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3/18/2010 9:04:11 AM EDT
selling blemished products at a discounted rate?

I know that your mounts and such are top notch, even though I give you shit, but that is more about you than your product. I am sure that some things come back from the annodizer and might not be completely done, or have small blemishes in the finish that wouldnt take away from the function of the product but doesn quit live up to your finial "standards" or what your customers have come to expect from LT.

I was thinking, instead of scrapping the blemed items maybe offer them as "factory seconds" for a reduced rate, with no warranty for finish but still offer warranty on breakage. I personally would be interested in some blemmed items since I normally paint everything with krylon anyhow.  

I dont know if anyone else is interested in it but who knows.  Might be a way of keeping a few more dollars in your pocket that you might not have.
3/18/2010 9:06:30 AM EDT
[#1]


3/18/2010 9:15:23 AM EDT
[#3]
I think the problem would be with their warranty / return policy, which is awesome.
Sell blems at reduced prices. Customer receives blem. Exchanges for a perfect one.

3/18/2010 9:16:27 AM EDT
[#4]
Why would a company well-known for precision and quality, fuck up the claim by offering blems?

Furthermore, given Mark's unconditional guarantee, people could send a blem back for a first-quality item.

Brains. Use them.
3/18/2010 9:18:39 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Why would a company well-known for precision and quality, fuck up the claim by offering blems?

Furthermore, given Mark's unconditional guarantee, people could send a blem back for a first-quality item.

Brains. Use them.


I figured that Marks customer base would have more integrity than that.
3/18/2010 9:23:42 AM EDT
[#6]


I can't stop laughing at that picture
3/18/2010 9:24:38 AM EDT
[#7]
Selling "blemished" or "factory second" products isn't part of our culture.
3/18/2010 9:25:51 AM EDT
[#8]


3/18/2010 9:26:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Selling "blemished" or "factory second" products isn't part of our culture.


Thats fine.  It was just something that I was thinking about since I krylon all my stuff anyhow.

Or how about offering stuff "in the white" for those that are going to ceracoat or duracot it anyhow ?
3/18/2010 9:28:54 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why would a company well-known for precision and quality, fuck up the claim by offering blems?

Furthermore, given Mark's unconditional guarantee, people could send a blem back for a first-quality item.

Brains. Use them.


I figured that Marks customer base would have more integrity than that.


3/18/2010 9:30:17 AM EDT
[#11]


has nothing to do with trolling, it was something that went thru my mind.  

How many stores have "outlet" stores that sell slightly blemmished items, or last years colors so they arent losing that money on stuff.  

Hell I buy all my Carhartt pants at an outlet store cause I cna buy them for 25 bucks a pair and they are "slightly irregular", I havent found out what makes them irregular in all the pairs that I have bought.  But when they last 5 years of daily wear I dont much care.
3/18/2010 10:02:43 AM EDT
[#12]
delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete....
3/18/2010 10:16:25 AM EDT
[#13]
you are the fucking worst... and the first person to make my ignore list...
it seems like your sole purpose is to be a pain in the ass to Magpul and LT...

blemishes and factory seconds aren't what made LT as big as they are today... selling them would cheapen their brand..

on top of it, selling factory seconds/blems would open up the dealer market to every local bullshit shop around... LT has a select list of authorized dealers for a reason... if some yahoo can buy blem CCO mounts for 40% less than a new one, you know damn well those rejected mounts WILL end up in local gunshops and WILL be sold for the new price as a NEW item... LT customer service will be plagued with calls from folks who were duped into buying these seconds...

if people sent chicom knockoff mounts in to take advantage of the warranty, you can guarantee that those who bought factory seconds would be doing the same thing
3/18/2010 10:22:57 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


you are the fucking worst... and the first person to make my ignore list...

it seems like your sole purpose is to be a pain in the ass to Magpul and LT...



blemishes and factory seconds aren't what made LT as big as they are today... selling them would cheapen their brand..



on top of it, selling factory seconds/blems would open up the dealer market to every local bullshit shop around... LT has a select list of authorized dealers for a reason... if some yahoo can buy blem CCO mounts for 40% less than a new one, you know damn well those rejected mounts WILL end up in local gunshops and WILL be sold for the new price as a NEW item... LT customer service will be plagued with calls from folks who were duped into buying these seconds...



if people sent chicom knockoff mounts in to take advantage of the warranty, you can guarantee that those who bought factory seconds would be doing the same thing


Fore thought. This man has it.  




