Posted: 4/27/2009 7:20:16 AM EDT
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Can anyone tell me the specific difference between the "official" version and the licensed airsoft version of these sights?
Give me technical data please. Don't just tell me the "official" one is better just because it's official. Honestly, they look the same. A plastic sight is a plastic sight and I can't tell the difference in looking at them. Is the plastic a higher grade, are the metal parts super strong vs pot metal? What's the deal? Honestly they both look like they both belong on an Airsoft gun. I like the price point vs a Troy, but I haven't been convinced that buying the airsoft version is any different on this particular sight. |
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I read somewhere that the airsoft version was not made to withstand the recoil of a real rifle, and that the sights would break or fall off. Plus, the airsoft sights aren't actually made by Magpul itself. Magpul has an airsoft company making the Magpul replicas. Besides the actual data, why would you even think about putting airsoft sights on a real rifle?  I have never heard of a firearm manufacturer making airsoft products at the exact same production and standard as their actual products. If Magpul does then I guess that's pretty neat. But I've never heard of such a thing. BEcause they might be exactly the same? He was asking to find out if they were..Thats all. |
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Those that say the 2 sets are "EXACTLY" the same, please feel free to enlighten me how, I am just a lay person and honestly, please describe how they are exactly the same so I can be better informed.
IF YOUR answer consists of, there both plastic, then your not explaining much to this lay person, so please, this is AR Discussion, a tech forum, I'm listening for the technical difference.... |
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Here are the differences.
1. The Magpul MBUS is made from our custom blended polymer as used in the PMags, The PTS sights use off the shelf DuPont polymer which is not as strong. (Is there a difference? -most definitely yes) 2. Aperture on rear sights for Magpul MBUS is always Black, PTS sights have rear apertures the same color as the sights. 3. Front sight posts is smaller in width than milspec. 4. Front sight rotation is stopped with a roll pin on the Magpul MBUS and a set screw on the PTS sights. 5. All hardware on Magpul MBUS is mil spec grade and coated to mil spec standards. PTS sights use off the shelf hardware with stock coatings. 6. PTS sights are marked as such on the front of the bases to avoid confusion between the two. The PTS sights are made to a high standard compared to most other Airsoft items but they are not to be used in an operational environment. Could you put PTS sights on a plinker 22 and hit cans with them? Yes they will probably work, but if you are using your rifle for serious work then buy the real tools for the job. |
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Here are the differences. 1. The Magpul MBUS is made from our custom blended polymer as used in the PMags, The PTS sights use off the shelf DuPont polymer which is not as strong. (Is there a difference? -most definitely yes) 2. Aperture on rear sights for Magpul MBUS is always Black, PTS sights have rear apertures the same color as the sights. 3. Front sight posts is smaller in width than milspec. 4. Front sight rotation is stopped with a roll pin on the Magpul MBUS and a set screw on the PTS sights. 5. All hardware on Magpul MBUS is mil spec grade and coated to mil spec standards. PTS sights use off the shelf hardware with stock coatings. 6. PTS sights are marked as such on the front of the bases to avoid confusion between the two. The PTS sights are made to a high standard compared to most other Airsoft items but they are not to be used in an operational environment. Could you put PTS sights on a plinker 22 and hit cans with them? Yes they will probably work, but if you are using your rifle for serious work then buy the real tools for the job. Thanks for taking the time to lay out the real differences for everyone, but I did not expect you guys to reply, I was mostly being sarcastic/ tongue in chee to those who say the knock offs are just as good, I suspect they are very much the opposet, I have no doubt your MBUIS was built to a far greater standard then some knock off garbage. Yeah I said it, copy cat users can "have at me" online. 
