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I thought the trooper was a bit brisk, but certainly not disrespectful. The dude continually interrupted him, and continued to try and lie. Seemed pretty straight up to me. It certainly could have turned MUCH worse with him walking back toward the cruiser like that. I've certainly had stops not go that smoothly. The trooper kept his cool pretty well. His voice never rose, he continued to say sir, he continued to quietly and calmly maintain control. I wasn't a fan of his style of asking about the speed, but that's simply matter of difference in style/technique, not a hit on him. Seemed pretty fair. I don't debate on the roadside. And I never say a word until I have all the documents I ask for to begin with. |
| Personally, I wouldn't have said anything if I was that guy. That's what you get when you whine and lie, trying to make excuses. That said... I thought he caught up kind of fast for the guy supposedly doing 90 mph... I wonder if arguing earned him an extra 15 mph or something. |
| I read the description... I'm still not convinced. I THINK I may have seen another vehicle in the video, but it's really hard to tell. Based on simply the interaction during the stop itself, I don't see a problem. But I didn't see the pace speedometer, nor did I observe the vehicle when the trooper did so I can' tcomment on whether he was speeding or not. |
If I remember right, the NJSP and the Mass State Police uniforms looked like that long before the Nazi's came in power... |
That they did. |
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Driver should have just been polite and reasonable, might not have been cited then. Cop seemed pretty reasonable. But here is a cop who is even more cool considering the situation: That's my lawnmower! |
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That is standard for NJ, and many other parts of the country. The driver was laboring under the delusion that the traffic stop had something to do with safety. The Trooper used everything the driver said, or didn't say, as a pretext to pile on more fines. Most Police officers are probably uncomfortable acting as revenue agents, therefore, use any excuse to justify and rationalize their actions. I grew up in NJ, in and around Homedale, and I can say for sure that the driver got off easy. This is not an endorsement of NJ police. Just an opinion formed by 18 years of experience. |
I don't know where this GD attitude came from that police love writing tickets because it allows for more fines. I don't get more money if I write more tickets. I write tickets based on offenses. |
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I don't disagree with the way he handled things and I think he did a pretty good job keeping his cool. The Troop was not at all interested in taking it further, even though the guy gave him plenty of reason and opportunity to do so. I wouldn't have handled things quite the same way, but I think it's a difference in personality between the two of us. I'm not a fan of talking over somebody and repeating myself to struggle for control of the conversation. He definatley did not do wrong in my eyes though |
That was the best video I have seen in a long time. I would not have acted so nicely. |
Let me get this straight... that was the COP'S lawnmower???? 
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Why does the Massachusetts trooper have a CIB and what appear to be military ribbons on his uniform? The lawnmower video is absolutely the funniest shit I've seen in a long time! |
You do know LEA's are based military type orginizations? He even has sergeants strips. |
Sure, but that's a REAL Combat Infantryman's Badge. A bit different than a paramilitary sergeant stripe. Imagine if he had on a Medal of Honor, or a Ranger tab |
Certain LEA's have MoH and tabs that resemble military. |
Certain LEA's award their own MoH for LEO's who do certain heroric actions. They also have combat type awards for those who have engaged in shootings. ETA: www.governorpress.alabama.gov/pr/pr-2008-04-17-01-honorlawenforcementofficers-photo.asp ETAII: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_law_enforcement_decorations |
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I think that Nazi inspired uniforms are actually rather sharp looking. I wouldn't want to wear one for duty however. A buddy of mine in Germany works for a new (recent in the last few years anyway) security services section there and I cannot pronounce or spell it but the initials are "SS". LOL |
Yeah, except those MA-SP, NJ-SP uniforms pre-date the Nazis................. |
I can't speak for Massachusetts, but some agencies allow officers to wear awards earned during military service. I'd speculate that he earned the CIB somewhere other than Massachusetts. Plus the fact that the white gloves mean he's probably wearing his "Class A" uniform... 
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That's the only thing I could think of that would make sense. I've got no problem if an agency comes up with their own award for on-duty shootings, their own medal of honor or other awards. I don't think it's right to usurp the military awards for their use, seems to pervert them a bit. Just my opinion. |
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I don't really care HOW wrong I think the officer is--I'll NEVER argue the point on the side of the road. As a PD buddy of mine said "I'll always win the argument." If the officer is genuinely wrong in my opinion, I'll talk to the judge about it. Yelling, screaming, and running the risk of getting my ass OC'd Tazered, or smacked down just ain't worth it! My 2 cents... |
Police agencies are full of former military personnel, or current Reserve and Guard members. When LEA's look for ribbons to use on their uniforms, they often use military awards, because they can get them, and they are made to a certain standard. I wouldn't be surprised if the CIB is the MSP's ribbon for their tactical team. We use Presidential Unit Citations for our awards, or similar. One is for Valor, and one is for Life Saving (blue lifesaving, red valor (?) We used to use rank from the Annapolis for some of our ranks. Annapolis stopped us. |
From Wiki Until late 2006, the Medal of Honor was the only service decoration singled out in federal law to protect it from being imitated or privately sold. The Stolen Valor Act of 2005, enacted December 20, 2006, extended some of these protections to other military awards as well.[38] Now, any false verbal, written or physical claim to an award or decoration authorized for wear by authorized military members or veterans is a federal felony. The Medal of Honor on displayAll Medals of Honor are issued in the original only, by the Department of Defense, to a recipient. Misuse of the medal, including unauthorized manufacture or wear, is punishable by fine and imprisonment pursuant to (18 U.S.C. ยง 704(b)), which prescribes a harsher penalty than that for violations concerning other medals.[3] After the Army redesigned its medal in 1903, a patent was issued (United States Patent #D37,236) to legally prevent others from making the medal. When the patent expired, the Federal government enacted a law making it illegal to produce, wear, or distribute the Medal of Honor without proper authority. Violators of this law have been prosecuted. A number of veterans' organizations and private companies devote themselves to exposing those who falsely claim to have received the Medal of Honor.[39] ----------------------------------------------- There is a Law Enforcement Medal of Honor, which was designed by a committee, and doesn't look like a real "Medal Of Honr". Not all agencies use it, it simply "suggested" as a standard. |
I think the north east cops look the best in the country. Very professional looking. Not like the other guys running around in cheap Gall's "tactical" shit. Look like a Cop not a wannabe swat guy. |
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Exactly. Those RISP uniforms all look really sharp until you have to roll around with some fucker in the mud with all that shit on. |