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I'd go direct to shop or Dan my sales guy with this one, but I don't want to slow down the important stuff that is going on in the plant.
Even with a few orders in queue, I just recently bought a lightly used OBR. Living in Maryland and seeing what just went down in NY, I figure paying a few exrta bucks was worth it to make sure I have one, after shooting one this past Oct, loving it and placing my order. Anyway, while I somewhat understand the concept of the slope of the rail on the OBR, I need some advice on the mount. I'm leaning toward a Bushnell Elite FFP 50mm glass. I have a set of Millett Tactical Rings that I have used on other AR platforms. Even with the size of the exit lens and sun shield I think they will still fit, but nothing lost if they don't, as I already have them. My question is what is the impact of the MOA slope of the rail on the function of the scope? Will I still be able to effectively use the holdover function of a GD2 reticle, or will will I need to dial in my distance shots? I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to this, so along with some direct advice, if anyone can point me to the proper reference source so I can learn more about this concept I would be grateful. Thanks for the help. |
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Do you have a 5.56 or a 7.62 OBR ? Congrats btw...
I ask because I think the 5.56 has 10 MOA rail while the 7.62 has a 20 MOA rail. The MOA (Minute of Angle) measures how much of a "cant" or "angle" is in the rail. I'm not familiar with your GD2 reticle. Do you have a link to it ? The bottom line is the MOA cant that's built into the top rail won't affect how you zero the scope. You'll still need to bore sight it or shoot on a large piece of paper and adjust the elevation and windage as normal. Do you normally zero your rifle at 100yds ? |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree.
I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. LT120 will fit just fine.  That's a 50mm obj BTW. I just swapped out the LT111 since it was too high for me. I'll put up additional pics in another thread later on.
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. LT120 will fit just fine. That's a 50mm obj BTW. I just swapped out the LT111 since it was too high for me. I'll put up additional pics in another thread later on.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/bad_company1/IMG_1315.jpg Damn it. Is that a Bushnell HDMR in the pic? Thought my measurement and conversion from inches might be mm was f'*ck up, but I just remeasured and the exit objective is at 2 3/16. or 2.1875", which my converter shows as 55.56 mm ". Oh well, if it's too high, which it probably will be...:(.....I'm sure I won't loose much on EE if I go with the 120 and end up selling one. |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. LT120 will fit just fine. That's a 50mm obj BTW. I just swapped out the LT111 since it was too high for me. I'll put up additional pics in another thread later on.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/bad_company1/IMG_1315.jpg Damn it. Is that a Bushnell HDMR in the pic? Thought my measurement and conversion from inches might be mm was f'*ck up, but I just remeasured and the exit objective is at 2 3/16. or 2.1875", which my converter shows as 55.56 mm ". Oh well, if it's too high, which it probably will be...:(.....I'm sure I won't loose much on EE if I go with the 120 and end up selling one. No, it's a Leupold Mk4. Any 50mm obj scope will be the same though. 50mm/2=25mm (giving you the distance from the optic centerline to the bottom of the obj). 25mm=.98". So with a 50mm obj scope you'll need at LEAST .98" high scope rings to make this work. Keep in mind that doesn't take into account scope caps, etc. The LT120 provides 1.285" of clearance, a difference of .3". Just for reference, here is the same scope with the LT111 mount 
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Congrats on the OBR and the HDMR. That Bushnell HDMR is one hell of a scope. I own three of the 3.5-21's and the new 4.5-30x and love them. The OBR specific mount mentioned will work for for you. Another option is you wanted to run dedicated rings is to get the Seekins high rings and it will work perfect. I have an HDMR in an LT104 and one an LT158 and it runs fine on my OBR with no issues. I do however run the new Bushnell XRS on my OBR in a set of high Seekins rings with no issues.
Here is an old photo of my OBR with the HDMR with a set of Seekins high rings just for reference. I have since replaced the HDMR with the new Bushnell XRS. Both the HDMR and the XRS are the same scope but the XRS is 4.5-30, 10 mil per turn and has the zero stop. 
