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I was a Walmart the other day and they didn't have pearl gray...they DID have "graphite" and "frost gray" though... Anyone tried these yet?
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I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the RIT Dye for synthetics. It seems like it would be a perfect fit for polymer magazines.
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Graphite is more black than pearl gray.
We didn't see any difference between the for synthetics or not with PMAGS... The difference might not matter for color and soak time, but could be more durable? |
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Vintage Ain't Retro.
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Hmmm. I'm looking for a gray that is sorta between HK UMP gray and Magpul Stealth gray. Slight blue tint maybe?
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L to R: magpul sand, dyed pmag, Bulgarian black, Bakelite. I was trying for a plum color, I think more red early on would have helped. *** 3oz purple, 2oz wine for 20 min, rotate every 2 minutes. I did it in a foil pan that could fit a couple AK mags, water was boiling just off the stove. The mags were really purple so did another 20 min with just 3.5oz wine. |
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Bought a few MCT mags at the LGS. I like the color. Any one tried to dye FDE or Sand furniture to MCT? I have a set of the Sand Slim Line furniture, was thinking of dying it something else. But a FDE earth set can be easily replaced it goofed up.
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
I was a Walmart the other day and they didn't have pearl gray...they DID have "graphite" and "frost gray" though... Anyone tried these yet? View Quote |
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I did this very unscientifically, found a stainless pot they would fit in and filled it enough to cover the mags standing on their sides. Added the amount of dye I though would work. About a third of a bottle of aquamarine, didn't seem to penetrate well and some sand color could be seen through the blue on the baseplate and dust cover I used as test subjects even after 15min in the water on the stove at a constant temp. Added a splash of royal blue and liked the way the next test pieces came out so dunked all the mags, let them sit about 20min turning them periodically. I may not have used enough dye I don't know.
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Originally Posted By Furluge:
You are actually in the wrong section of the store. I had the same problem. Rit synthetic dyes, which is the line those color names are from, are in the arts and crafts section while the rit all purpose dye in these recopies is by the laundry detergent. View Quote |
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Whoa there... That mag on the first page that was hit with rit dye remover, was that a factory black pmag to start?
Also, I've tried getting plum from a black pmag in wine rit dye, no dice. It looks plum in a lot of artificial light, but back to black in sunlight. If anyone ever responds to this... Please tag me. |
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
Whoa there... That mag on the first page that was hit with rit dye remover, was that a factory black pmag to start? Also, I've tried getting plum from a black pmag in wine rit dye, no dice. It looks plum in a lot of artificial light, but back to black in sunlight. If anyone ever responds to this... Please tag me. View Quote That was a very dark green dyed sand PMAG. We've never tried taking the remover to a black one. I'm getting an itch to try making Kalashnikov plum... and looking hard at the 10-packs with the metal reinforcements. |
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Thank you.
I can tell you the black pmag wasn't having it. I'm not sure the dye remover will have any significant effect. |
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Whups, replying about the wrong "they". Edit: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32061807220_ee3b9286ab_b.jpg I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder. The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes. I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
I think I sorted out FDE ---> Russian Plum. Note: Russian Plum, not current Bulgy repro plum. Each of these pics has 3 formulas/recipes show. Call it "Plum No.2" in the middle that looks best, I think. I'm going to try a pmag soon and see how that goes. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/921/KxMAxQ.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/921/6gOr1o.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/922/E0Gbk7.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Hype309:
Does the amount of water have anything to do with it or perhaps procedure? I tried this with my dust caos and they came out greenish View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hype309:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Whups, replying about the wrong "they". Edit: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32061807220_ee3b9286ab_b.jpg I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder. The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes. I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it. The dye instructions don't say it, but SHAKE THE SNOT OUT OF IT! I had a near misadventure with a foliage green attempt because my dye had settled. |
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I have a friend that bought an Arsenal SLR107UR in Plum and was bummed with the lack of Plum 7.62 mags so I decided to try dying Sand Magpul AK mags.
I purchased a few and cut a couple up for testing and found a nice formula that worked very well to match the Arsenal furniture. 8 cups of water 6 teaspoons dark brown - Rit liquid dye 3 teaspoons wine - Rit liquid dye water temp around 180 for about 30mins - During that time I pulled the mag out a couple of times rinsed it off and examined it in the sunlight with a Plum arsenal stock. I need to get a few more sand mags and do some for myself. |
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My wife drug me along on some errands today and one of her stops was Michaels craft store. While wondering around I found an isle end with bottles of RIT dye, and I spotted a couple of colors I had not seen before, neon green and neon yellow. Figured I had better get one of each and test it on some mags. It seemed like it took more dye and longer times to get results than other colors do. They almost look like toys in person.
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Wow! Your TD recipe is perfect. It looks the same as the Magpul stuff in all lighting conditions.
Great job! Thanks for sharing. |
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Have you tried making ODG with magpul FDE parts? I've tried and it's not the greatest match with both FDE and sand parts. I needs that recipe!
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Have you tried making ODG with magpul FDE parts? I've tried and it's not the greatest match with both FDE and sand parts. I needs that recipe! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81: I am getting very close, but it will require some additional experimentation with other mixes. Taupe liquid RIT may do the trick with just a drop or two of one of the greens and/or dark brown. The pics of the mags above started as sand and were dyed with just liquid dark brown, but still come out just a little too green. This is the closest I've gotten so far. They've been dyed three times over now, but luckily pmags can be bleached relatively easily. View Quote |
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I did an FDE SGA stock today, had a near perfect mix with a test piece of broken Pmag, about 20 seconds in a mixture of dark brown, dark green, apple green, and charcoal gray. A drop or two of red and orange as well. When I dunked the stock half in, there wasn't enough water so I added more, which screwed up my timing and ended up more of a jungle green. I found after a while, the plastic won't take any more dye. At least they wouldn't change any darker after about 5 min.
