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11/12/2010 9:04:44 PM EDT
So, I'm trying to put these damn things on and I just want to make sure I'm not crazy. They are really hard to put on! I was under the impression I'd be able to freely move it down the rail to position and then just lock it in place with the index clips. I can't even get that sucker on more than a half inch of rail and it looks like it's beginning to gouge the index clip. Is this normal? Do I just have to keep working it down? Should I have used some kind of a lubricant to assist? Should I just hammer it down? Why is this sounding so dirty?

ETA: Success!!! Damn, those things are never coming off and not because they bruised my hands. They are suh-weet!! Some sections of the rail, they slid down easily. I'm very pleased with this product - highly recommended!

Here are a couple of shot of the placement of the handstops for documentary purposes. They work exactly as designed.






Gotta show off the rifle - er, pistol - now. The handstops are not only a very practical safety feature to have on an AR pistol or any SBR with a very short barrel, but they produce a consistent index point for the support hand to return to every time the pistol is handled. I had my eye on these handstops for quite some time and, like many, was simply waiting for FDE to buy. I believe I'm going to have to pick up another set I am so impressed. If I get me some TROY sights in FDE, I'll almost be a certified mall ninja!!

11/12/2010 9:09:13 PM EDT
[#1]
They are pretty tight. Although it wasn't THAT hard to get it on. This is reminding me of those TD VFGs

Just work it a little and the plastic will slowly shave away.
11/12/2010 9:17:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I believe it is now removing the anodizing from my rail.
11/12/2010 9:35:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I believe it is now removing the anodizing from my rail.


11/13/2010 12:25:09 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I believe it is now removing the anodizing from my rail.


Is that even physically possible?
11/13/2010 4:19:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Mine slid fairly easy....on my LT rail.
11/13/2010 4:24:07 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Mine slid fairly easy....on my LT rail.


this

OP, what brand rail are you using?
11/13/2010 4:24:36 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Mine slid fairly easy....on my LT rail.


Yeah... I got an LT rail.
11/13/2010 4:32:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
So, I'm trying to put these damn things on and I just want to make sure I'm not crazy. They are really hard to put on! I was under the impression I'd be able to freely move it down the rail to position and then just lock it in place with the index clips. I can't even get that sucker on more than a half inch of rail and it looks like it's beginning to gouge the index clip. Is this normal? Do I just have to keep working it down? Should I have used some kind of a lubricant to assist? Should I just hammer it down? Why is this sounding so dirty?


Explain this a little more please...

ETA...pics?
11/13/2010 4:47:13 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So, I'm trying to put these damn things on and I just want to make sure I'm not crazy. They are really hard to put on! I was under the impression I'd be able to freely move it down the rail to position and then just lock it in place with the index clips. I can't even get that sucker on more than a half inch of rail and it looks like it's beginning to gouge the index clip. Is this normal? Do I just have to keep working it down? Should I have used some kind of a lubricant to assist? Should I just hammer it down? Why is this sounding so dirty?


Explain this a little more please...

ETA...pics?


Perhaps shave would be a more appropriate description. I'm talking about the area on the underside of the handstop where the rail makes contact - specifically, the inside of the slots on either side of the handstop where the plastic curls under to grip the rail. Inside both those grooves you can see the effects of trying to work the handstop down the rail and it looks like it is beginning to shave away just a little. Ees not normal?

ETA: pics on the way



11/13/2010 5:29:12 AM EDT
[#10]
Here is another shot-by-shot illustration (or at least an attempt) to show what is happening. In this first shot, you can see how the handstop makes contact with the rail when I begin to slide it on. You can clearly see how the rail is causing the marks on the handstop in the earlier pics.





This next shot shows just how far down the rail I am actually able to move the handstop along using only my hands; hence, the question of should I be using something to help push the handstop along the rail, say, a rubber mallet or something.





I have tried wiggling the handstop to gain more purchase along the rail to no effect.





For all my efforts, my poor rail! Disclaimer: I don't care about marks or scuffs on the rail, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm doing something wrong here.

11/13/2010 8:46:55 AM EDT
[#11]
It's a piece of plastic.  You're not doing anything wrong besides maybe being too gentle.  Pound that fucker on!  
11/13/2010 9:40:33 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Here is another shot-by-shot illustration (or at least an attempt) to show what is happening. In this first shot, you can see how the handstop makes contact with the rail when I begin to slide it on. You can clearly see how the rail is causing the marks on the handstop in the earlier pics.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/FP2000H/040101_0860.jpg



This next shot shows just how far down the rail I am actually able to move the handstop along using only my hands; hence, the question of should I be using something to help push the handstop along the rail, say, a rubber mallet or something.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/FP2000H/040101_0863.jpg



I have tried wiggling the handstop to gain more purchase along the rail to no effect.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/FP2000H/040101_0861.jpg



For all my efforts, my poor rail! Disclaimer: I don't care about marks or scuffs on the rail, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm doing something wrong here.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/FP2000H/040101_0862.jpg


Wow...OK something just doesn't look right there...you've tried both handstops?  Both act the same?  The handstops take nicely to sanding/shaving...you could file them....otherwise I'd give LT a call Monday.  As said before...mine slide freely.
11/13/2010 2:09:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Mine are a bit tight but nothing like a certain vertical grip I use and nothing that I cant move with my finger. They damn sure haven't marred my rails. The vert grip I use does require directed pressure toward the base in order to get it to move, otherwise, it will bind.
I'm with TAMUjeep, give them a call.