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3/25/2018 11:19:15 AM EDT
[#1]
I was a Walmart the other day and they didn't have pearl gray...they DID have "graphite" and "frost gray" though... Anyone tried these yet?
The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing
3/25/2018 2:29:02 PM EDT
[#2]
I'm curious to know if anyone has tried the RIT Dye for synthetics. It seems like it would be a perfect fit for polymer magazines.
3/25/2018 5:08:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Graphite is more black than pearl gray.

We didn't see any difference between the for synthetics or not with PMAGS...

The difference might not matter for color and soak time, but could be more durable?
Vintage Ain't Retro.
3/26/2018 2:10:02 AM EDT
[#4]
Hmmm. I'm looking for a gray that is sorta between HK UMP gray and Magpul Stealth gray. Slight blue tint maybe?
The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing
3/29/2018 5:03:36 PM EDT
[#5]
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L to R: magpul sand, dyed pmag, Bulgarian black, Bakelite.

I was trying for a plum color, I think more red early on would have helped.

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3oz purple, 2oz wine for 20 min, rotate every 2 minutes.  I did it in a foil pan that could fit a couple AK mags, water was boiling just off the stove.  The mags were really purple so did another 20 min with just 3.5oz wine.
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4/5/2018 7:28:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 50cal][Edited] [#6]
Bought a few MCT mags at the LGS. I like the color. Any one tried to dye FDE or Sand furniture to MCT? I have a set of the Sand Slim Line furniture, was thinking of dying it something else. But a FDE earth set can be easily replaced it goofed up.
I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
4/7/2018 8:24:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Furluge][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By jekbrown:
I was a Walmart the other day and they didn't have pearl gray...they DID have "graphite" and "frost gray" though... Anyone tried these yet?
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You are actually in the wrong section of the store. I had the same problem. Rit synthetic dyes, which is the line those color names are from, are in the arts and crafts section while the rit all purpose dye in these recopies is by the laundry detergent.
4/9/2018 12:32:53 AM EDT
[#8]
I did this very unscientifically, found a stainless pot they would fit in and filled it enough to cover the mags standing on their sides. Added the amount of dye I though would work. About a third of a bottle of aquamarine, didn't seem to penetrate well and some sand color could be seen through the blue on the baseplate and dust cover I used as test subjects even after 15min in the water on the stove at a constant temp. Added a splash of royal blue and liked the way the next test pieces came out so dunked all the mags, let them sit about 20min turning them periodically. I may not have used enough dye I don't know.

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4/9/2018 2:00:57 AM EDT
[#9]
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Originally Posted By Furluge:
You are actually in the wrong section of the store. I had the same problem. Rit synthetic dyes, which is the line those color names are from, are in the arts and crafts section while the rit all purpose dye in these recopies is by the laundry detergent.
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Whoa, thanks for posting this helpful info! Much appreciated. Glad I didn't F up any of my sand stuff by using the wrong dye!
The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing
5/31/2018 12:12:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CKxx][Edited] [#10]
Whoa there... That mag on the first page that was hit with rit dye remover, was that a factory black pmag to start?

Also, I've tried getting plum from a black pmag in wine rit dye, no dice.  It looks plum in a lot of artificial light, but back to black in sunlight.

If anyone ever responds to this... Please tag me.
5/31/2018 5:59:42 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
Whoa there... That mag on the first page that was hit with rit dye remover, was that a factory black pmag to start?

Also, I've tried getting plum from a black pmag in wine rit dye, no dice.  It looks plum in a lot of artificial light, but back to black in sunlight.

If anyone ever responds to this... Please tag me.
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@CKxx

That was a very dark green dyed sand PMAG.  We've never tried taking the remover to a black one.

I'm getting an itch to try making Kalashnikov plum... and looking hard at the 10-packs with the metal reinforcements.
Vintage Ain't Retro.
5/31/2018 6:13:45 PM EDT
[#12]
Thank you.