 
3/18/2010 10:23:13 AM EDT
[#15]
selling blemished products at a discounted rate?

Are. You. Fucking. Serious.
3/18/2010 10:39:20 AM EDT
[#16]
I guess no one in this thread has thought about buying a blemished SCAR.

Only reason I made the thread was cause I am a cheap fucker and looking for a way to get quality shit at a reduced rate.

Kinda like the guys who ask for discount codes ...... Im simply saying instead of scrapping something and get NOTHING out of it, offer it cheaper and keep a few bucks and let your product be out there.  

There has to be a way that you can mark the product as being sold as a blem, hell outlet stores will cut a tag in an article of clothing so its marked as saying it came from the outlet store so you cant take it back somewhere else and return it.

LL Bean used to cut the Bean tag off of their backpacks when they went to the Outlets.
3/18/2010 11:34:31 AM EDT
[#17]
Firts off, you are assuming that there even ARE such things.  LT 's processing may be so damn near perfect that there is NEVER a blem or screwup.  WHO KNOWS?

Usually screw ups come from sloppy work by employees that are careless and don't give a shit.  EVERY LT emplyee I have ever been in ciontact with is sincerely energetic at doing their best and making the best.  

You are making an assumption that doesn't have any basis in fact to begin with...

BUT, if they did screw something slightly up, you can bet your ass it won';t exit those doors in LEANDER with the LARUE name on it, noit even to cheap bastards like you!  It's either perfect, or it ain't LaRue.
3/18/2010 11:50:01 AM EDT
[#18]
I think he melts 'em down and makes dillos!!!
3/18/2010 12:05:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Firts off, you are assuming that there even ARE such things.  LT 's processing may be so damn near perfect that there is NEVER a blem or screwup.  WHO KNOWS?

Usually screw ups come from sloppy work by employees that are careless and don't give a shit.  EVERY LT emplyee I have ever been in ciontact with is sincerely energetic at doing their best and making the best.  

You are making an assumption that doesn't have any basis in fact to begin with...

BUT, if they did screw something slightly up, you can bet your ass it won';t exit those doors in LEANDER with the LARUE name on it, noit even to cheap bastards like you!  It's either perfect, or it ain't LaRue.


You are 100% correct, I am assuming that there are blems.  BUT every company has em .... its a fact of manufacturing.

Mistakes ARE made, its up the the QC department to catch them before they get to the customers, so the customers are not upset about a product.

But if the customer KNOWS that they are getting something that may not be 100 percent and selling it at a lower rate I dont see the problem with that.  

Take for example .... LT scope rail for Rem 700 .... As long as its cut properly and the holes are in the proper spots I dont care if the finish on it isnt 100 percent because I am going to mount it then krylon it.  Or even if it was offered in the white and sold for 20 bucks less... those that are going to finish their action however could save a buck or two.
3/18/2010 12:33:31 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
First off, you are assuming that there even ARE such things.  LT 's processing may be so damn near perfect that there is NEVER a blem or screwup.  


+1.
3/18/2010 12:36:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Do kids drink kool-aid mixed with dirt!?  NO.
3/18/2010 1:43:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Do kids drink kool-aid mixed with dirt!?  NO.


I did...I mean..wait...NO!
3/18/2010 2:21:49 PM EDT
[#23]
The finished LaRue product has a protective finish applied over the aluminum (I think its a new fangled thing called Anomodising ). I would guess there could be problems in durability if they offered the product "in the white" and lacking the protective coating. Krylon and Duracoat would seem to be a far second place to the coating they currently come with.

I vote "NO" to blems or in the white sh*t.
3/18/2010 2:35:21 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
The finished LaRue product has a protective finish applied over the aluminum (I think its a new fangled thing called Anomodising ). I would guess there could be problems in durability if they offered the product "in the white" and lacking the protective coating. Krylon and Duracoat would seem to be a far second place to the coating they currently come with.

I vote "NO" to blems or in the white sh*t.


WINNER!