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. LT120 will fit just fine. That's a 50mm obj BTW. I just swapped out the LT111 since it was too high for me. I'll put up additional pics in another thread later on.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/bad_company1/IMG_1315.jpg Damn it. Is that a Bushnell HDMR in the pic? Thought my measurement and conversion from inches might be mm was f'*ck up, but I just remeasured and the exit objective is at 2 3/16. or 2.1875", which my converter shows as 55.56 mm ". Oh well, if it's too high, which it probably will be...:(.....I'm sure I won't loose much on EE if I go with the 120 and end up selling one. Mounted the LT111 this evening. I'll post pictures when I find a hosting website....:*)...anyway recomendations? My rail clearance with the HDMR and the LT111 is just about 3/8 inch. Not sure if the LT120 would have worked, but it feels like the 111 with a Magpul and a riser is about right. I'll know when I have chance to soot it this weekend. Thanks for all of the input. |
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Congrats on the OBR and the HDMR. That Bushnell HDMR is one hell of a scope. I own three of the 3.5-21's and the new 4.5-30x and love them. The OBR specific mount mentioned will work for for you. Another option is you wanted to run dedicated rings is to get the Seekins high rings and it will work perfect. I have an HDMR in an LT104 and one an LT158 and it runs fine on my OBR with no issues. I do however run the new Bushnell XRS on my OBR in a set of high Seekins rings with no issues. Here is an old photo of my OBR with the HDMR with a set of Seekins high rings just for reference. I have since replaced the HDMR with the new Bushnell XRS. Both the HDMR and the XRS are the same scope but the XRS is 4.5-30, 10 mil per turn and has the zero stop. http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy163/mobius38/Guns/Need%20to%20Organize/DSC_3694_zps49153910.jpg That is beautiful, sir. |
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Ah, very familiar with that scope and reticle. Pretty good glass for the money, too. I have the "old" GAP reticle in my USO which is basically that without the windage or christmas tree. I think you're gonna want to invest in this bad boy: http://www.laruetactical.com/lt120 I know it'll fit a 50mm obj scope on the 7.62 OBR based on Post #3436297. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=303062&Number=3436652 Larue makes top notch mounts. I don't have any experience with Lever vs. VFZ but I don't think you can go wrong with either one. You could also use those specs to find another mount (albeit of likely lesser quality) for reference. So yeah, however you mount the scope up. You won't have a problem with the 20MOA rail. You'll actually be glad you have that 20 MOA as it will allow you to dial on more elevation for longer shots without your turrets maxing out. So when you run that OBR out to 1000, you can dial elevation or hold using the reticle. Hope this helps. Enjoy! The rail having a 20 MOA cant to it just makes your line of sight be at a slightly downward angle in relationship to the bore. You'll have to dial on elevation to zero the scope but you won't have any problems at all using that scope on your OBR. You'll still be able to hold .5 mil from 100yds to 200yds and 1.5 mil from 100yds to 300yds to connect your shots. Assuming you're shooting a 175gr SMK at approximately 2500ish ft/sec. Thanks for the great info. Get the rifle in a week....we already have background checks in the great state on MD. Get wait to give it all a workout. Got a buddy who has some family land in PA where I might actually get to try it out to 1000yds. Looking forward to that. Thanks again. Finally got the rifle. Took 48 days for the paperwork to clear. 5 days was the norm prior to October. Read in the local paper that MD State Police received more applications for restricted firearms...over 50,000....in Nov and Dec.....more than the total for all of 2011. They are processing 21 hours a day...would be running 24/day but the computers are down 3 hours per day. Interesting. Anyway, ended up with the LT111. Measured the scope and unless my math was wrong... which it could have been.... the LT120 would have been a bit tight, if not too low, for the HDMR. Thanks for the feedback. LT120 will fit just fine. That's a 50mm obj BTW. I just swapped out the LT111 since it was too high for me. I'll put up additional pics in another thread later on.
http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/bad_company1/IMG_1315.jpg Damn it. Is that a Bushnell HDMR in the pic? Thought my measurement and conversion from inches might be mm was f'*ck up, but I just remeasured and the exit objective is at 2 3/16. or 2.1875", which my converter shows as 55.56 mm ". Oh well, if it's too high, which it probably will be...:(.....I'm sure I won't loose much on EE if I go with the 120 and end up selling one. Mounted the LT111 this evening. I'll post pictures when I find a hosting website....:*)...anyway recomendations? My rail clearance with the HDMR and the LT111 is just about 3/8 inch. Not sure if the LT120 would have worked, but it feels like the 111 with a Magpul and a riser is about right. I'll know when I have chance to soot it this weekend. Thanks for all of the input. Got it mounted. Not the best Pics, but here is a try. I'm thinking the LT111 is the right mount. Rifle Rear clearance Front clearance |
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http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y487/carlhwv/20130322_073951_zps3cde9325.jpg It must be nice to have room to flip up your front lens cover without hitting it on the front sight  I don't, well I do but I have to bend the cover ever so slightly  So how do you like that HDMR? |