I can tell you the black pmag wasn't having it.  I'm not sure the dye remover will have any significant effect.
6/3/2018 10:31:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CKxx][Edited] [#13]
I think I sorted out FDE ---> Russian Plum.  Note: Russian Plum, not current Bulgy repro plum.

Each of these pics has 3 formulas/recipes show.  Call it "Plum No.2" in the middle that looks best, I think.  I'm going to try a pmag soon and see how that goes.



6/11/2018 12:38:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Went to work on some mags with a dew different dyes. Fyi Red overtook the pearl grey and graphite colors. The greys went on a little light i think anyways.
6/11/2018 11:12:53 PM EDT
[#15]

"you know, some people get hit with an ugly stick, but there must be an infinite supply of dipshit lashings out there"- Taffie C.
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6/14/2018 11:58:02 PM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Whups, replying about the wrong "they".

Edit:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32061807220_ee3b9286ab_b.jpg

I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder.  The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes.

I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it.
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Does the amount of water have anything to do with it or perhaps procedure? I tried this with my dust caos and they came out greenish
6/15/2018 8:04:19 AM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By CKxx:
I think I sorted out FDE ---> Russian Plum.  Note: Russian Plum, not current Bulgy repro plum.

Each of these pics has 3 formulas/recipes show.  Call it "Plum No.2" in the middle that looks best, I think.  I'm going to try a pmag soon and see how that goes.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/921/KxMAxQ.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/921/6gOr1o.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1600x1200q90/922/E0Gbk7.jpg
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The results are nice, but what was your recipe?
Vintage Ain't Retro.
6/15/2018 8:06:58 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By Hype309:
Does the amount of water have anything to do with it or perhaps procedure? I tried this with my dust caos and they came out greenish
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Originally Posted By Hype309:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
Whups, replying about the wrong "they".

Edit:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/32061807220_ee3b9286ab_b.jpg

I confirmed that doubling the dye means you halve the soak time with the 20-rounder.  The dust cap was 1-1/2 tsp Pearl Gray and 1/2 tsp Taupe for 8 minutes, the magazine is 1 tbsp Pearl Gray and 1 tsp Taupe for 4 minutes.

I don't have anything Stealth Gray to compare it with, but the picture comes out on my computer the same as my eyes see it.
Does the amount of water have anything to do with it or perhaps procedure? I tried this with my dust caos and they came out greenish
The amount of water, so far, hasn't affected the final color for us.  It does affect how long you need to soak.  More dye, less soak time to get the color.

The dye instructions don't say it, but SHAKE THE SNOT OUT OF IT!  I had a near misadventure with a foliage green attempt because my dye had settled.
Vintage Ain't Retro.
6/23/2018 2:57:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Krink][Edited] [#19]
I have a friend that bought an Arsenal SLR107UR in Plum and was bummed with the lack of Plum 7.62 mags so I decided to try dying Sand Magpul AK mags.
I purchased a few and cut a couple up for testing and found a nice formula that worked very well to match the Arsenal furniture.

8 cups of water
6 teaspoons dark brown - Rit liquid dye
3 teaspoons wine - Rit liquid dye
water temp around 180 for about 30mins - During that time I pulled the mag out a couple of times rinsed it off and examined it in the sunlight with a Plum arsenal stock.

I need to get a few more sand mags and do some for myself.
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8/23/2018 7:58:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: onesureshot][Edited] [#20]
My wife drug me along on some errands today and one of her stops was Michaels craft store. While wondering around I found an isle end with bottles of RIT dye, and I spotted a couple of colors I had not seen before, neon green and neon yellow. Figured I had better get one of each and test it on some mags. It seemed like it took more dye and longer times to get results than other colors do. They almost look like toys in person.

