[#34]
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It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.


12/17/2012 7:31:13 AM EDT
[#35]
How about lock this thread it has gotten way off from my original post about the upper.

Would like to get some answers in my post about returns.
12/17/2012 7:35:52 AM EDT
[#36]
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How about lock this thread it has gotten way off from my original post about the upper.

Would like to get some answers in my post about returns.


What's funny to me is that PSA only acknowledges the guy talking about their management, and NOT the actual problem.
12/17/2012 7:41:22 AM EDT
[#37]
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How about lock this thread it has gotten way off from my original post about the upper.

Would like to get some answers in my post about returns.


What's funny to me is that PSA only acknowledges the guy talking about their management, and NOT the actual problem.


CS will take care of the wrong upper and make it right with the customer.  I don't know how he got one of those as I was under the impression they had all been isolated and removed from an area where our pullers could access them.
12/17/2012 8:08:12 AM EDT
[#38]
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How about lock this thread it has gotten way off from my original post about the upper.

Would like to get some answers in my post about returns.


What's funny to me is that PSA only acknowledges the guy talking about their management, and NOT the actual problem.


CS will take care of the wrong upper and make it right with the customer.  I don't know how he got one of those as I was under the impression they had all been isolated and removed from an area where our pullers could access them.


He is me. And I would still like to get a few simple answers in my post about returns.

12/17/2012 9:04:06 AM EDT
[#39]
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How about lock this thread it has gotten way off from my original post about the upper.

Would like to get some answers in my post about returns.


What's funny to me is that PSA only acknowledges the guy talking about their management, and NOT the actual problem.


I'm amazed they posted in this thread at all. The thread about keyholing in their 5.45 barrels is completely ignored.
12/17/2012 9:06:38 AM EDT
[#40]
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It actually has gotten worse as of late since they acquired new management.




New sales manager.

Is that not correct?


Have you not had an influx of problems in the last few months?
Have you not been locking threads and editing posts at an alarming rate in the last few months?
Have you not been ignoring this thread? http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/224562_1_10_Twist_Rate_on_PSA_5_45x39_16_barrels_____Better_for_mil_surplus_7N6_.html

By all means correct me where I'm wrong.
12/17/2012 9:06:58 AM EDT
[#41]


12/17/2012 9:51:44 AM EDT
[#42]
i was unaware they had a new sales manager.  then again, i dont know the inner workings of their heiarchy.