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http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y487/carlhwv/20130322_073951_zps3cde9325.jpg It must be nice to have room to flip up your front lens cover without hitting it on the front sight I don't, well I do but I have to bend the cover ever so slightly So how do you like that HDMR? I put it on my .270 WBY Bolt gun while I waited for my OBR. I put a box of shells through it, and shot as well as with my Leupold VX-6. I've been a Leupold guy for 30 years, as they have always worked well and their warranty, in book, is second to none. I bought an old VX-II on Ebay, used......couldn't get he cross hairs to move....sent is back to the shop, and they completely refurbed it...all under warranty. When they say 'lifetime of the scope' that what they mean....... Anyway, I bought a Bushnell trail camera a few years back. Over the following two year, I had a couple different problems, but except for $10 in shipping cost, they sent me a new one each time. While I definitely had a question about their quality, they honored their product. I now have 3 of them and they all work great. I ordered a tOBR direct from LaRue and with the order speced out a Leupold Tactical. I figured at just under 3K (Scope and mount) I'd put my bet on something that would last for life. Maybe there are better scopes out there for guys that really know how to use them, but for me, knowing I'd never have to buy another and taking into account the quality I have experienced in the top line products, it was good enough for me. In between my tOBR lower being shipped, I was at the local range. During non-hunting season, when every hillbilly comes out of the woods to sight their rifles in, on a normal Sunday, we have some real shooters. I usually take a couple different guns, a couple hundred rounds, and hang out.. It's cool, pretty small town deal, but close enough to DC where we do get a some what transient group.....it s a public range and with a fairly a fairly diverse group and a bunch of guys, many like like me ,buys stuff, trying it out, and usually end up selling it....me and the wife have a 20 unit limit deal.....but I'm always looking for number 21....:*). This is where I got exposed to an OBR with a HDMR. Again, because of the type of place it is, I traded my Les Baer .45 and a box of shell for a go at the OBR with a box of shell. I was literally blown away. Shooting sub .5 MOA groups is something I've never done, let alone with a gun I've never fired. I'm sure it was a combo of the gun, good ammo, and a solid optic. I was surprised to see it was an Bushnell, as knowing a little about these rifles....most people that spend this kinda dough on a rifle don't skimp on a scope.....and while I have been impressed with their service, I've definitely had quality issues, though with an entirely different animal.....a small plastic game camera isn't in the league with a 2lb piece of glass. I didn't like the reticle...H58 or H59, but I'm sure that one has its place. They guy that own it knew how to use it and he said having used stuff that cost over twice the price, there was noting that would prevent him from putting it one the line with this optic....and I know, he has put it on the line more than once. Still, I liked it enough....both the OBR and the scope, to buy a used OBR and top it with the scope, in the more appealing to my eye, G2. I've finally got everything together....need to mount my Titan break and will be running it hard in two weeks. The scope is a heavy piece of glass. It really does weigh 2 pounds. The clarity is great and its a FFP. While I now know how this comes into play, I can't comment on it,as I have no experience. Have been spending some time with it mounted to my WBY and with a laser range finder, have been practing ranging things. I've got a good heard of deer to practice on. one thing I note, and I'm not suer if its a function of old eyes or a 3.5x21 scope, but when I crank it up all the way....been using it as a spooting scope as well, I find I need to play with he focus to get the best picture compared to looking through it at say 12x. So time will tell. I like what I've seen so far, no a guy that knows his stuff that is more than pleased with it, and spent half of what I would have on what I putting on my tOBR and got an extra 3X out of it. They state a lifetime warranty, but is is conditional. Leupold sent me a new one for one I dropped hunting Mullies in the Rockies. You can pick the up for a pretty reasonable price right now. Their latest generation is has a zero stop, which my version does not and I think they changed the power range, but not sure. Bottom line: to me, it's worth a try, as Ill probably have at least a few months t see if I really want to spend twice the $$ for less power, less weight, and the best warranty on the planet. Hope this helps. Something I could use some help with. Tried to post pics an they only showed up as hyper links. Can someone point me to the post the talks me though getting them to show up in the body of the message? Thanks. |
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Its nice to see how you found the HDMR. I love that scope so much that I have three of the 3.5-21 with the G2DMR (1 on a full LTR Stealth, 1 on an 762 OBR, and the 3rd on a Remington 700) and I own the new XRS that you spoke of (waiting on a 6.5CM from GAP). All are clear and are great scopes. The thing that I can not say enough of is that the Bushnell line with the hunting scopes and the Bushnell of the past really is no more. Bushnell has changed so much as a company its not even funny. They really are starting to compete with likes of NF and USO. I am really impressed with that HDMR so much that the two USO's that I own and the S&B that I have sit in my safe. I would never in a million years sell that S&B but the USO are on there way out.