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9/12/2018 8:45:19 PM EDT
[#21]
I have finally mastered Magpul OD green, but there is a catch... The base piece/color was a Tango Down stubby foregrip in their version of Foliage Green. Recipe was 50oz of water at a near boil with only 2 tablespoons of Dark Brown liquid RIT dye. Soak time is exactly 30 seconds, as TD polymer parts absorb color very quickly. This recipe works on any TD parts in Foliage, which could help somebody out. I am very close to Magpul OD with a Sand PMAG, as well, but still working on perfecting things.

Here are some before and after shots.















9/13/2018 8:14:33 AM EDT
[#22]
Wow!  Your TD recipe is perfect.  It looks the same as the Magpul stuff in all lighting conditions.

Great job!  Thanks for sharing.
9/14/2018 11:25:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Have you tried making ODG with magpul FDE parts? I've tried and it's not the greatest match with both FDE and sand parts. I needs that recipe!
10/8/2018 9:48:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mhbaker81][Edited] [#24]
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
Have you tried making ODG with magpul FDE parts? I've tried and it's not the greatest match with both FDE and sand parts. I needs that recipe!
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I am getting very close, but it will require some additional experimentation with other mixes. Taupe liquid RIT may do the trick with just a drop or two of one of the greens and/or dark brown. The pics of the mags above started as sand and were dyed with just liquid dark brown, but still come out just a little too green. This is the closest I've gotten so far. They've been dyed three times over now, but luckily pmags can be bleached relatively easily.
10/8/2018 7:27:11 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81:

I am getting very close, but it will require some additional experimentation with other mixes. Taupe liquid RIT may do the trick with just a drop or two of one of the greens and/or dark brown. The pics of the mags above started as sand and were dyed with just liquid dark brown, but still come out just a little too green. This is the closest I've gotten so far. They've been dyed three times over now, but luckily pmags can be bleached relatively easily.
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When you say "bleached" are you saying you're able to completely remove the dye?  Or is there still some tinting left?  Are you using the Rit Color Remover for "bleaching" or something else?
10/9/2018 9:51:38 PM EDT
[#26]
I did an FDE SGA stock today, had a near perfect mix with a test piece of broken Pmag, about 20 seconds in a mixture of dark brown, dark green, apple green, and charcoal gray. A drop or two of red and orange as well. When I dunked the stock half in, there wasn't enough water so I added more, which screwed up my timing and ended up more of a jungle green. I found after a while, the plastic won't take any more dye. At least they wouldn't change any darker after about 5 min.
10/9/2018 10:06:03 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By DekNgo:

When you say "bleached" are you saying you're able to completely remove the dye?  Or is there still some tinting left?  Are you using the Rit Color Remover for "bleaching" or something else?
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I've used both methods. The RIT remover doesn't work that great. You need to leave the mags in it for about an hour and a half and you still have alot of residual color left over. It's really more of a "fader", as another member posted. I prefer to use an actual bleach mixture. One part bleach and two parts water. After about 10 to 20 minutes, mags are almost back to their original color, with just a slight tint left over. The dark OD green mags in my post above went back to their sand base with an ever so slight foliage/sky blue tint. Not to worried about the structural integrity of the mags with bleach, as these things are pretty damned resiliant.
10/9/2018 10:14:12 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
I did an FDE SGA stock today, had a near perfect mix with a test piece of broken Pmag, about 20 seconds in a mixture of dark brown, dark green, apple green, and charcoal gray. A drop or two of red and orange as well. When I dunked the stock half in, there wasn't enough water so I added more, which screwed up my timing and ended up more of a jungle green. I found after a while, the plastic won't take any more dye. At least they wouldn't change any darker after about 5 min.
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I've experimented with similar mixes, and am fairly confident that the dark brown negates all other colors in the mix. The brown, which is really more of a dark green on FDE or Sand magpul furniture, is overpowering everything else, thus giving a result that is slightly too green. I am taking this back to the drawing board, as I believe we have to build upon a lighter base. I think that a taupe primary, perhaps with a few drops of red, grey, and dark green might get us there. Need to find the formula by working our way up, not overpowering from the start.
10/10/2018 12:11:54 PM EDT
[#29]
I also thought since the FDE already has brown in it, not much brown would be needed. But after looking at the results, as you say, it was too green and needed more brown, or so I thought.

