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4/22/2014 12:04:56 PM EDT
http://magpul.commercev3.com/downloads/M-LOK_Release_FAQs.pdf







Looks interesting.  I remember that we used a nut almost exactly like that on some of the wire and hose clamps on the F-15s I maintained, they worked pretty well.
4/22/2014 12:49:23 PM EDT
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Well shit. Do I buy all new shit? Mill out current slots?

(The thought that went through all our minds)
4/22/2014 12:52:54 PM EDT
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That looks quite a bit like our patent pending ARC LOK mounting system.

Sven
Manticore Arms
4/22/2014 1:12:20 PM EDT
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Meh.  Either way, it's not a new idea in nuts to secure things.  I worked with clamps that used the same type of nut for 20 years, and the jets that the clamps were on had been in service for 15 years by the time I got to the first one, and likely had them as far back as the prototypes in the very early 70s.



Not a new fastener, just a (possibly) new application for them.



 
4/22/2014 2:00:28 PM EDT
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Well done, Magpul. Bravo.

I knew there was a better way than Keymod in both appearance and execution. You found it.
4/22/2014 2:17:51 PM EDT
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Very good of Magpul to put the design out there for other companies to use for free.

I look forward to seeing what other companies adopt this. I know this is Magpuls answer to Keymod; not because they are trying to make a profit, but because Keymod doesn't work with polymer, and Magpul is heavy on the polymer products.

I hope this takes off. It looks better than Keymod, and looks more practical.
4/22/2014 3:28:38 PM EDT
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What advantage is there to this vs other "modular" designs?
4/22/2014 3:47:22 PM EDT
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Off the top of my head, easier to machine than Keymod, while being more suited to polymers, and cheaper to produce handguards and free-float tubes that don't need threaded inserts.  There are other FAQ discussions of the benefits in the PDF.



 
4/22/2014 8:23:11 PM EDT
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After reading the whole product brief, I can say bravo Magpul. Very well thought out and I believe will be a great contender to the 'shelf rails' currently in favor within the industry.

I want to know what this is, but I guess I'll have to wait a couple more days:
• M-LOK will immediately replace MOE slots on all new products introduced by Magpul
Industries. The first of these will be the new MOE SL shown at the 2014 NRA Annual
Meeting and Exhibits April 25th-27th.
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4/22/2014 8:55:02 PM EDT
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Will we be able to find a list anywhere of manufactures who may be adopting M-Lok, for rails or for accessories?
4/23/2014 12:04:13 AM EDT
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Off the top of my head, easier to machine than Keymod, while being more suited to polymers, and cheaper to produce handguards and free-float tubes that don't need threaded inserts.
 
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Well said, I think it opens up a few new doors in the form of materials we are seeing currently being used for rails as well.  
4/23/2014 3:04:01 AM EDT
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After reading the whole product brief, I can say bravo Magpul. Very well thought out and I believe will be a great contender to the 'shelf rails' currently in favor within the industry.

I want to know what this is, but I guess I'll have to wait a couple more days:
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After reading the whole product brief, I can say bravo Magpul. Very well thought out and I believe will be a great contender to the 'shelf rails' currently in favor within the industry.

I want to know what this is, but I guess I'll have to wait a couple more days:
• M-LOK will immediately replace MOE slots on all new products introduced by Magpul
Industries. The first of these will be the new MOE SL shown at the 2014 NRA Annual
Meeting and Exhibits April 25th-27th.


I was wondering the same. I'm hoping it's a handguard of some sort.
4/23/2014 8:05:50 AM EDT
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See here...wait until the end...seems to be a variant or replacement of the MOE handguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57WIow3Mws#t=27
4/23/2014 8:35:11 AM EDT
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See here...wait until the end...seems to be a variant or replacement of the MOE handguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57WIow3Mws#t=27
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I was wondering the same. I'm hoping it's a handguard of some sort.



See here...wait until the end...seems to be a variant or replacement of the MOE handguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57WIow3Mws#t=27



Looks like it extends to the left over the delta ring and to the right around the bottom of the FSB.
4/23/2014 10:52:18 AM EDT
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That looks quite a bit like our patent pending ARC LOK mounting system.