Mark has actually discussed how his aluminum is protected in past threads.  No weak (or potentially weak crap) is escaping his shed.
3/18/2010 2:35:57 PM EDT
[#25]
damm, I THINK I HERD A SNAP, look around guys ,i am sure i herd it,










                                                             
3/18/2010 4:45:27 PM EDT
[#26]
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3/18/2010 4:46:23 PM EDT
[#27]
LaRue's stuff is excellent. It just seems like you're proposing a solution to a nonexistent problem.

It ain't broke. Don't fix it.


ETA: dammit....i thought I had my first page ownage there!
3/18/2010 4:47:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why would a company well-known for precision and quality, fuck up the claim by offering blems?

Furthermore, given Mark's unconditional guarantee, people could send a blem back for a first-quality item.

Brains. Use them.


I figured that Marks customer base would have more integrity than that.


I didn't know you had a list of all their customers.
My apologies.
3/18/2010 5:02:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I guess no one in this thread has thought about buying a blemished SCAR.

Only reason I made the thread was cause I am a cheap fucker and looking for a way to get quality shit at a reduced rate.

Kinda like the guys who ask for discount codes ...... Im simply saying instead of scrapping something and get NOTHING out of it, offer it cheaper and keep a few bucks and let your product be out there.  

There has to be a way that you can mark the product as being sold as a blem, hell outlet stores will cut a tag in an article of clothing so its marked as saying it came from the outlet store so you cant take it back somewhere else and return it.

LL Bean used to cut the Bean tag off of their backpacks when they went to the Outlets.


Go buy some Chinese Airsoft Products if you want cheap shit at a reduced rate!
3/18/2010 5:49:00 PM EDT
[#30]
damn you guys are brutal as all hell over here, it's not that absurd of a question, there are several quality manufacturers out there that offer blemished parts at a discount or for promotional purposes. Dare I say NOVESKE comes to mind?
3/18/2010 6:00:58 PM EDT
[#31]






3/18/2010 6:09:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
damn you guys are brutal as all hell over here, it's not that absurd of a question, there are several quality manufacturers out there that offer blemished parts at a discount or for promotional purposes. Dare I say NOVESKE comes to mind?


This is not Noveske. THIS IS LARUE!
3/18/2010 6:15:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
damn you guys are brutal as all hell over here, it's not that absurd of a question, there are several quality manufacturers out there that offer blemished parts at a discount or for promotional purposes. Dare I say NOVESKE comes to mind?


This is not Noveske. THIS IS LARUE!
http://people.rit.edu/ajl8838/Web%20Dev/images/300.jpg


BRAVO!

PACK LARUE Rallies!
3/18/2010 6:16:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Firts off, you are assuming that there even ARE such things.  LT 's processing may be so damn near perfect that there is NEVER a blem or screwup.  WHO KNOWS?


 So, not only has Mark LaRue discovered the magic money tree, he has also discovered the magic milling machine.  

Usually screw ups come from sloppy work by employees that are careless and don't give a shit.  EVERY LT emplyee I have ever been in ciontact with is sincerely energetic at doing their best and making the best.  

You are making an assumption that doesn't have any basis in fact to begin with...


I'm sorry, I couldn't hear your... there seems to be something in your mouth.  

BUT, if they did screw something slightly up, you can bet your ass it won';t exit those doors in LEANDER with the LARUE name on it, noit even to cheap bastards like you!  It's either perfect, or it ain't LaRue.


Dear Lord...  Given that Noveske (and a handful of other companies do it), it is not that absurd of a question... your answer, however, is the most absurd post I have read all day.  The only reason you are not on my ignore list is that your posts are just so damn funny!

ETA:  Again, this came up in active topics...
3/18/2010 6:27:05 PM EDT
[#35]
vaiheru21 I respectfully suggest you stand down. Mark already stated before that if it's not up to spec it doesn't leave the shop. It's his business and he can set his own sales policy and QC policy. I and a lot of people in this forum believe that his policy of not selling seconds is good practice. Let's keep it at that.
3/18/2010 6:30:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
vaiheru21 I respectfully suggest you stand down.


My issue is not, and has never been, with LaRue Tactical or any of its employees.  

Mark already stated before that if it's not up to spec it doesn't leave the shop.


And that's fine... but there is NO reason for the one-man-wolfpack that is 50CalAl to tear into the OP for asking such a simple and honest question.  

It's his business and he can set his own sales policy and QC policy. I and a lot of people in this forum believe that his policy of not selling seconds is good practice. Let's keep it at that.


