Posted: 4/18/2010 3:14:55 PM EDT
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Held a black rifle with MOE pistol grip and handguard at the NC gun show.
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| First time I saw the MOE handguard I thought it was hideous looking and there's no way it could be comfortable than standard handguards. Then I bought a MOE furniture set just to try something different and was pleasantly surprised. I've had a couple of people comment on how light my carbine is. |
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yeah if you're not looking to mount an optic on your handguard the MOE handguards are the way to go. Especially for the price. Light as a feather Quoted: Held a black rifle with MOE pistol grip and handguard at the NC gun show. That is LIGHT. |
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yeah if you're not looking to mount an optic on your handguard the MOE handguards are the way to go. Especially for the price. Light as a feather Quoted:
Held a black rifle with MOE pistol grip and handguard at the NC gun show. That is LIGHT. Would help if I had an upper for my lower first. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. Ah! LOL. I gotcha now. I thought you had been waiting 2 1/2 years! Sorry. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. The requirement to be 21 is only to buy one from a licensed dealer. as an 18 year old, you can buy an AR and then file a Form 1 to make it into an SBR; or you can buy one from a private seller within your State. Of course, NC does have some further requirements to own NFA weapons, such as you must be a dealer or collector (C&R) and it must be for R&D purposes. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. The requirement to be 21 is only to buy one from a licensed dealer. as an 18 year old, you can buy an AR and then file a Form 1 to make it into an SBR; or you can buy one from a private seller within your State. Of course, NC does have some further requirements to own NFA weapons, such as you must be a dealer or collector (C&R) and it must be for R&D purposes. I can have an SBR? I wouldn't mind one of those. |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. The requirement to be 21 is only to buy one from a licensed dealer. as an 18 year old, you can buy an AR and then file a Form 1 to make it into an SBR; or you can buy one from a private seller within your State. Of course, NC does have some further requirements to own NFA weapons, such as you must be a dealer or collector (C&R) and it must be for R&D purposes. I believe this only applies to Full Auto's, not to SBR, SBS, or Suppressors |
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I have a 10" SBR planned with MOE stuff because I have heard its so light. Should be able to buy it in about 2 weeks. Then the waiting game for the stamp... I have a nice long 2 1/2 year wait before I can do any NFA stuff. Good luck. 2 1/2 years? The AR builder I'm using, Arizona Armory, said his have been averaging 4-6 weeks. Why so long for you? As for the FDE, my current AR, which is more of an SPR set-up is in FDE so the SBR is going to be foliage. Don't you have to be 21 for NFA items? I'm only 18. The requirement to be 21 is only to buy one from a licensed dealer. as an 18 year old, you can buy an AR and then file a Form 1 to make it into an SBR; or you can buy one from a private seller within your State. Of course, NC does have some further requirements to own NFA weapons, such as you must be a dealer or collector (C&R) and it must be for R&D purposes. I believe this only applies to Full Auto's, not to SBR, SBS, or Suppressors Nope, it applies to all "weapons of mass destruction." Read here for more info. |
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wow, i read the "weapons of mass destruction" part located on page 24... WTF? NC laws are teh ghey!.. suppressors, SBS, SBRs, etc. are considered "weapons of mass destruction" under NC law... fucking stupid asshats and their fearful ignorane of firearms i suppose... to the poster who is 18 looking for a short AR, you could possibly look into an AR pistol build, if you ever move to a state with less restrictive laws you could then file a form 1, once you receive your stamp and have the lower engraved, just add a buttstock... K. |
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^^^^^ wow, i read the "weapons of mass destruction" part located on page 24... WTF? NC laws are teh ghey!.. suppressors, SBS, SBRs, etc. are considered "weapons of mass destruction" under NC law... fucking stupid asshats and their fearful ignorane of firearms i suppose... to the poster who is 18 looking for a short AR, you could possibly look into an AR pistol build, if you ever move to a state with less restrictive laws you could then file a form 1, once you receive your stamp and have the lower engraved, just add a buttstock... K. He actually can't do a pistol build unless he buys a stripped reciever which has NEVER had a stock on it from a private seller (non-FFL). FFL's may only sell rifles and shotguns, no pistols, recievers, or other firearms, to persons under the age of 21. Unfortunately for the poster, NC pretty much requires you to be a licensed dealer, manufacturer, or collector to make or possess an NFA weapon (or WMD, as NC likes to call them) and you can't get any kind of FFL until you're 21. So, as it turns out, his only two courses of action are to either wait until he does turn 21, or move to a less restrictive State. And that's just a small insight into how confusing the NFA gets vis a vis State laws. (In WA State, you can own a suppressor, but can't use it on a firearm.) |
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agreed it suks... yeah washington's laws on suppressors are wierd also. heck, i helped a guy in the shop this past weekend from canada, sbs/sbr are gtg but they have strict mag capacity limits. i knew it used to be 5, he says it's now 10 round mag capacity due to some new canadian national pistol law, at least they got a little bump in capacity, hell IMHO they're a lot better off than those poor folks using internal CA-OK mags, single stack 10 round limit propritary / odd sized mags, and boo-lit-butt-ins. and are probably on par or better off than with several other behind the lines states. again IMHO...
affirmative on NCs ghey "WMD" wording and restrictions of laws concerning firearms, affairmative on FFL and NFA 21 y/o age requirements, affirmative on the stripped reciever(though i should have been more specific on my wording of "an AR pistol build"), and ofcourse you are correct on the 21 y/o age requirement what with the national youth handgun safety act and all... i know i'd typed it out guess i acidently deleted it when i edited and rewrote some other wording i didn't like in my last post and was not specific enough, but... his legal gaurdian(since he's already 18) parent or other immediate instate family member over the age of 21, could absolutelly purchase said stripped AR pistol lower, and "legally gift" it to him(under federal and VA laws anyway, i'm not sure on any NC laws that may be different). even though he can not legally purchase any pistol himself until he is 21, under the laws i am familiar with he can posses a legaly obtained and gifted pistol... K. |