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Doesn't look like it to me, same concept different execution.
4/23/2014 6:24:04 PM EDT
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the slots on MOE were always to narrow. Couldn't even fit a tape switch through them. The new product looks good, but it's kind of annoying that the couple of MOE handguards that I have bought recently will have no accessories being made for them in the future.
4/23/2014 6:36:59 PM EDT
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the slots on MOE were always to narrow. Couldn't even fit a tape switch through them. The new product looks good, but it's kind of annoying that the couple of MOE handguards that I have bought recently will have no accessories being made for them in the future.
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You can easily cut or dremel out the vents in your existing MOE handguards to the new M-LOK slot size, since the M-LOK slots are bigger. You just gotta be really careful and steady handed when you do it. A couple hours' effort will save you a bunch of money from having to upgrade. Read the PDF on the M-LOK system in the OP and scroll down to the FAQ/Q&A section, they show you the size difference in the vent slots.
4/23/2014 7:13:16 PM EDT
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I was wondering the same. I'm hoping it's a handguard of some sort.



See here...wait until the end...seems to be a variant or replacement of the MOE handguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57WIow3Mws#t=27

http://i.imgur.com/xiPZje2.png

Looks like it extends to the left over the delta ring and to the right around the bottom of the FSB.


It does look like a new MOE handguard, I see "MOE ?" on the front end, cannot make out what is in the box. This would appear like it is right and left side pieces but could be just showing the inside of the handguard; the new mystery product has the below equator line like classic MOEs have so it could be top/bottom split.

Sunday - PMAG 25 LR gen 3
Monday - AUS PMAG
Tuesday - MLOK
Wednesday - MK8 Rail
Thursday - New MOE handguard??
Friday - AK handguards and stocks for sure

NRA show opening is on Friday,
4/23/2014 7:24:21 PM EDT
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It does look like a new MOE handguard, I see "MOE ?" on the front end, cannot make out what is in the box. This would appear like it is right and left side pieces but could be just showing the inside of the handguard; the new mystery product has the below equator line like classic MOEs have so it could be top/bottom split.

Sunday - PMAG 25 LR gen 3
Monday - AUS PMAG
Tuesday - MLOK
Wednesday - MK8 Rail
Thursday - New MOE handguard??
Friday - AK handguards and stocks for sure

NRA show opening is on Friday,
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I was wondering the same. I'm hoping it's a handguard of some sort.



See here...wait until the end...seems to be a variant or replacement of the MOE handguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57WIow3Mws#t=27

http://i.imgur.com/xiPZje2.png

Looks like it extends to the left over the delta ring and to the right around the bottom of the FSB.


It does look like a new MOE handguard, I see "MOE ?" on the front end, cannot make out what is in the box. This would appear like it is right and left side pieces but could be just showing the inside of the handguard; the new mystery product has the below equator line like classic MOEs have so it could be top/bottom split.

Sunday - PMAG 25 LR gen 3
Monday - AUS PMAG
Tuesday - MLOK
Wednesday - MK8 Rail
Thursday - New MOE handguard??
Friday - AK handguards and stocks for sure

NRA show opening is on Friday,


Its an AK handguard.
The cut of the back is the same as saiga-type factory handguards
4/23/2014 8:44:42 PM EDT
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4/24/2014 5:08:05 AM EDT
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Unless it's the free float MOE AR handguard they were sort of hinting about a while back... can you show us what you mean about the Saiga handguards?
4/24/2014 8:13:58 AM EDT
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The M-LOK is a great idea. I was wondering when someone was going to do a universal type system and make it free. Kind of like the keymod, but easier/cheaper to produce.

The Magpul MOE SL looks like a Saiga/AK hand guard. I guess we'll find out Friday.
4/24/2014 3:37:52 PM EDT
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Unless it's the free float MOE AR handguard they were sort of hinting about a while back... can you show us what you mean about the Saiga handguards?
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Its an AK handguard.
The cut of the back is the same as saiga-type factory handguards


Unless it's the free float MOE AR handguard they were sort of hinting about a while back... can you show us what you mean about the Saiga handguards?