I wish I had the photo that Mark posted on Facebook with the target that Rick Perry shot with an OBR and an HDMR to post here. That tells you a little something about the Bushnell HDMR. I dont think that Mark would put a crappy piece of glass on an OBR and then let someone like Rick Perry shoot it. Hell if someone has the photo please post it. |
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Its nice to see how you found the HDMR. I love that scope so much that I have three of the 3.5-21 with the G2DMR (1 on a full LTR Stealth, 1 on an 762 OBR, and the 3rd on a Remington 700) and I own the new XRS that you spoke of (waiting on a 6.5CM from GAP). All are clear and are great scopes. The thing that I can not say enough of is that the Bushnell line with the hunting scopes and the Bushnell of the past really is no more. Bushnell has changed so much as a company its not even funny. They really are starting to compete with likes of NF and USO. I am really impressed with that HDMR so much that the two USO's that I own and the S&B that I have sit in my safe. I would never in a million years sell that S&B but the USO are on there way out. I wish I had the photo that Mark posted on Facebook with the target that Rick Perry shot with an OBR and an HDMR to post here. That tells you a little something about the Bushnell HDMR. I dont think that Mark would put a crappy piece of glass on an OBR and then let someone like Rick Perry shoot it. Hell if someone has the photo please post it. Again, I can't figure out to get them to show in line on the message, but here is a link to the target you are speaking of: HDMR on OBR |
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How do you get the pic to show up in the thread? I'm trying the pic icon and l can get is a link. I'm sure it's just 'stupid newbie error.....' |
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Congrats on the OBR and the HDMR. That Bushnell HDMR is one hell of a scope. I own three of the 3.5-21's and the new 4.5-30x and love them. The OBR specific mount mentioned will work for for you. Another option is you wanted to run dedicated rings is to get the Seekins high rings and it will work perfect. I have an HDMR in an LT104 and one an LT158 and it runs fine on my OBR with no issues. I do however run the new Bushnell XRS on my OBR in a set of high Seekins rings with no issues. Here is an old photo of my OBR with the HDMR with a set of Seekins high rings just for reference. I have since replaced the HDMR with the new Bushnell XRS. Both the HDMR and the XRS are the same scope but the XRS is 4.5-30, 10 mil per turn and has the zero stop. Is the XRS shipping? I guess apparently it is! After reading your post I went looking and it seemed like they weren't out , yet. Plus, for commonality, I'll probably wait for the H59 reticle. I truly love my HDMR. What tripod is that and are you happy shooting from it? Thanks, Kerry |
| Sunshade or not? I guess the answer is 'if its sunny.....;*)'....just I've never had anything with a shade like this before and in quite a few pic's I see people running them both ways. What are the pluses and minuses? Weight isn't an issue......dang thing weighs a ton with the hardware and a loaded clip. Not planning on doing much offhand shooting anyway. Can't wait to get this running right. I'm guess different muzzle breaks might change the impact point? I don't want to start using up my good ammo until I have it set up how I'm going to run it and still need to get the proper high temp Loctite for the Titan break before I start blowing through any more Match Ammo, as it is pretty hard to come by. |
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Its nice to see how you found the HDMR. I love that scope so much that I have three of the 3.5-21 with the G2DMR (1 on a full LTR Stealth, 1 on an 762 OBR, and the 3rd on a Remington 700) and I own the new XRS that you spoke of (waiting on a 6.5CM from GAP). All are clear and are great scopes. The thing that I can not say enough of is that the Bushnell line with the hunting scopes and the Bushnell of the past really is no more. Bushnell has changed so much as a company its not even funny. They really are starting to compete with likes of NF and USO. I am really impressed with that HDMR so much that the two USO's that I own and the S&B that I have sit in my safe. I would never in a million years sell that S&B but the USO are on there way out. I wish I had the photo that Mark posted on Facebook with the target that Rick Perry shot with an OBR and an HDMR to post here. That tells you a little something about the Bushnell HDMR. I dont think that Mark would put a crappy piece of glass on an OBR and then let someone like Rick Perry shoot it. Hell if someone has the photo please post it. What lens caps do you prefer for the 3.5x21x? |
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Its nice to see how you found the HDMR. I love that scope so much that I have three of the 3.5-21 with the G2DMR (1 on a full LTR Stealth, 1 on an 762 OBR, and the 3rd on a Remington 700) and I own the new XRS that you spoke of (waiting on a 6.5CM from GAP). All are clear and are great scopes. The thing that I can not say enough of is that the Bushnell line with the hunting scopes and the Bushnell of the past really is no more. Bushnell has changed so much as a company its not even funny. They really are starting to compete with likes of NF and USO. I am really impressed with that HDMR so much that the two USO's that I own and the S&B that I have sit in my safe. I would never in a million years sell that S&B but the USO are on there way out. I wish I had the photo that Mark posted on Facebook with the target that Rick Perry shot with an OBR and an HDMR to post here. That tells you a little something about the Bushnell HDMR. I dont think that Mark would put a crappy piece of glass on an OBR and then let someone like Rick Perry shoot it. Hell if someone has the photo please post it. What lens caps do you prefer for the 3.5x21x? Shot it a bunch today.. The Lt120 is perfect ....at least for me. |