Posted: 2/28/2002 8:09:16 PM EDT
| What is the difference between the Match Target HBar and the Match Target Competition Hbar rifles? All I see is A2 vs. A3 handles. 1 in 7 vs. 1 in 9 twist. Is there anything else? |
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That's pretty much it. The main difference is the carry handles, ie., integral vs. removable. I think, but could be wrong, that Colt has pretty well gone to 1/9 twist barrels for the commercial barrel configurations. So most MT HBARs will have 1/9's. 1/7 would be available in the military configurations. |
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The MT6700 is the Match Target Competition HBAR has a 20" barel with a 1/9 twist. It has a removable handle with a 3/6 rear sight and a accu-wedge is installed. The MT6601 is the Match Target HBAR with a 20" barrel with a 1/7 twist. It has a fixed handle and a 3/8 rear sight and a accu-wedge is installed. The MT6551 is the Match Target has a 20" A2 profile barrel with a 1/7 twist. It has a fixed handle and a 3/8 rear sight and doesn't have a accu-wedge installed. The MT6551 was discontinued in 2001. It's too bad because the A2 profile has a better balance than the HBAR profile. |
| JMR, other than the rate of twist, is there any other difference in the barrels? I mean are they same size. Heavy or light? What is the difference between 3/6 and 3/8 on the rear sight? Any advantage between the two? Also does the accu-wedge make that much difference? I appreciate it. |
| JMR, other than the rate of twist, is there any other difference in the barrels? I mean are they same size. Heavy or light? What is the difference between 3/6 and 3/8 on the rear sight? Any advantage between the two? Also does the accu-wedge make that much difference? I appreciate it. |
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The 3/6 and 3/8 refers to 300/600 and 300/800 meters of elevation. With a removable handle the rear sight can't be as tall therefore it's 300 to 600 meters instead of 300 to 800 meters. All the MT barrels after 1997 or 1998 are chrome chambered only, the barrels are not chrome lined anymore. But with Colt there are always exceptions. I think they assemble a rifle with whatever parts are handy at the time. This is why there are such wide variations in the configuration. Read some of the post in the Colt forum. The MT6700 and MT6601 are the HBAR profile so they are a little more than a pound heavier than the A2 profile of the MT6551. If you are planning on shooting in competition stay with the fixed handle models such as the MT6551 and the MT6601. The removeble handle model MT6700 is not legal in competition. Funny to call it competition model when it's not legal in competition. The 1x7 twist of the MT6551 and MT6601 will stabilize heavier projectiles. The lighter projectiles such as 45 grain will be a problem with such a fast twist. The 1x9 twist is a good compromise that is why Bushmaster chose it. The accu-wedge helps keep the upper and lower tighter. I don't think it contributes that much, but in competition every bit helps. The bottom line is what do you want with the rifle ? Is it for hunting or target shooting? I've owned the MT6700,MT6601 and the MT6551. I like the MT6551 the most because it's A2 profile barrel is lighter and the balance is better. If you are going to carry around your rifle for hunting, you'll appreciate the weight difference. The A2 profile of the MT6551 is the same as the M16A2 in service right now. Last year I used my MT6551 to get a 65 pound buck. Hope this helps.... |
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Errol, Try some of these links for more info. www.srtsupply.com/vendor/colt/mt.htm With the Colt web pages the picture shows a detachable handle instead of fixed. www.colt.com/colt/html/a2f3_matchtar.html www.colt.com/colt/html/a2g4_matchtarhbar.html www.colt.com/colt/html/a2g5_matchtarcomphbar.html |
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If your serial number starts CHxxxxx then its a pre-ban because post-ban will be CCHxxxx. A pre-ban will have a flash suppressor on the barrel too. If you take off the hand guards and look behind the front sight base there should be a date stamping. You might try calling Colt and they will give you the year is was made and confirm it's a pre-ban. Nice find, how much did it run you ? |
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I paid $1000 even for it. I would say it is around 95% condition. Very clean and looks brand new. It has no bayo lug. I thought long and hard about my 2nd AR. My first was a cr6724. I wasn't sure on the 2nd one, 6700 or 6601. I thought the A3 would be a better all around rifle. Able to use different sights and all. I can't believe you can't use a "match" Colt for "match" competition. Not that I want to shoot competively anyway. But I am definitely hook big time on Colt. What does C MP mean on the barrel? I forgot. It is nice to get all this info from you and the other members of this board. Errol |
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You can use the rifle for competition but it will have to be in the MATCH category not the SERVICE RIFLE. The service rifle category is basically a fixed handle 20" barreled rifle the the match category is anything goes as long as it's a 20" barrel and on up to the full race gun. Usually if you want to try shooting in a match you can get away with a R6700 in the service rifle class. It sounds like you got a great deal on it. Does it have the raised magazine fence and if so is it drilled for the front push-pin ? The R6700 I don't believe ever had the bayonet lug. You have a great base for building a M4 or rather a Mforgery as they are referred to here. |
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Errorl, The quickest way to tell is if there is a small hole drilled in the side of the fence. It will be about a inch down from the front pivot screw. The other thing to check is you remove the front pivot screw and verify if the fence has a hole drilled in it. For whatever reason it seems that allot of R6700/MT6700 where drilled but it's really random if the fenced is drilled or not. My MT6700 and MT6551 are drilled and the MT6601 wasn't, gotta love Colt on that... Jim |
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Errol, The hole is there to hold the spring and detent pin for the front push pin. It's works the same as the rear pin, just push it out (no tools required for takedown). It's just a convenience factor thats all. There are competent gunsmiths on this board who have drill for the detent pin if you are interested. Jim |