There to expose the lever on the rear sight base so you can remove the gas tube

4/25/2014 2:55:43 AM EDT
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The inside of that looks nothing like any kind of AK I've ever seen.  The retainer on the front is round...and the back is shaped nothing like an AK either.  I'm going with 'not an AK'.
4/25/2014 3:22:58 AM EDT
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I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.
It is not for an AR.
4/25/2014 4:24:05 AM EDT
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I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.

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The inside of that looks nothing like any kind of AK I've ever seen.  The retainer on the front is round...and the back is shaped nothing like an AK either.  I'm going with 'not an AK'.


I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.

It is not for an AR.
The big round part on the front goes over the hand guard cap and covers a good portion of the front sight base, the rear partially envelops the delta ring.



 
4/25/2014 4:46:47 AM EDT
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The inside of that looks nothing like any kind of AK I've ever seen.  The retainer on the front is round...and the back is shaped nothing like an AK either.  I'm going with 'not an AK'.

I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.
It is not for an AR.
The big round part on the front goes over the hand guard cap and covers a good portion of the front sight base, the rear partially envelops the delta ring.
 


So where does that lower part extend to? You cant do that on an AR. Why would you anyway?

Why is there a cut in the top rear? So you can tactically examine your gas tube?

That is for an AK.
4/25/2014 9:12:38 AM EDT
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So where does that lower part extend to? You cant do that on an AR. Why would you anyway?

Why is there a cut in the top rear? So you can tactically examine your gas tube?

That is for an AK.
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The inside of that looks nothing like any kind of AK I've ever seen.  The retainer on the front is round...and the back is shaped nothing like an AK either.  I'm going with 'not an AK'.

I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.
It is not for an AR.
The big round part on the front goes over the hand guard cap and covers a good portion of the front sight base, the rear partially envelops the delta ring.
 


So where does that lower part extend to? You cant do that on an AR. Why would you anyway?

Why is there a cut in the top rear? So you can tactically examine your gas tube?

That is for an AK.


You're looking at it backwards. What you're calling top rear is actually the top front. Compare it to current MOE handguards. The nub on the bottom, under the MOE SL text is the same.
4/25/2014 9:18:51 AM EDT
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Hopefully we get some new info today on the MOE SL with the opening of the exhibit at the NRA Show.
4/25/2014 9:57:36 AM EDT
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Maybe this answers it?
http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG538/184
4/25/2014 10:06:51 AM EDT
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Whoa, what the hell is this?

http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG347/60





MOE® SL™ Carbine Stock – Mil-Spec Model

Where did that come from?
4/25/2014 11:40:32 AM EDT
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Looks like there's a SL stock, grip and handguards. Awesome.
4/25/2014 12:02:20 PM EDT
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You're looking at it backwards. What you're calling top rear is actually the top front. Compare it to current MOE handguards. The nub on the bottom, under the MOE SL text is the same.
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The inside of that looks nothing like any kind of AK I've ever seen.  The retainer on the front is round...and the back is shaped nothing like an AK either.  I'm going with 'not an AK'.

I dont know how that handguard would fit on an AR.
It is not for an AR.
The big round part on the front goes over the hand guard cap and covers a good portion of the front sight base, the rear partially envelops the delta ring.
 


So where does that lower part extend to? You cant do that on an AR. Why would you anyway?

Why is there a cut in the top rear? So you can tactically examine your gas tube?

That is for an AK.


You're looking at it backwards. What you're calling top rear is actually the top front. Compare it to current MOE handguards. The nub on the bottom, under the MOE SL text is the same.


Ha! I was.
4/27/2014 4:28:41 PM EDT
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Off the top of my head, easier to machine than Keymod, while being more suited to polymers, and cheaper to produce handguards and free-float tubes that don't need threaded inserts.  There are other FAQ discussions of the benefits in the PDF.
 
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What advantage is there to this vs other "modular" designs?
Off the top of my head, easier to machine than Keymod, while being more suited to polymers, and cheaper to produce handguards and free-float tubes that don't need threaded inserts.  There are other FAQ discussions of the benefits in the PDF.
 


Hmm...well with a magpul logo, I'm sure it'll sell like hotcakes.