I tried just straight brown to start with a piece of FDE stock, just to see if it turned it green. Looked like the Patriot Brown color. Definitely wasn't green at all. I got more trials out of a cut up Pmag piece I found on the range (like the mag blew apart!) by hitting it with the belt sander to remove the dyed plastic, revealing fresh FDE. Just a thought to get more out of test pieces if you use them.
10/10/2018 8:30:52 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By onesureshot:
My wife drug me along on some errands today and one of her stops was Michaels craft store. While wondering around I found an isle end with bottles of RIT dye, and I spotted a couple of colors I had not seen before, neon green and neon yellow. Figured I had better get one of each and test it on some mags. It seemed like it took more dye and longer times to get results than other colors do. They almost look like toys in person.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/18550/E575AF01-B37B-4F39-8BD2-7332B0EA0192-648999.JPG
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How much dye/time did you end with for the green?
10/10/2018 9:42:37 PM EDT
[#31]
My OD Green SGA stock on a lower I made with a steel kit from The Flat Spot. My take on the SCR rifle.



10/23/2018 11:42:15 PM EDT
[#32]




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10/25/2018 1:27:53 PM EDT
[#33]
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How did you that? Looks great.
I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
11/6/2018 5:01:24 PM EDT
[#34]


Breadpan of boiling water.

1 Tablespoon Pearl Gray
1 teaspoon Camel
1/2 teaspoon Harvest
1/2 teaspoon Taupe

8 minute soak flipping every couple of minutes.

It's as near as no nevermind to medium coyote tan as to make no difference.
Vintage Ain't Retro.
11/8/2018 10:47:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Forgive me if this is a dumb question. I have the gray B5 grip and stock. I want to dye it black, I would only need the black dye right? It won't do anything funky like make it dark blue or anything?
11/14/2018 8:25:25 AM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By Z09SS:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1959/45755017031_e2af01b127_b.jpg

Breadpan of boiling water.

1 Tablespoon Pearl Gray
1 teaspoon Camel
1/2 teaspoon Harvest
1/2 teaspoon Taupe

8 minute soak flipping every couple of minutes.

It's as near as no nevermind to medium coyote tan as to make no difference.
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Looks like a great match. Well done. Do you have a side by side pic for comparison?
11/14/2018 8:32:49 AM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By ez510:
Forgive me if this is a dumb question. I have the gray B5 grip and stock. I want to dye it black, I would only need the black dye right? It won't do anything funky like make it dark blue or anything?
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Absolutely correct. This is probably the easiest conversion out there. Liquid Black RIT, near boiling water,  and don't be shy with the amount of dye you use or how long you soak for. The longer it is in, the truer the black will be. Too early, and it will look more purple. I've dyed some Magpul furniture black before following these steps. You can't tell the difference next to stock black parts. In some instances the dyed parts look better with a deeper black.
11/14/2018 6:07:45 PM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
Looks like a great match. Well done. Do you have a side by side pic for comparison?
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Originally Posted By mhbaker81:
Originally Posted By Z09SS:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1959/45755017031_e2af01b127_b.jpg

Breadpan of boiling water.

1 Tablespoon Pearl Gray
1 teaspoon Camel
1/2 teaspoon Harvest
1/2 teaspoon Taupe

8 minute soak flipping every couple of minutes.

It's as near as no nevermind to medium coyote tan as to make no difference.
Looks like a great match. Well done. Do you have a side by side pic for comparison?


L->R
My creation.
Medium Coyote Tan.
Flat Dark Earth.
Vintage Ain't Retro.
11/16/2018 1:30:31 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By 19Charlie_84:
My OD Green SGA stock on a lower I made with a steel kit from The Flat Spot. My take on the SCR rifle.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/43684208_2087376847992785_6257759507661717504_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&oh=3fb6b63f8c5cc464e607fa696a16a8d4&oe=5C5F401F
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I came here for color recipes, but I am fascinated enough by your build that I made an account to ask for specifics.  Do you have a forum post already describing this rifle ?

