Posted: 12/22/2014 1:42:35 AM EDT
So I'm really liking the PredatAR, but a friend of mine just received his PredatOBR. It is a really nice rifle and we compared it favorably to his KAC LPR. Ok, they both shot the same, but we both favored the Larue on looks.  .
In any case, I'm wondering what the differences are between the two. From a google search, it seems: The predatOBR's forend can be quickly disassembled? This is not a factor for me. It also seems to be a bit heavier, splitting the weight between the predatAR and OBR. Is there any other difference? Are the barrels the same contour? Can I expect the same accuracy between the two? My friend's is the 18" predatOBR, but I'm looking more into the 16" version. |
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The PredatOBR is designed as a fully capable suitcase rifle that can be completely broken down and carried in a compact case or backpack, reassembled for firing and exhibit minimal shift in point of impact. Outfitted with the same barrel as the OBR, which is a nearly constant taper from the chamber to the gas block and straight from the gas block to the muzzle at roughly 0.75" IIRC, and has the PST "Port Selector Technology" gas block for switching between suppressed and unsuppressed shooting. It includes a barrel nut wrench specifically designed for the PredatOBR barrel nut.
The PredatAR is a lighter weight chassis with a lighter weight and slimmer profile barrel, which crowns to a thicker shoulder at the seat of the muzzle threads. The handguard is "fixed" which is to say it requires hand tools for disassembly, as opposed to the PredatOBR's Quick Detach design and included barrel nut wrench. The PredatAR has a "normal" style of low-profile gas block that is non-adjustable. Both are excellent choices in the 7.62 platform. |
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The predatOBR's forend can be quickly disassembled? This is not a factor for me. It also seems to be a bit heavier, splitting the weight between the predatAR and OBR. Is there any other difference? Are the barrels the same contour? Can I expect the same accuracy between the two? The handguard can be removed and replaced without tools but that's just to access the barrel for changing it (like sooner said). The tOBR defiantly does not split the difference between the OBR and tAR. My 16" tOBR and OBR are within ounces of each other. The barrels are different between the tAR and OBR, much heavier on the tOBR and "pencil" on the tAR but your accuracy is going to be very similar unless your shooting more-ish rapidly IMHO. |
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Thanks for that. The takedown ability is not something I really need, so it looks like I'll be going with a predatAR. Although the gas block on the predatOBR looks interesting. I'd say that would be the way to go, quite of a bit of extra scratch for something you don't need to go with the tOBR. I fly a lot with my rifles, tired of lugging around a full rifle case so I went with the tOBR in anticipation of additional barrels for hunting and fitting everything in a carry-on size case. |
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Then understand that the PredatOBR is the same as the PredatAR, EXCEPT that it has the OBR barrel with PST gas block, and the barrel and hanhandguard are removable via a quick detach system. Internally, the PredatOBR has a nicer trigger and a fully chromed BCG (Bolt AND Carrier). Sometime soon, all LT rifles will ship with their new MBT, per Mark LaRue. |
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Start with this: http://i60.tinypic.com/2i7lp36.jpg Then understand that the PredatOBR is the same as the PredatAR, EXCEPT that it has the OBR barrel with PST gas block, and the barrel and hanhandguard are removable via a quick detach system. Internally, the PredatOBR has a nicer trigger and a fully chromed BCG (Bolt AND Carrier). Sometime soon, all LT rifles will ship with their new MBT, per Mark LaRue. The bolt isn't chromed on the 5.56. |
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Quoted: Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). Quoted: Quoted: My understanding is that the OBR is actually a little lighter than the PredatOBR. Can someone with both verify this with a scale? Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). I'm assuming you have both and weighed them? |
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Sorry don't have a 7.62 tAR or 5.56 OBR. With RATs the OBR was 9#9.5oz and the tOBR was like 5 oz less. As I recall I was only weighing it be cause one of them wasn't listed on LTs site and I was at the safe so threw the other on the scale to validate what was on LTs site.
The difference between the tOBR and tAR was significant, well over a pound. |
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Quoted: Sorry don't have a 7.62 tAR or 5.56 OBR. With RATs the OBR was 9#9.5oz and the tOBR was like 5 oz less. As I recall I was only weighing it be cause one of them wasn't listed on LTs site and I was at the safe so threw the other on the scale to validate what was on LTs site. The difference between the tOBR and tAR was significant, well over a pound. Ok. Cool. It would be interesting to see what the different rifles weighed without barrels. I think I'm going to buy a 7.62 TAR and put my TOBR's MG barrel in it (like was done recently by one of the poster in this forum). In my opinion, that would be the best of both worlds. |
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My understanding is that the OBR is actually a little lighter than the PredatOBR. Can someone with both verify this with a scale? Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). I'm assuming you have both and weighed them? Nope I live in my mom's basement and eat cheatoes while sitting on the toilet posting on random internet forums
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My understanding is that the OBR is actually a little lighter than the PredatOBR. Can someone with both verify this with a scale? Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). I'm assuming you have both and weighed them? Nope I live in my mom's basement and eat cheatoes while sitting on the toilet posting on random internet forums
<a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141129_185508_zpseda96930.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20141129_185508_zpseda96930.jpg</a> Missing a few... 
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My understanding is that the OBR is actually a little lighter than the PredatOBR. Can someone with both verify this with a scale? Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). I'm assuming you have both and weighed them? Nope I live in my mom's basement and eat cheatoes while sitting on the toilet posting on random internet forums
<a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141129_185508_zpseda96930.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20141129_185508_zpseda96930.jpg</a> Too shay.
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My understanding is that the OBR is actually a little lighter than the PredatOBR. Can someone with both verify this with a scale? Nope. In the 7.62 the tOBR is a few ounces lighter. Think it was 5oz (for 16"). I'm assuming you have both and weighed them? Nope I live in my mom's basement and eat cheatoes while sitting on the toilet posting on random internet forums
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Ok. Cool. It would be interesting to see what the different rifles weighed without barrels. I think I'm going to buy a 7.62 TAR and put my TOBR's MG barrel in it (like was done recently by one of the poster in this forum). In my opinion, that would be the best of both worlds. Quoted:
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Sorry don't have a 7.62 tAR or 5.56 OBR. With RATs the OBR was 9#9.5oz and the tOBR was like 5 oz less. As I recall I was only weighing it be cause one of them wasn't listed on LTs site and I was at the safe so threw the other on the scale to validate what was on LTs site. The difference between the tOBR and tAR was significant, well over a pound. Ok. Cool. It would be interesting to see what the different rifles weighed without barrels. I think I'm going to buy a 7.62 TAR and put my TOBR's MG barrel in it (like was done recently by one of the poster in this forum). In my opinion, that would be the best of both worlds. While it would be cool, and I might have to have one, the versatility of the tOBR far out weighs the extra ounce or so it would probably be to have the tOBR. I think there is a shop in Renton and another in Tacoma that usually have some Larues lay in around. Really recommend you go try one out. FWIW I'm hoping Mark puts out some tAR profile barrels, I would switch my girls guns from tARs to tOBRs. |