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1/8/2015 1:39:34 PM EDT
Do you TNVC guys happen to know pricing on the new civilian DBAL-A3s? They look like just the ticket; I especially appreciate the green vis laser, co-aligned vis and IR lasers, and adjustable IR illum.

Steiner eOptics Launches Civilian Version of Famed DBAL-A3

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1/8/2015 1:44:01 PM EDT
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And I just bought my DBAL I2 in November?  

Anyone want a good deal on the I2?  I'm either going A3 (as soon as TNVC gets it!) or ATPIAL-C!
1/8/2015 2:20:14 PM EDT
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Do you TNVC guys happen to know pricing on the new civilian DBAL-A3s? They look like just the ticket; I especially appreciate the green vis laser, co-aligned vis and IR lasers, and adjustable IR illum.



Steiner eOptics Launches Civilian Version of Famed DBAL-A3



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No pricing yet. Should be announcing at SHOT.



 
1/8/2015 4:00:18 PM EDT
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Do you TNVC guys happen to know pricing on the new civilian DBAL-A3s? They look like just the ticket; I especially appreciate the green vis laser, co-aligned vis and IR lasers, and adjustable IR illum.

Steiner eOptics Launches Civilian Version of Famed DBAL-A3

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No pricing yet. Should be announcing at SHOT.
 


We'll have the new A3 in our booth as well. #6052 for folks who are attending.

Vic
1/8/2015 4:52:21 PM EDT
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With the introduction of the 3-laser DBAL-A3 is also the 2-laser DBAL-I2 that offers a choice of either an IR pointer with a visual pointer or an IR pointer with an IR illuminator.
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New I2s' as well?
1/9/2015 5:43:57 PM EDT
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With the introduction of the 3-laser DBAL-A3 is also the 2-laser DBAL-I2 that offers a choice of either an IR pointer with a visual pointer or an IR pointer with an IR illuminator.


New I2s' as well?


Yeppers with IR only. Pointer and Lum.

Vic
1/10/2015 1:54:24 AM EDT
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Pre order DBAL-A3?

I'd be in..
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1/10/2015 6:40:57 PM EDT
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Here is the full up specs sheets for both the new A3 and I2. They can now be preordered here on our web site.

http://tnvc.com/shop/steiner-dbal-i%C2%B2-class-1-3r-ir-single-spectrum-laser/
http://tnvc.com/shop/steiner-dbal-a3-class13r-ir-laser/







Vic
1/11/2015 8:48:16 AM EDT
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So the illuminator's can be focused on these and still remain civilian legal?
1/16/2015 8:37:46 PM EDT
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Yes. The problem isn't neccessarily legality but is actually functionality. The Wilcox Raptor ES Lite uses an adjustable illum that is a laser BUT per a certain guy that is here on ARF and a few other forums that has one told me that it quite frankly sucked on that optic. So I'm really curious to see what Steiner/LDI has done. I'm personally still optimistic because these guys have been putting out Class 1 IR lasers for quite some time now and despite some hate the brand gets sometimes because of a few failures is gtg. I have an ITAL and it works great. Granted I have babied it but it is going 2 years strong. Oh...just don't leave your batteries in Steiner/LDI laser and expect it to actually turn on down the road. They do drain the batteries but such is life.
1/17/2015 3:14:45 AM EDT
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Yes. The problem isn't neccessarily legality but is actually functionality. The Wilcox Raptor ES Lite uses an adjustable illum that is a laser BUT per a certain guy that is here on ARF and a few other forums that has one told me that it quite frankly sucked on that optic. So I'm really curious to see what Steiner/LDI has done. I'm personally still optimistic because these guys have been putting out Class 1 IR lasers for quite some time now and despite some hate the brand gets sometimes because of a few failures is gtg. I have an ITAL and it works great. Granted I have babied it but it is going 2 years strong. Oh...just don't leave your batteries in Steiner/LDI laser and expect it to actually turn on down the road. They do drain the batteries but such is life.
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So the illuminator's can be focused on these and still remain civilian legal?


Yes. The problem isn't neccessarily legality but is actually functionality. The Wilcox Raptor ES Lite uses an adjustable illum that is a laser BUT per a certain guy that is here on ARF and a few other forums that has one told me that it quite frankly sucked on that optic. So I'm really curious to see what Steiner/LDI has done. I'm personally still optimistic because these guys have been putting out Class 1 IR lasers for quite some time now and despite some hate the brand gets sometimes because of a few failures is gtg. I have an ITAL and it works great. Granted I have babied it but it is going 2 years strong. Oh...just don't leave your batteries in Steiner/LDI laser and expect it to actually turn on down the road. They do drain the batteries but such is life.



I've been comparing the IR illuminator divergence, DBAL-A3: ~95-195 mrad, ATPIAL-C: 105 mrad, AN/PEQ-15: 1-105 mrad. So the DBAL-A3 has a slightly smaller focus than the ATPIAL-C. (While the ATPIAL-C is a badass laser unit, not super impressed with the illuminator)
I'd like to see a comparison between the ATPIAL-C and the DBAL-A3.
2/28/2015 10:04:58 AM EDT
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Any updates? Any pics?
3/8/2015 2:29:44 PM EDT
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How would the DBAL-D2 compare to these?
3/8/2015 3:03:38 PM EDT
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The illuminator on the D2 would be very hard to beat with a restricted laser illuminator.
The IR and visible lasers would be the same though.

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3/9/2015 9:46:20 AM EDT
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3/9/2015 9:47:17 AM EDT
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The D2 is bigger, heavier, and has a larger emitter area, giving the D2 a visible red glow if looking into the emitter directly.