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Here are the differences. 1. The Magpul MBUS is made from our custom blended polymer as used in the PMags, The PTS sights use off the shelf DuPont polymer which is not as strong. (Is there a difference? -most definitely yes) 2. Aperture on rear sights for Magpul MBUS is always Black, PTS sights have rear apertures the same color as the sights. 3. Front sight posts is smaller in width than milspec. 4. Front sight rotation is stopped with a roll pin on the Magpul MBUS and a set screw on the PTS sights. 5. All hardware on Magpul MBUS is mil spec grade and coated to mil spec standards. PTS sights use off the shelf hardware with stock coatings. 6. PTS sights are marked as such on the front of the bases to avoid confusion between the two. The PTS sights are made to a high standard compared to most other Airsoft items but they are not to be used in an operational environment. Could you put PTS sights on a plinker 22 and hit cans with them? Yes they will probably work, but if you are using your rifle for serious work then buy the real tools for the job. I LOVE when "The Man" comes in and busts up all the fun "discussions". 
I'm kidding, I really do appreciate you and all the other dedicated industry partners that are here to help the everyday average AR owner get a great product and not make the mistake of purchasing a subpar product. THANKS! |
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How can you tell the difference so I dont get an Airsoft instead?? Thanks Buy a Troy instead. Troys make nice sights, but your statement is naive. There are high quaility Airsoft versions of Troys, ARMs, GG&G, Knights and pretty much every other site out there including optics like Aimpoint and Leupold. Please understand that we can either play in this arena and make an attempt to set marking standards or the counterfeiters will fill the gap and produce exact copies with exact markings (but poorer materials) and no one will be sure of what they are buying. |
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the recoil isnt the issue rambo, its how hot the upper receiver gets. the front BUS will melt with the airsoft one. If you read my post, I said that I read somewhere that the sights would not hold up as well under recoil. I didn't say that I found that to be proven true. |
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I read somewhere that the airsoft version was not made to withstand the recoil of a real rifle, and that the sights would break or fall off. Plus, the airsoft sights aren't actually made by Magpul itself. Magpul has an airsoft company making the Magpul replicas. Besides the actual data, why would you even think about putting airsoft sights on a real rifle? BEcause they might be exactly the same?
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I read somewhere that the airsoft version was not made to withstand the recoil of a real rifle, and that the sights would break or fall off. Plus, the airsoft sights aren't actually made by Magpul itself. Magpul has an airsoft company making the Magpul replicas. Besides the actual data, why would you even think about putting airsoft sights on a real rifle? BEcause they might be exactly the same? I have never heard of a firearm manufacturer making airsoft products at the exact same production and standard as their actual products. If Magpul does then I guess that's pretty neat. But I've never heard of such a thing. |
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I read somewhere that the airsoft version was not made to withstand the recoil of a real rifle, and that the sights would break or fall off. Plus, the airsoft sights aren't actually made by Magpul itself. Magpul has an airsoft company making the Magpul replicas.
Besides the actual data, why would you even think about putting airsoft sights on a real rifle? |
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The only difference is the polymer that the sights are made out of.
The official Magpul Sights are made out of their exclusive wonder plastic. The PTS sights are made out of a different polymer blend. If you're putting these on a real gun, stick with the official magpul sights. If you're a bench shooter and you're buying these for show, the PTS sights will work for you but again, its not recommended. Other than that, there is no real difference between the two. One difference that i have noted is that the lockup on the PTS versions is a little rougher than real ones since they didnt round off the locking tabs. |
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Those that say the 2 sets are "EXACTLY" the same, please feel free to enlighten me how, I am just a lay person and honestly, please describe how they are exactly the same so I can be better informed. IF YOUR answer consists of, there both plastic, then your not explaining much to this lay person, so please, this is AR Discussion, a tech forum, I'm listening for the technical difference.... Please feel free to enlighten us as how they are different?They MIGHT be excactly is what i said and why he was asking the question so he could know.. So please dont take a Single word and turn it into what you want please, no worse than liberals doing it. |