Believe as you like - I don't necessarily agree, but it is his company, so, *shrug*.  That said, the one-man-wolf-pack is doing SERIOUS damage to LaRue's business with his rabid defense when there simply has been no attack.
3/18/2010 6:36:56 PM EDT
[#37]
I knew and understood what you were saying. I was trying to avert escalation. But since you still choose to call somebody out, you're making a personal confrontation inevitable. So be it. This is a FREE country.
3/18/2010 6:38:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Alas, a history lesson is in order.



Class, please get to your assigned learning area.



The issue here is that the OP is a KNOWN Troll that purports faggotry at every opportunity in this forum.



ergo, the reason for the dog pile on the OP.



Additionally, I find a obligatory WTF?
to be in order
3/18/2010 6:39:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I knew and understood what you were saying. I was trying to avert escalation. But since you still choose to call somebody out, you're making a personal confrontation inevitable. So be it. This is a FREE country.


After personally attacking the OP over the course of two pages, now is not really the time to cry foul when someone of sound temperment takes issue with the rabid fanboyism that is making a spectacle out of the very company it purports to support.
3/18/2010 6:40:52 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
vaiheru21 I respectfully suggest you stand down.


My issue is not, and has never been, with LaRue Tactical or any of its employees.  

Mark already stated before that if it's not up to spec it doesn't leave the shop.


And that's fine... but there is NO reason for the one-man-wolfpack that is 50CalAl to tear into the OP for asking such a simple and honest question.  

It's his business and he can set his own sales policy and QC policy. I and a lot of people in this forum believe that his policy of not selling seconds is good practice. Let's keep it at that.


Believe as you like - I don't necessarily agree, but it is his company, so, *shrug*.  That said, the one-man-wolf-pack is doing SERIOUS damage to LaRue's business with his rabid defense when there simply has been no attack.


Respectfully, its not what you think.

The OP has a history of causing static with LaRue.
3/18/2010 6:41:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Read post above yours, valheru21.
3/18/2010 6:41:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Alas, a history lesson is in order.

Class, please get to your assigned learning area.

The issue here is that the OP is a KNOWN Troll that purports faggotry at every opportunity in this forum.

ergo, the reason for the dog pile on the OP.

Additionally, I find a obligatory WTF? to be in order


Well, that might be.  I try to stay out of here because people like 50CalAl try to label me as such, as well, simply for asking legitimate questions (that, they, of course, do not consider legitimate).

So, I'll leave y'all to it.  If the OP is really a troll, I apologize for sticking my nose into this.  
3/18/2010 6:45:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Yep, 50CalAl anit no walk in the park, that's to be sure
.  You would rather piss of Vietnam Tom, than 50CalAl.
3/18/2010 6:45:06 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Alas, a history lesson is in order.

Class, please get to your assigned learning area.

The issue here is that the OP is a KNOWN Troll that purports faggotry at every opportunity in this forum.

ergo, the reason for the dog pile on the OP.

Additionally, I find a obligatory WTF? to be in order


Well, that might be.  I try to stay out of here because people like 50CalAl try to label me as such, as well, simply for asking legitimate questions (that, they, of course, do not consider legitimate).

So, I'll leave y'all to it.  If the OP is really a troll, I apologize for sticking my nose into this.  


Thank you and goodnight.
3/18/2010 7:00:20 PM EDT
[#45]
Hey VAl!

If you want a date with me, good lord son, just ask!  You don't have to keep following me around in the forums talking all sexy about putting body parts in mouths and such

By the way, in case you have not been keeping up, I am NOT the only person that respectfully , and with tongue-in-cheek, responded to the OP- who is a bona fide troll.  I was sort of kdding when I said that that LT made no mistakes, but I threw in the "WHO KNOWS"  quote just to clarify.

Additionally, since you have not been keeping up, I am not a lone wolf, rabid attacker- we have a 6 page thread full of members of the rabid PACK LARUE.  Isn't that great??? Hope you've had your shots!

SInce you haven't caught on, I am not hurting LT's business.  I continue to choose to defend them against slugs and trolls.  They are not just  a company that I am a fanboy of; they are truly my personal friends, and I fight for my friends. And look at you, defending known trolls.... and just wanting to argue and attck for the fun of it.  I least I have a MISSION

Larue has stated, ad nauseum, (legal term there flyboy) that he does not and will not send out flawed equipment- it leaves in perfect spec unless a major mistake or error is made- good business practices, and I don't see why or how you think that is funny.  I ,  along with every other poster, save 1, repeated that fact to the trolling OP.

