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1/21/2013 5:50:12 PM EDT
You've made a polymer lower as a test. You did it. I know you have.

You can't not have tried it just for the hell of it. You have all the equipment,  you designed your own metal lowers, you have sixteen trillion buttloads of polymer material. Just admit it.There is a Magpul poly lower somewhere in existence.

I just want to see a photo. That's all.
1/21/2013 5:56:00 PM EDT
[#1]
1/21/2013 5:56:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Since the old lowers were the MPL MagPul Lower, this could be the MPPL MagPul Polymer Lower.
1/21/2013 5:56:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Mother of all callout threads???



1/21/2013 6:03:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Good luck with that.
1/21/2013 6:06:29 PM EDT
[#5]
In for the troof Magpul...the truth shall set you free!
1/21/2013 6:09:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Roll out the 4.5 lb MOE rifle!
1/21/2013 6:14:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Good luck with that.


If there was one time magpul would actually say "fuck it, heres the pic", this maaaaay just be the one.

1/21/2013 6:18:11 PM EDT
[#8]
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Good luck with that.


If there was one time magpul would actually say "fuck it, heres the pic", this maaaaay just be the one.



Only if its something they NEVER intend to pursue further.
1/21/2013 6:35:44 PM EDT
[#9]
I've seen one, but it was on an airsoft rifle.
1/21/2013 7:10:02 PM EDT
[#10]
I wonder why it is that Magpul has decided to stick with their accessory business and not get into the Manufacturing FFL business... Even with such amazing designs as the ORIGINAL Masada.  

1/21/2013 8:03:02 PM EDT
[#11]
More money in accessories. Less overhead, liability etc. Smart, IMO.

A Polymer Magpul lower would really kick ass though.  Problem is, they'd probably mold in a one size fits all grip and it'd be a skinny lil thing.
1/21/2013 8:38:58 PM EDT
[#12]
I'll take it
1/21/2013 8:42:40 PM EDT
[#13]
One would assume that they don't want to alienate their OEM contracts.

Or, they're just doing some *seriously* long term testing to make sure it works perfectly before even dreaming of production runs.

Imagine if they did actually sell them...$50 for a stripper AR lower might not be an impossible price point.
1/21/2013 8:55:17 PM EDT
[#14]
In for "the statement"





Also made one "just cause" means you don't know much about molding.
1/21/2013 9:05:55 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Also made one "just cause" means you don't know much about molding.

Rapid prototype (ie, 3d printers) comes long before molding.
1/21/2013 9:13:44 PM EDT
[#16]
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$50 for a stripped AR lower might not be an impossible price point.


Already seen that with aluminum lowers, probably will again soon too.
1/21/2013 9:43:28 PM EDT
[#17]
I WANT THIS!!!




1/21/2013 10:19:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Just tagging this to see if Magpul says anything.
1/21/2013 10:51:57 PM EDT
[#19]

I still have one of those posters. I don't know what the online reaction was, but the energy at that shot show due to that product was unbelievable.  It literally stole the show.

Like the OP I've contemplated the possibilities of a potential/hypothetical "PLower" and have some definite ideas on what I would like to see.
1/22/2013 4:19:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Wouldn't surprise me if Magpul was working on a Polymer lower or at least experimented with the idea.
1/22/2013 4:56:06 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I WANT THIS!!!

[Magpul Masada]

I still have one of those posters. I don't know what the online reaction was,

There was ... uh ... enthusiasm. I mean. Just a little. A skosh. A wee dram.

People were excited enough to be quite thoroughly butthurt about Bushmaster's launch of the ACR 3 years later. (I like mine, FWIW.)
1/23/2013 10:21:51 AM EDT
[#22]
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Wouldn't surprise me if Magpul was working on a Polymer lower or at least experimented with the idea.


Yeah I bet they are doing it in the same room they are making SCAR 17 mags.
1/23/2013 10:41:13 AM EDT
[#23]
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Wouldn't surprise me if Magpul was working on a Polymer lower or at least experimented with the idea.


Yeah I bet they are doing it in the same room they are making SCAR 17 mags.


So any minute now?
1/24/2013 2:45:39 PM EDT
[#24]
I'll take the lower if still available. Send PayPal info.
1/24/2013 3:30:37 PM EDT
[#25]




Quoted:

I'll take the lower if still available. Send PayPal info.




I already called dibs 12 post up
1/24/2013 4:18:40 PM EDT
[#26]
i would settle for a magpul drop in "frame" for a 10/22 styled after the masada.
that way none of the manufacturers would be upset and we could have a cheap fun toy to play with.
1/24/2013 7:42:33 PM EDT
[#27]
If CavArms did it quite some time ago, I bet a dollar to a doughnut MagPul gave it a whirl. But didn't they say not too long ago they didn't want to be in the business of selling serialized items? Thought I read that here. May be mistaken. Might have been a different vendor.
1/24/2013 7:48:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Fuck this thread, just send me a china doll lower and we will call it even.
1/24/2013 7:53:25 PM EDT
[#29]
If Glock could do it - you know that Magpul could do it in their sleep.....