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Those that say the 2 sets are "EXACTLY" the same, please feel free to enlighten me how, I am just a lay person and honestly, please describe how they are exactly the same so I can be better informed. IF YOUR answer consists of, there both plastic, then your not explaining much to this lay person, so please, this is AR Discussion, a tech forum, I'm listening for the technical difference.... Please feel free to enlighten us as how they are different?They MIGHT be excactly is what i said and why he was asking the question so he could know.. So please dont take a Single word and turn it into what you want please, no worse than liberals doing it. Hint: read above your post. |
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Those that say the 2 sets are "EXACTLY" the same, please feel free to enlighten me how, I am just a lay person and honestly, please describe how they are exactly the same so I can be better informed. IF YOUR answer consists of, there both plastic, then your not explaining much to this lay person, so please, this is AR Discussion, a tech forum, I'm listening for the technical difference.... Please feel free to enlighten us as how they are different?They MIGHT be excactly is what i said and why he was asking the question so he could know.. So please dont take a Single word and turn it into what you want please, no worse than liberals doing it. Hint: read above your post. Hint: Sarcasm... |
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Those that say the 2 sets are "EXACTLY" the same, please feel free to enlighten me how, I am just a lay person and honestly, please describe how they are exactly the same so I can be better informed. IF YOUR answer consists of, there both plastic, then your not explaining much to this lay person, so please, this is AR Discussion, a tech forum, I'm listening for the technical difference.... Please feel free to enlighten us as how they are different?They MIGHT be excactly is what i said and why he was asking the question so he could know.. So please dont take a Single word and turn it into what you want please, no worse than liberals doing it. Hint: read above your post. Hint: Sarcasm... 
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Here are the differences. 1. The Magpul MBUS is made from our custom blended polymer as used in the PMags, The PTS sights use off the shelf DuPont polymer which is not as strong. (Is there a difference? -most definitely yes) 2. Aperture on rear sights for Magpul MBUS is always Black, PTS sights have rear apertures the same color as the sights. 3. Front sight posts is smaller in width than milspec. 4. Front sight rotation is stopped with a roll pin on the Magpul MBUS and a set screw on the PTS sights. 5. All hardware on Magpul MBUS is mil spec grade and coated to mil spec standards. PTS sights use off the shelf hardware with stock coatings. 6. PTS sights are marked as such on the front of the bases to avoid confusion between the two. The PTS sights are made to a high standard compared to most other Airsoft items but they are not to be used in an operational environment. Could you put PTS sights on a plinker 22 and hit cans with them? Yes they will probably work, but if you are using your rifle for serious work then buy the real tools for the job. Thanks, exactly what I was wondering. Thanks for clarifying that. Not having seen either in person, I was just wondering about the differences as I'm a little hesitant about plastic sights in general. |
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I don't see why people make a big deal about them being polymer...plastic...whatever
so are half the pistols on the market (glock, hk, xd, m&p, px4) so are PMAGS, and CTRs, and UBRs, and PRSs, and MOEs, and MIADS. ever seen what happens to a steel or aluminum mag vs a PMAG when run over by a truck? |
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Buy from reputable dealers and you will not run the risk of buying a chinese piece of shit, ie a COUNTERFEIT Magpul PTS product.
ALL PTS products are marked as such and again, REPUTABLE Airsoft dealers will not sell these sights to anyone that mentions they are putting them onto a real firearm. At the risk of being crucified, i am an airsoft dealer and for each and every order of the PTS MBUS's that i sell, i call the individual to ensure that these sights are not being put on real weapons. Again, reputable firearms dealers and reputable Airsoft dealers will not misrepresent their products. The end user runs the risk of receiving a counterfeit product with ANYTHING they purchase from non reputable dealers ie Ebay. Buyer beware. At the risk of digging my grave even deeper i will say that there is indeed a difference between the PTS versions and the official magpul version. You can feel the difference and you can see the difference. I can get some high res pictures if anyone would like a comparison between the real deal and the PTS offerings. |
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I put the PTS sights on on of my AR's and I think that they work fine, But this is not a work rifle or any thing like that.
here are some pics of the rifle and a 35 yard of hand group once I had them sighted in. No they dont melt, no they dont move around, no they dont feel cheap (compared to my stock, grip and mag. the polymer looks to be the same.....at least I looked very hard and I cant tell the difference). They hold zero great and function great! I covered this in a thread a few weeks ago. 
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