Thanks!
11/17/2018 1:01:09 AM EDT
[#40]
No build thread, on the facebook 300blk discussion group I spelled most of it out. Maybe also in the magpul pic thread sticky as well. Tons of work in that thing.
12/4/2018 8:31:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4PDX][Edited] [#41]
Does anyone have a comparison between the fabric version and the synthetic versions of RIT?
From the RIT website.

"How do I know which to use?
Which dye to use?
If you are dyeing natural fabrics (such as cotton, linen, wool, silk and ramie), rayon or nylon, select Rit All-Purpose Dye. If the fabric you are dyeing contains more than 35% synthetic material (such as polyester, acrylic or acetate), select Rit DyeMore."


They also have this amazing panatone color chart. Just click the color and it will give you the mix formula. Rit formula chart
12/4/2018 9:59:44 PM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By M4PDX:
Does anyone have a comparison between the fabric version and the synthetic versions of RIT?
From the RIT website.

"How do I know which to use?
Which dye to use?
If you are dyeing natural fabrics (such as cotton, linen, wool, silk and ramie), rayon or nylon, select Rit All-Purpose Dye. If the fabric you are dyeing contains more than 35% synthetic material (such as polyester, acrylic or acetate), select Rit DyeMore."


They also have this amazing panatone color chart. Just click the color and it will give you the mix formula. Rit formula chart
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Just remember, despite the chart, PMAGS dye green with the browns.
Vintage Ain't Retro.
12/4/2018 11:33:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Anyone successful with a fire engine red?

My MCT's are pretty good.
Any luck with doing stocks handguards and grips?
1/24/2019 11:38:18 AM EDT
[#44]
TAG becasue I have some mags and baseplates on the way
UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
1/25/2019 9:51:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Do they even make and or sell sand magazines anymore?

Does this work on black magazines?
1/25/2019 11:10:18 AM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Do they even make and or sell sand magazines anymore?

Does this work on black magazines?
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Primary Arms has some
UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
1/25/2019 3:36:29 PM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Do they even make and or sell sand magazines anymore?

Does this work on black magazines?
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They did discontinue the sand color for everything but the baseplates, but there is still plenty of stock of sand Pmags out there.
1/25/2019 5:48:31 PM EDT
[#48]
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Originally Posted By Mustang-Man:
I did this very unscientifically, found a stainless pot they would fit in and filled it enough to cover the mags standing on their sides. Added the amount of dye I though would work. About a third of a bottle of aquamarine, didn't seem to penetrate well and some sand color could be seen through the blue on the baseplate and dust cover I used as test subjects even after 15min in the water on the stove at a constant temp. Added a splash of royal blue and liked the way the next test pieces came out so dunked all the mags, let them sit about 20min turning them periodically. I may not have used enough dye I don't know.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/442004/IMG_20180408_194627713-509449.JPG
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This is my favorite
UTA-"No one can take that which can not be held by the hand".
2/2/2019 2:39:37 PM EDT
[#49]
A good rant about a fella dyeing his P Mags (for those that it concerns... WARNING... some harsh language inside):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk0ZE2GoBM
2/2/2019 3:32:12 PM EDT
[#50]
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Originally Posted By Fatboy148:
A good rant about a fella dyeing his P Mags (for those that it concerns... WARNING... some harsh language inside):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRk0ZE2GoBM
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lol, that dude is ridiculous. He's going to give himself a heart attack and die Young, all because he didn't want to just buy some FDE pmags. They are out there. Millions of them. Might cost a few $ more than a sand mags + dye, but Jesus, is it worth having an aneurysm over it?
The future of your lightweight AR build begins with the PWD. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I6Qb6kAJjChEJ56qhznv2291c5UHRDyNXuSXGObumqM/edit?usp=sharing
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