Prob on hold right now to see where the AWB BS goes

Red

1/24/2013 10:14:23 PM EDT
[#30]
I think a lot of you are over estimating the profit margins on producing a lower.  You have to look at the costs of legal fees, insurance, licensing, etc for a product that might not make you a whole lot of money.  Economics is a bitch sometimes.
1/24/2013 10:54:48 PM EDT
[#31]
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Also made one "just cause" means you don't know much about molding.

Rapid prototype (ie, 3d printers) comes long before molding.


A 3d printed lower would be incredibly weak compared to an injection molded lower. I don't see why you couldn't basically just mill a lower out of a polymer block though.
1/24/2013 11:00:28 PM EDT
[#32]
They will come up with the polymer lower that will be the basis for the "GLOCK CARBINE"!
1/24/2013 11:48:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Okay Drake; the gauntlet has been dropped and the challenge has been made...

1/25/2013 12:01:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Also made one "just cause" means you don't know much about molding.

Rapid prototype (ie, 3d printers) comes long before molding.


A 3d printed lower would be incredibly weak compared to an injection molded lower. I don't see why you couldn't basically just mill a lower out of a polymer block though.

The Masada prototypes were 3d printed and were functional.  Certainly not arguing that it is as strong as molded, but it's a certainty that there would be 3d printed prototypes long before there would be molded ones, if there ever would be molded ones.
1/25/2013 5:35:09 PM EDT
[#35]
Magpul guys?.... i wonder
1/25/2013 6:15:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I think a lot of you are over estimating the profit margins on producing a lower.  You have to look at the costs of legal fees, insurance, licensing, etc for a product that might not make you a whole lot of money.  Economics is a bitch sometimes.



Injection-molding plastic stuff, if it's in quantity, is awfully cheap.  A whole lot more so than forging, machining, and anodizing.

In fact, injection-molding a lower receiver probably wouldn't cost more than a few dollars more than producing a PMAG.
1/25/2013 6:30:18 PM EDT
[#37]
1/25/2013 8:02:31 PM EDT
[#38]


wo wo wo... stop the clock!  
that is pretty saweet...
1/25/2013 9:11:52 PM EDT
[#39]
do want, do want, do want








 
1/25/2013 9:42:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Interesting.
1/25/2013 9:48:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Seeing as the ACR started as a product improved AR, it wouldn't surprise me if MagPul had at least experimented with the idea.
1/25/2013 9:49:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Its an ACR lower guys calm down. But if you show me one that has the takedown pins for an AR upper, Ill shit a brick and eat crow.
1/25/2013 10:14:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Where is that takemymoney jpeg?
1/25/2013 10:38:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Sad that the ACR fizzled out.
1/25/2013 11:29:46 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
In for "the statement"


Also made one "just cause" means you don't know much about molding.


Don't they make their molds in-house?  That's the expensive part, cheap if you make your own.

1/26/2013 9:38:02 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
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I think a lot of you are over estimating the profit margins on producing a lower.  You have to look at the costs of legal fees, insurance, licensing, etc for a product that might not make you a whole lot of money.  Economics is a bitch sometimes.



Injection-molding plastic stuff, if it's in quantity, is awfully cheap.  A whole lot more so than forging, machining, and anodizing.

In fact, injection-molding a lower receiver probably wouldn't cost more than a few dollars more than producing a PMAG.


Yes, it cheaper to produce once you have paid for the sunk costs, but the sunk costs are quite large.  Its a question of risk versus reward, blindly stating that Magpul could make tons of money doing this is ridiculous, especially factoring in opportunity costs.  Could they make a lot of money?  Maybe, but there is a lot more that goes into making a product line profitable than internet guesses.
1/26/2013 11:02:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Word on the street is Magpul is extremely open about their research and development and production. I hear they operate out of a translucent building so everyone can see exactly what they are up to, in addition to that big counter on top that says how many P-Mags they manufactured for the day.
1/26/2013 11:22:09 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
A 3d printed lower would be incredibly weak compared to an injection molded lower. I don't see why you couldn't basically just mill a lower out of a polymer block though.


people have done exactly that, making ar lowers from cutting boards.
1/26/2013 4:18:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Word on the street is Magpul is extremely open about their research and development and production. I hear they operate out of a translucent building so everyone can see exactly what they are up to, in addition to that big counter on top that says how many P-Mags they manufactured for the day.


1/29/2013 7:42:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Word on the street is Magpul is extremely open about their research and development and production. I hear they operate out of a translucent building so everyone can see exactly what they are up to, in addition to that big counter on top that says how many P-Mags they manufactured for the day.


hahaha, actually made me LOL!
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