Now go to sleep and quit pickin' on me.  I am a very sensitive canine, ya know.  You might hurt my feelings!


Alpha Al signing out of this particular silliness..
3/18/2010 7:11:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
vaiheru21 I respectfully suggest you stand down.


My issue is not, and has never been, with LaRue Tactical or any of its employees.  

Mark already stated before that if it's not up to spec it doesn't leave the shop.


And that's fine... but there is NO reason for the one-man-wolfpack that is 50CalAl to tear into the OP for asking such a simple and honest question.  

It's his business and he can set his own sales policy and QC policy. I and a lot of people in this forum believe that his policy of not selling seconds is good practice. Let's keep it at that.


Believe as you like - I don't necessarily agree, but it is his company, so, *shrug*.  That said, the one-man-wolf-pack is doing SERIOUS damage to LaRue's business with his rabid defense when there simply has been no attack.


Woe there cowgirl!!!!    

For one I dont think for a split second that Al is a "lone wolf pack"  he is merely a wolf among sheep.....  With that said, I would be willing to bet that the rest of the flock went on and you got stranded by yourself and decided to enter into the world of LaRue and you now realize that running your pie hole has gotten you no where.  I would suggest that you go finger your A.R.M.S. mounts, and I would bet that the only body parts floating around may be your mouth on "DICK" Swan.  Enjoy your time here in the LaRue section, and remember that Team LaRue runs in a pack.
3/18/2010 8:13:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Firts off, you are assuming that there even ARE such things.  LT 's processing may be so damn near perfect that there is NEVER a blem or screwup.  WHO KNOWS?


 So, not only has Mark LaRue discovered the magic money tree, he has also discovered the magic milling machine.  

Usually screw ups come from sloppy work by employees that are careless and don't give a shit.  EVERY LT emplyee I have ever been in ciontact with is sincerely energetic at doing their best and making the best.  

You are making an assumption that doesn't have any basis in fact to begin with...


I'm sorry, I couldn't hear your... there seems to be something in your mouth.  

BUT, if they did screw something slightly up, you can bet your ass it won';t exit those doors in LEANDER with the LARUE name on it, noit even to cheap bastards like you!  It's either perfect, or it ain't LaRue.


Dear Lord...  Given that Noveske (and a handful of other companies do it), it is not that absurd of a question... your answer, however, is the most absurd post I have read all day.  The only reason you are not on my ignore list is that your posts are just so damn funny!

ETA:  Again, this came up in active topics...




You must have been assigned to Shit Burnin' detail before!!!
3/18/2010 9:41:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
vaiheru21 I respectfully suggest you stand down.


My issue is not, and has never been, with LaRue Tactical or any of its employees.  

Mark already stated before that if it's not up to spec it doesn't leave the shop.


And that's fine... but there is NO reason for the one-man-wolfpack that is 50CalAl to tear into the OP for asking such a simple and honest question.  

It's his business and he can set his own sales policy and QC policy. I and a lot of people in this forum believe that his policy of not selling seconds is good practice. Let's keep it at that.


Believe as you like - I don't necessarily agree, but it is his company, so, *shrug*.  That said, the one-man-wolf-pack is doing SERIOUS damage to LaRue's business with his rabid defense when there simply has been no attack.


Respectfully, its not what you think.

The OP has a history of causing static with LaRue.


Fuck respectfully, Val is almost as much of a troll as the OP when it comes to things related to LT...."Oh BTW, I only came by this thread via active topics, and just couldn't resist stirring shit up", or something to that effect; is that the gist of it Val?
3/18/2010 10:02:03 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
 So, not only has Mark LaRue discovered the magic money tree, he has also discovered the magic milling machine.  




Wait, it ISN'T???...
3/18/2010 10:21:53 PM EDT
[#50]
I would happily buy a marked 'BooBoo by Larue' item, that clearly indicates on it that yes, while it originated from that magical place in Leander, that is has envraged on it that it's not grade A stuff and was sold as-is.  

This isn't as bad an idea as chalked up to be, however, since Clan LaRue has been able to maintain their business model on their terms, I can't really fault them.
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