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Originally Posted By DekNgo: When you say "bleached" are you saying you're able to completely remove the dye? Or is there still some tinting left? Are you using the Rit Color Remover for "bleaching" or something else? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
I did an FDE SGA stock today, had a near perfect mix with a test piece of broken Pmag, about 20 seconds in a mixture of dark brown, dark green, apple green, and charcoal gray. A drop or two of red and orange as well. When I dunked the stock half in, there wasn't enough water so I added more, which screwed up my timing and ended up more of a jungle green. I found after a while, the plastic won't take any more dye. At least they wouldn't change any darker after about 5 min. View Quote |
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I also thought since the FDE already has brown in it, not much brown would be needed. But after looking at the results, as you say, it was too green and needed more brown, or so I thought.
I tried just straight brown to start with a piece of FDE stock, just to see if it turned it green. Looked like the Patriot Brown color. Definitely wasn't green at all. I got more trials out of a cut up Pmag piece I found on the range (like the mag blew apart!) by hitting it with the belt sander to remove the dyed plastic, revealing fresh FDE. Just a thought to get more out of test pieces if you use them. |
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Originally Posted By onesureshot:
My wife drug me along on some errands today and one of her stops was Michaels craft store. While wondering around I found an isle end with bottles of RIT dye, and I spotted a couple of colors I had not seen before, neon green and neon yellow. Figured I had better get one of each and test it on some mags. It seemed like it took more dye and longer times to get results than other colors do. They almost look like toys in person. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/18550/E575AF01-B37B-4F39-8BD2-7332B0EA0192-648999.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mdw:
https://i.imgur.com/MGr3uzml.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bsZQHIWl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lPJZwbAl.jpg View Quote |
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Vintage Ain't Retro.
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Forgive me if this is a dumb question. I have the gray B5 grip and stock. I want to dye it black, I would only need the black dye right? It won't do anything funky like make it dark blue or anything?
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1959/45755017031_e2af01b127_b.jpg Breadpan of boiling water. 1 Tablespoon Pearl Gray 1 teaspoon Camel 1/2 teaspoon Harvest 1/2 teaspoon Taupe 8 minute soak flipping every couple of minutes. It's as near as no nevermind to medium coyote tan as to make no difference. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ez510:
Forgive me if this is a dumb question. I have the gray B5 grip and stock. I want to dye it black, I would only need the black dye right? It won't do anything funky like make it dark blue or anything? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
Looks like a great match. Well done. Do you have a side by side pic for comparison? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1959/45755017031_e2af01b127_b.jpg Breadpan of boiling water. 1 Tablespoon Pearl Gray 1 teaspoon Camel 1/2 teaspoon Harvest 1/2 teaspoon Taupe 8 minute soak flipping every couple of minutes. It's as near as no nevermind to medium coyote tan as to make no difference. L->R My creation. Medium Coyote Tan. Flat Dark Earth. |
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
My OD Green SGA stock on a lower I made with a steel kit from The Flat Spot. My take on the SCR rifle. https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/43684208_2087376847992785_6257759507661717504_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&oh=3fb6b63f8c5cc464e607fa696a16a8d4&oe=5C5F401F View Quote Thanks! |
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No build thread, on the facebook 300blk discussion group I spelled most of it out. Maybe also in the magpul pic thread sticky as well. Tons of work in that thing.
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Does anyone have a comparison between the fabric version and the synthetic versions of RIT?
From the RIT website. "How do I know which to use? Which dye to use? If you are dyeing natural fabrics (such as cotton, linen, wool, silk and ramie), rayon or nylon, select Rit All-Purpose Dye. If the fabric you are dyeing contains more than 35% synthetic material (such as polyester, acrylic or acetate), select Rit DyeMore." They also have this amazing panatone color chart. Just click the color and it will give you the mix formula. Rit formula chart |
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Originally Posted By M4PDX:
Does anyone have a comparison between the fabric version and the synthetic versions of RIT? From the RIT website. "How do I know which to use? Which dye to use? If you are dyeing natural fabrics (such as cotton, linen, wool, silk and ramie), rayon or nylon, select Rit All-Purpose Dye. If the fabric you are dyeing contains more than 35% synthetic material (such as polyester, acrylic or acetate), select Rit DyeMore." They also have this amazing panatone color chart. Just click the color and it will give you the mix formula. Rit formula chart View Quote |
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Vintage Ain't Retro.
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Anyone successful with a fire engine red?
My MCT's are pretty good. Any luck with doing stocks handguards and grips? |
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TAG becasue I have some mags and baseplates on the way
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UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
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Do they even make and or sell sand magazines anymore?
Does this work on black magazines? |
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UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
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Originally Posted By Mustang-Man:
I did this very unscientifically, found a stainless pot they would fit in and filled it enough to cover the mags standing on their sides. Added the amount of dye I though would work. About a third of a bottle of aquamarine, didn't seem to penetrate well and some sand color could be seen through the blue on the baseplate and dust cover I used as test subjects even after 15min in the water on the stove at a constant temp. Added a splash of royal blue and liked the way the next test pieces came out so dunked all the mags, let them sit about 20min turning them periodically. I may not have used enough dye I don't know. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/442004/IMG_20180408_194627713-509449.JPG View Quote |
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UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
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A good rant about a fella dyeing his P Mags (for those that it concerns... WARNING... some harsh language inside):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk0ZE2GoBM |
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Originally Posted By Fatboy148:
A good rant about a fella dyeing his P Mags (for those that it concerns... WARNING... some harsh language inside): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk0ZE2GoBM View Quote |
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